TT-ONR-NRN
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Famously dodgy areas, up towards Caerphilly/Pontypridd/Bargoed - the latter in particular has a reputation. The sooner this can be avoided the better.
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anthony263
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Could we not use the 3 carriage class 756 on the cityline between Coryton and Radyr in the shirt term.
TT-ONR-NRN
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To be fair, that route is exactly what the 3 carriage ones were ordered for.
daodao
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Other than at rush hours, a 1 car dmu would suffice for the Coryton branch. At one time, the service was run by bubble cars (class 121).
Dai Corner
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Today it's a single 153 (with the accessible lavatory taking up about a quarter of the space and reducing the seating capacity to less than 60).
Last Hurrah
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Not ideal having a 153 arriving at Ninian Park after a match at the Cardiff City Stadium
Hopefully pre/post match services are something that will be significantly improved when the Metro works are completed
People were actively encouraged to use Grangetown station instead although it is further away
Peter Sarf
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If its like Crystal Palace then Home supporters and Away supporters are encouraged to use different stations so probably both stations.
anthony263
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Good to see progress being made
bradleyd
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My question, I was walking around Pontypridd earlier - I normally walk under the viaducts, but today, I decided to walk through the car park and then over the footbridge to the station, so I saw these structures for the first time (to the north of the station, where the Rhondda line splits from the Merthyr/aberdare lines). Are they purely for carrying wiring from one side of the track to the other, or do they have anything to do with electrification from that point? I have no idea where the electrification is due to start north of the station, which is bad when I live here and use the train to Cardiff and back 3 or 4 times a week,
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59CosG95
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IIRC the OLE north of the station resumes after both viaducts.
The masts here are mainly for cable carrying, and also switching - I think the Track Sectioning Site (TSS) at Pontypridd is going in the delta between the two branches (after the demolition of the old signalbox).
Western 52
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Signal_Box
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Radyr SCC closed at 0030 this morning, control passing to Taff Wells over the weekend.
There is always a retirement.
bradleyd
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What is a track sectioning site?
59CosG95
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Essentially an electronically-operated switching cabin (or similar). Rather than having someone out on site there 24/7, it can be remotely operated from the control centre at Taff's Well.
DaveHarries
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Along with Abercynon PSB although I don't know if that closed at exactly the same time. Signal prefixes for control from Taffs Well (or, according to Philips Deaves' website, the "Core Valley Lines IECC" are VA (former Abercynon PSB signals) and VR (former Valleys Radyr PSB signals).
Having spent much time travelling along it under the Token system over the last 13 years I did send NR an email to ask if it might be possible to get hold of one of each type of token for the Porth - Treherbert line but have had no response. It would be nice to have a souvenir so I hope they will reply. Or will I have to pay their "redundant assets" section a large amount of money that will probably be equal to 50% of my monthly income?
Dave
Dai Corner
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The tokens, along with the rest of the 'core valley lines' belong to the Welsh Government.
Anonymous10
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They may also be offered to museums first, Pembrokeshire museums for instance have some of the redundant tokens, and those things are massive.
59CosG95
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Canton Depot has also had its OLE energised.
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BAM Nuttall installed the wires, Balfour Beatty did the HV power works.
Now we just need that annoying gap between Canton & the limit of wiring between Ninian Park & Waun-gron Park to be closed...
We’ve recently reached a major milestone on the Core Valley Lines Transformation project in South Wales! Canton Rail Depot has been successfully energised, marking the first step of the project’s… | Balfour Beatty plc
We’ve recently reached a major milestone on the Core Valley Lines Transformation project in South Wales! Canton Rail Depot has been successfully energised, marking the first step of the project’s complex energisation sequence as part of a major upgrade to the Core Valleys Lines, a vital part of...
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BAM Nuttall installed the wires, Balfour Beatty did the HV power works.
Now we just need that annoying gap between Canton & the limit of wiring between Ninian Park & Waun-gron Park to be closed...
WesternBiker
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Is it planned to be? (To be honest, I find it hard to remember which bits are being wired and which are not...)Canton Depot has also had its OLE energised.
We’ve recently reached a major milestone on the Core Valley Lines Transformation project in South Wales! Canton Rail Depot has been successfully energised, marking the first step of the project’s… | Balfour Beatty plc
We’ve recently reached a major milestone on the Core Valley Lines Transformation project in South Wales! Canton Rail Depot has been successfully energised, marking the first step of the project’s complex energisation sequence as part of a major upgrade to the Core Valleys Lines, a vital part of...
BAM Nuttall installed the wires, Balfour Beatty did the HV power works.
Now we just need that annoying gap between Canton & the limit of wiring between Ninian Park & Waun-gron Park to be closed...
59CosG95
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Sadly, it isn't, because it's NR-owned infrastructure and the works only cover the TfW-owned infrastructure.
Hopefully they'll remedy that at some point...
WesternBiker
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Thanks for the info. I wasn’t aware the depot was an island of TfW ownership. Hopefully logic will prevail at some point, as you say…
Last Hurrah
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Now we just need that annoying gap between Canton & the limit of wiring between Ninian Park & Waun-gron Park to be closed...
Gap extends from Canton Depot/ Ninian Park station beyond the TFW/CVL Route Boundary (RAD 1m 20ch) to RAD 1m 39ch
Sanatorium Road bridge is RAD 1m 24ch
Bit surprised masts didn’t go to the TFW/CVL Route Boundary - circa another 200 metres or so . . .
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DaveHarries
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Thanks for the clarification. I had thought maintenance was being done by NR or their contractors hence my asking NR.
Dave
Anonymous10
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Could they not just approach Network Rail and basically say we pay for it you make it happen?
Dai Corner
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Yes, they could. But they won't as a matter of principle. Rail infrastructure is not devolved (apart from the core valley lines which were given to the Welsh Government).
krus_aragon
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The Welsh Government have paid them directly for some infrasturcture improvements in the past (from memory, linespeed work around Wrexham, and refurbishing the bay platforms at Wrexham General). But principles can change over time, of course, and paying for piecemeal NR electrification around Cardiff detracts from the argument of getting NR/Westminster to fund electrifying the SWML as a whole.
Markdvdman
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Any picture updates on works going on? I would like to see the new Quakers Yard platform live with the passing loop active as that would be useful now!