Patsbuses160
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Thought hybrids aren't reliable in Grimsby.
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Stagecoach East Midlands - Fleet and Engineering Updates
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Grimsby never had the hybrids maybe you think of Skegness?
haydezfrfr
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106/107 doesn't have nsa. also the hybrids have the screens but they don't talk
Ferrylift3
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There are 40+ buses in East Mids not fitted, there is no way they will all be replaced in a few days time. Either they are just going to not comply or will probably seek some kind of extension which is pretty bad considering how much time they have had to prepare for it.
Thomas04
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They can’t just “Not Comply” it’s a Legal Government Requirement that they need to be fitted. If they run buses that aren’t fitted with NSAs they can expect fines. So all the buses that haven’t got the screens. Will have to be fitted before they run public services after Oct 1st
Patsbuses160
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Exactly its now a legal requirement and if they don't get it fitted then either an extension or a fine like you mentioned.
I doubt they will be given much of an extension.
Some of the buses already have the screens installed, but the systems are still not enabled, which makes it even more difficult to tell how close they actually are to being fully compliant.
- They are a huge bus company that receives a significant amount of funding, so money should not be a major issue for them.
- They have had 1,278 days to prepare for the deadline.
Some of the buses already have the screens installed, but the systems are still not enabled, which makes it even more difficult to tell how close they actually are to being fully compliant.
Ferrylift3
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Massively, but as others have said Stagecoach is one of the biggest bus companies in the UK and you would expect them to plan a little better.
Patsbuses160
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haydezfrfr
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19210 broke down in lincoln after having to replace 10536 on saturday..
Patsbuses160
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Pyewipecarshed
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It is possible that they have applied for a temporary exemption for the oldest vehicles on the grounds they are scheduled for withdrawal shortly.
They could also restrict non-compliant buses to closed-door school services as these are not covered by the regulations.
I assume Stagecoach nationally had intended to withdraw all the buses that are not fitted by October 2026, but the extraordinary delays in getting new electrics delivered and in particular getting the utility companies to connect the chargers up have scuppered their plans.
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Just to confuse matters 27205 is also tracking as 27205; it passed me on Victoria Street about an hour ago. Looking at Bustimes it's on the 9/10 circuit (actual 27205) and also on the 6/5B (27183)
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Patsbuses160
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Is 27183 our bus?It is possible that they have applied for a temporary exemption for the oldest vehicles on the grounds they are scheduled for withdrawal shortly.
They could also restrict non-compliant buses to closed-door school services as these are not covered by the regulations.
I assume Stagecoach nationally had intended to withdraw all the buses that are not fitted by October 2026, but the extraordinary delays in getting new electrics delivered and in particular getting the utility companies to connect the chargers up have scuppered their plans.
== Doublepost prevention - post automatically merged: ==
Just to confuse matters 27205 is also tracking as 27205; it passed me on Victoria Street about an hour ago. Looking at Bustimes it's on the 9/10 circuit (actual 27205) and also on the 6/5B (27183)
Pyewipecarshed
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I don't know tbh. I know some Enviro 300s are due, but I'm not sure if this one is a permanent transfer or a loan.
27182-86, 27192/3, 27200 are due to be transfered to Grimsby, 24195-200 are moving to Hull, 26256-61, 26264 and 26266/7 are to be sent to Mansfield for the euro6 thing
Zenneth101
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37459 is another one that has recently lost its stripe as well
Thomas04
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Probably a loan as Grimsby is about to be hit by a vehicle shortage on Thursday
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ChrisC
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They have been quite good regular buses on the 141 route over the last 18 months, but I do find the leg room a bit tight on them compared to other buses on the route. I travelled into Nottingham this morning and back this afternoon on 27184 and that was far more comfortable, not just the seats but the space between them.
What buses are likely to be used on the 141 if the MANS go back to Hull?
Incidentally I now know what MANS are, whereas a few months ago I hadn’t a clue.
It will be Euro6 buses so it will be either the 200MMC or the ADL/TransBus enviro 300
Patsbuses160
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Oh no not good but are we expecting 27192/27193 from Hull? And should 19377 and 10916 be out by early October?
Zenneth101
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27197 in the corner: what about meeeee
Seriously tho, why are the E300s deciding to leave Hull again? Is this the next turn in Hulls love-hate relationship with them thats been going on for years where we get rid of some or all, only to regain diff ones again
Pyewipecarshed
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19377 was visible on a pit in the workshop when I passed earlier, it looked like they were busily working on it so shouldn't be long.
Ferrylift3
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Are we sure the 64 plate E300's are Euro 6? I thought they were late Euro 5 which is why they were swapped for MAN's in the first place.
Ferrylift3
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Are we sure the 64 plate E300's are Euro 6? I thought they were late Euro 5 which is why they were swapped for MAN's in the first place.
Ferrylift3
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Pretty sure even the 64 plate ones are Euro 5