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Kumamark

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Southern usually release advanced tickets 12 weeks in advance.

However, they stop abruptly on May 22nd.

Does anyone know why? Are Advanced tickets being phased out ?
 
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Southern usually release advanced tickets 12 weeks in advance.

However, they stop abruptly on May 22nd.

Does anyone know why? Are Advanced tickets being phased out ?
In my experience its common now for Advance tickets to be released less, sometimes far less, than 12 weeks prior now especially where there is a timetable change in-between.

I expect they simply haven't uploaded the next 'block' of dates yet, likely because of the May timetable change and any service alterations that may cause.
 

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I hope that you are right on this. This is very unlike Southern. I’m keeping a close eye, and the closer we get to May 22nd the more concerned I am that they have been removed permanently as part of the fare shake-up.
 

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Greater Anglia, Southeastern, Chiltern, CrossCountry, ScotRail, Avanti (weekends only), EMR (weekends only), Lumo (not sure how they're affected by the TT change though) and GTR are yet to release advance fares post-timetable change. I doubt GTR will be axeing them.

Northern has released for the first week post-change, as have a few others.

 

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I hope that you are right on this. This is very unlike Southern. I’m keeping a close eye, and the closer we get to May 22nd the more concerned I am that they have been removed permanently as part of the fare shake-up.
Nope, that isn't happening. If anything, there will be more Advance tickets.
 

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Nope, that isn't happening. If anything, there will be more Advance tickets.
My hope (albeit futile) is for advances to be available up to the time of departure, but I'm sure that won't happen for a while yet.
 

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I hope that you are right on this. This is very unlike Southern. I’m keeping a close eye, and the closer we get to May 22nd the more concerned I am that they have been removed permanently as part of the fare shake-up.
Removal of advances isn't part of the 'fare shake-up'. In fact the 'shake-up' is rather dull for lack of significant change tbh.
 

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Ok thanks all, will keep a close eye on future tickets and update when/if there is good news!
 

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Greater Anglia, Southeastern, Chiltern, CrossCountry, ScotRail, Avanti (weekends only), EMR (weekends only), Lumo (not sure how they're affected by the TT change though) and GTR are yet to release advance fares post-timetable change. I doubt GTR will be axeing them.

Northern has released for the first week post-change, as have a few others.

Some TOCs are into September
 

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Southern seem to have been introducing more tiers of Advance tickets, some of which are pointless except for the very longest routes, especially when the walk-up tickets can be discounted using a Network Railcard. I wonder if the switch to online/app ticketing has meant more people have discovered Southern's advances, when before the £5 (as it was) advances were more about getting a bit of extra revenue from the very price sensitive.
 

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Southern seem to have been introducing more tiers of Advance tickets, some of which are pointless except for the very longest routes, especially when the walk-up tickets can be discounted using a Network Railcard.
They’re more useful during the peak which Southern (& Thameslink) actually sell Advances during now and have done for some time.

I used a £10 (Railcard-discounted) Advance single on Monday from Brighton to Victoria with Thameslink to East Croydon then Southern onwards, which for getting to London round half eight in the morning is pretty good!
 

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They’re more useful during the peak which Southern (& Thameslink) actually sell Advances during now and have done for some time.

I used a £10 (Railcard-discounted) Advance single on Monday from Brighton to Victoria with Thameslink to East Croydon then Southern onwards, which for getting to London round half eight in the morning is pretty good!
Haven’t seen any advanced tickets for peak travel? Would that only be with certain railcards perhaps ?

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Nope, that isn't happening. If anything, there will be more Advance tickets.
Weekly update - Southern advanced tickets continue to fall off a cliff w/c 23rd May.

Getting concerned the end of cheap travel is nigh….
 

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Haven’t seen any advanced tickets for peak travel? Would that only be with certain railcards perhaps ?
On Mondays and fridays
Weekly update - Southern advanced tickets continue to fall off a cliff w/c 23rd May.

Getting concerned the end of cheap travel is nigh….
As I said, no need to be concerned. They will appear. They are not being abolished.
 

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LNER already had a solution before the industry project kicked off so I think that's just being used. Don't think it can cope with every retailer though
That matches more with what I thought. Sounds like other retailers having the extended horizons isn't anytime soon still then
 
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