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D2022

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I've got problems sleeping at night, my body tends to be more into sleeping from around 6am till lunch which is obviously not good for my work on day shifts. So I've got hold of Palms sleep pills and taken some tonight to see what happens,

Anyone had and good or bad experiences with sleeping pill and what would people recommend?
 
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I found the prescription ones (Zolpidem, Zopiclone etc.) only work for a week or 2 before tolerence sets in which is ok if you only require one now and again.

Personally these days I go by flower power in the form of camomile tea an hour before bed, - the bog standard Tesco stuff is fine at only 99p a box of 40.

Here's and article from the Guardian that has some tips on getting a good nights sleep, which along with peppermint tea is also good fot IBS.
 

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Sleeping pills are reasonably good at sending you to sleep, but they're pretty damn excellent at making you not get up in the morning.

Much better to just tire yourself out naturally. Do something menial or brainless for a while.


(Actually, as an adult male there is something you could do that's pretty good at inducing sleep... I won't go into details for fear of infringing upon anyone's delicate sensibilities but I'm sure you can guess what I'm referring to. ;))
 

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(Actually, as an adult male there is something you could do that's pretty good at inducing sleep... I won't go into details for fear of infringing upon anyone's delicate sensibilities but I'm sure you can guess what I'm referring to. ;))

Is this option also available to those who sleep alone or does it require someone else to turn out the light? ;)
 

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(Actually, as an adult male there is something you could do that's pretty good at inducing sleep... I won't go into details for fear of infringing upon anyone's delicate sensibilities but I'm sure you can guess what I'm referring to. ;))

You mean go to the pub and get drunk, right ?:lol:
 

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Is this option also available to those who sleep alone or does it require someone else to turn out the light? ;)

If you are so tired out from it that you need someone else to turn out the light then you are doing it wrong imo. ;)
 

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(Actually, as an adult male there is something you could do that's pretty good at inducing sleep... I won't go into details for fear of infringing upon anyone's delicate sensibilities but I'm sure you can guess what I'm referring to. ;))

Yeah, watching a few episodes of South Park or Family Guy always helps me wind down.

That's what you meant right?
 

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Sleeping pills are reasonably good at sending you to sleep, but they're pretty damn excellent at making you not get up in the morning.

Much better to just tire yourself out naturally. Do something menial or brainless for a while.


(Actually, as an adult male there is something you could do that's pretty good at inducing sleep... I won't go into details for fear of infringing upon anyone's delicate sensibilities but I'm sure you can guess what I'm referring to. ;))

Try reading a few of my posts on RailUK Forums that does it for most people - especially those related to smoking :p
 

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(Actually, as an adult male there is somat inducing sleep... I won't go into details for fear of infringing upon anyone's delicate sensibilities but I'm sure you can guess what I'm referring to. ;))[/QUOTE]

Funny that, sleep like a log when my other halfs in the same bad....wonder why ;)
 

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... my other halfs in the same bad....wonder why ;)
Sounds exciting (even given your Catholic background);)

Back on topic. I too would avoid sleeping pills as such (except on rare occasions). I have used "Kalms" and had a reasonable night's sleep. But th emost important thing is to allow at least half an hour between being on the computer or watching TV and even starting to try to get to sleep.
 

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Could do with some sleeping pills at the moment. Finding it very hard to adjust to nights.
 

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You mean go to the pub and get drunk, right ?:lol:

As a shift worker for 30+ years, I'll tell you this. Alcohol is a stimulant. It'll keep you awake at night. If you have a problem sleeping either see your doctor or for a short while go to your pharmasist and ask for Nytol Herbal tabs. If after 2-3 days you still have problems sleeping see your GP.

ALCOHOL IS NOT YOUR ANSWER

It never will be. Believe me.
 

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As a shift worker for 30+ years, I'll tell you this. Alcohol is a stimulant. It'll keep you awake at night. If you have a problem sleeping either see your doctor or for a short while go to your pharmasist and ask for Nytol Herbal tabs. If after 2-3 days you still have problems sleeping see your GP.

ALCOHOL IS NOT YOUR ANSWER

It never will be. Believe me.

In case you didn't realise, my post there was sarcastic, hence the fact that I used the laughing thingummy.
 

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You might be interested on a show starting on BBC1 now called 'Goodnight Britain.'
 

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While sleeping pills can be useful for people with severe sleep issues they do come with serious medical consequences including poor quality sleep, daytime drowsiness ( the sleeping pill 'hangover') and addiction. They are thus not suitable for mild or temporary sleeplessness, no one should consider using them for more than 72 hours without medical supervision. Most herbal remedies are not effective (beyond the placebo effect) however some which are effective also carry the same negative consequences of the non-herbal one.

If the issues is simply one of sleeping atthe wrong time of day that is behavioural. The best remedy is to set a fixed time you want to get up, and then stick to it 7 days a week year round. As long as you goto bed at a suitable hour to match your getup time, your sleep will reset in a few days, albiet the first few my be difficult and you may feel a bit wabbit.

Urrent thinking as supported by sleep studies is that a regular wake-up time is the key to healthy sleep payters in people who otherwise find it problematic.

Unfortunately some people are incapable of sleeping well if the work shifts and can suffer serious medical issues if they persist (Shift Sleep Disorder)
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Funny that, sleep like a log when my other halfs in the same bad....wonder why

This is very common, your brain has learned to associate the presence of your partner with sleep.
 
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You might be interested on a show starting on BBC1 now called 'Goodnight Britain.'

I just did. It turns out I'm remarkably like the cake-baking woman, only I sleep a full eight hours once I'm off. Unfortunately, I also get most of my best work done around this time. It's easier to write in the dead of night, probably because it's quieter.

However, I'm not sure it's really a problem. If I was after a regular job, I would try for shift work. It's only a problem when I have to do something during the day for some reason. If that happens, I tend to take melatonin, which can be quite helpful provided I don't take it too often.

It's also a social thing. Reading the Apollo Flight Journal recently, I noticed that on Apollo 8, where they tried to ensure that there was always someone awake in case something went wrong, all three astronauts were sleep-deprived because that kept the other two awake as well. They decided to build in rest periods for everyone at the same time for the other flights, which resolved the problem.
 

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I have a sleep problem, in that I have a lot of trouble getting to sleep, although once I'm asleep I stay that way for hours, but unfortunately I have a 7.30am start tomorrow, and worrying about not waking up on time makes me nervous - a real catch 22 situation!

Suffice to say I'm not going to get enough sleep tonight.
 

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I have a sleep problem, in that I have a lot of trouble getting to sleep, although once I'm asleep I stay that way for hours, but unfortunately I have a 7.30am start tomorrow, and worrying about not waking up on time makes me nervous - a real catch 22 situation!

Suffice to say I'm not going to get enough sleep tonight.

I get that - think everyone does it's a real pain!

I incidentally if you are finding it hard to get to sleep but feel alert and refreshed most days you probably just don't need as much sleep as you think - everybody's sleep needs are different.
 

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I have a sleep problem, in that I have a lot of trouble getting to sleep, although once I'm asleep I stay that way for hours, but unfortunately I have a 7.30am start tomorrow, and worrying about not waking up on time makes me nervous - a real catch 22 situation!

Suffice to say I'm not going to get enough sleep tonight.

0730, that's a lie-in! ;)
 
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