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I've never tried a safety razor, being far too scared of them, but I'm intrigued by the claim that they're massively cheaper than "ordinary" razors. The blades I use from Wilko cost 60p each, the packet of safety blades they sell work out as 40p each. I'll generally use a blade for up to a fortnight or so, while people have suggested using a fresh safety blade for every shave...
Aren't all razors safety razors unless cut throat type?
 
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Something else to consider and again; this is personal experience. The other week I had a full beard. The shavette does something I have never experienced with any other razor. it goes through a full beard with zero trouble. No clogging or need to hack away first, just a good lather and it was down to the skin in a single swish.

Shaving is a very personal experience my change to a shavette was because I was bought one for Fathers day. I hated shaving, hated paying the Gillette prices or a cheap shave that sliced my face apart. Now I truly enjoy it.
A traditional straight blade is much the same. In fact I find that it gives a better shave if the bristles are a little longer. As I only shave my cheeks and neck it doesn't matter so much if I let stubble build up for an extra day.

The big thing is getting a good lather. Using a bowl to work up a lather makes a big difference.
 

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Bic razors and Gillette gel. I've used this combination for years now and am too old to bother changing.
 

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Bic razors and Gillette gel. I've used this combination for years now and am too old to bother changing.

If Bic razors work for you then stick with them. In a way I'm jealous. I don't suffer particularly from cuts and nicks but I do quite quickly develop red and irritated skin over the course of a shaving week. Switching to double edge razors with decent blades has certainly helped with that.
 
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If Bic razors work for you then stick with them. In a way I'm jealous. I don't suffer particularly from cuts and nicks but I do quite quickly develop red and irritated skin over the course of a shaving week. Switching to double edge razors with decent blades has certainly helped with that.

I do get a few cuts but in my youth tried other (more expensive) razors and found it no different, so might as well stick to the cheap and cheerful option. Have also tried electric in the past but found it took too long.
 

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I an electric man myself, currently using a relatively cheap Li-On Panasonic unit but have used Braun units in the past plus a short stint with an AA battery Philips unit.
Like being able to shave anywhere and the comfort of shaving when I haven't shaved for a while.
Also like the infrequent blade changes
I will say I didn't like the Philips too much as it sort of pulls the hairs to help shave closer so can hurt a bit if you haven't shaved for a few days and also didn't like the cleaning system for my S3 Braun as not liking the smell of alcohol (the cleaning solution uses alcohol) isn't good when the shaver goes close to the nose.
 

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I an electric man myself, currently using a relatively cheap Li-On Panasonic unit but have used Braun units in the past plus a short stint with an AA battery Philips unit.
Like being able to shave anywhere and the comfort of shaving when I haven't shaved for a while.

I'm a bit surprised by that comment - shaving with an electric when you haven't shaved for a while is in my experience one of two things - completely pointless or highly painful as it pulls all the hairs. Whereas a double-edged safety razor (or a cut-throat, if you prefer) will go through a full beard in one go with ease.
 

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I'm a bit surprised by that comment - shaving with an electric when you haven't shaved for a while is in my experience one of two things - completely pointless or highly painful as it pulls all the hairs. Whereas a double-edged safety razor (or a cut-throat, if you prefer) will go through a full beard in one go with ease.

Mine has a built in beard trimmer so I naturally use that first to get the bulk of the hair off then use the normal shaving head, plus it's near impossible to cut yourself.
 

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I've never tried a safety razor, being far too scared of them, but I'm intrigued by the claim that they're massively cheaper than "ordinary" razors. The blades I use from Wilko cost 60p each, the packet of safety blades they sell work out as 40p each. I'll generally use a blade for up to a fortnight or so, while people have suggested using a fresh safety blade for every shave...
I've just taken delivery of 100 Voskhod Teflon coated blades for £9.70. Each lasts for at least 3 shaves for me, so about 3.5p per shave. Even if I used them only once it's less than 10p.
Aren't all razors safety razors unless cut throat type?
Technically yes. The cartridge types were an evolution of the DE safety razor.
 

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I'm a bit surprised by that comment - shaving with an electric when you haven't shaved for a while is in my experience one of two things - completely pointless or highly painful as it pulls all the hairs. Whereas a double-edged safety razor (or a cut-throat, if you prefer) will go through a full beard in one go with ease.
Think it depends on the individual. My experience is the same as yours. I have a lot of very thick follicles. I've got 6 o'clock shadow even when I'm baby bum smooth directly after shaving. Hairdressers always commenting on the volume of hair on my head.
 

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Where are we talking about?

Had my neckline lasered a few years back.
My ears are usually waxed by a Turkish barber when needed.
Below the neck is either waxed or clippered depending on time of year. There's no way a cutthroat is going near by baw sack.
For face it's a Philips one blade -the heads last about 6 months.
 

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I'm also an electric man and have never made the switch to manual. After a couple of unsuccessful goes in my late teens, tearing my face to ribbons each time, I swore never again.

Mine's a fairly cheap Philips shaver bought for about $25 in Florida three years ago. It does the job, the shave is close enough and it never cuts the skin which is good enough for me. There is usually some mild neck irritation afterwards, but nothing a slap or two of after shave can't sort.

As for shaving with an electric for the first time in a while, that's what the trimmer on the side of the shaver is for. Very little, if any pain in my experience.
 

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Anything is cheaper than a Mach3.
Good blade but very expensive, I switched to DE and straight blade shaving after being persuaded to visit a traditional barber in London, Trumpher's is one of the big 3 Ts oldest barbers the other two are Truffitt & Hill "oldest barber in operation" and Taylor's of Old Bond St.

I was given the full works hot towel, lather, shave and cold towel with a face massage, certainly got pampered, I was hooked and brought loads of shaving soaps, traditional aftershave and cologne, worked out a lot cheaper than Mach3, ended up going down the rabbit hole And brought loads vintage shaving soaps and aftershave, the oldest dated from 1935, I have several Old Spice shaving soaps from the 70s and I use one of the them as part of my rotation.
Razor blades from Dovo, Feathers, Rapira, Personna and of course Derby extra, D R Harris is also another source of shaving stuff.
I've got enough to last me a few years and saving money.

Whenever I visit London I like to treat myself to a posh shave, it's not cheap but it's a treat for me to experience traditional shaving with all the works.
 

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I use a single edge razor, slightly more skill needed than a Gillette etc, but it doesn't irritate my skin, and it's much cheaper. When shaving in a shared bathroom people often assume it's a cut throat!
 

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I'm also an electric man and have never made the switch to manual. After a couple of unsuccessful goes in my late teens, tearing my face to ribbons each time, I swore never again.

Mine's a fairly cheap Philips shaver bought for about $25 in Florida three years ago. It does the job, the shave is close enough and it never cuts the skin which is good enough for me. There is usually some mild neck irritation afterwards, but nothing a slap or two of after shave can't sort.

As for shaving with an electric for the first time in a while, that's what the trimmer on the side of the shaver is for. Very little, if any pain in my experience.

I wonder if there are different ways peoples' hairs lie, which might make some people get a better shave with an electric than others? I guess the ideal for an electric is the hairs standing up on end, basically? They really don't work for me and I've tried different types, both cheap and expensive. Or maybe I should just give up and grow a beard like just about every bloke seems to at the moment, though I don't think one suits my facial shape (I've sort of had one by just being too lazy to shave for a week or so)...not to mention that unlike my head hair it's mostly grey!
 

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I wonder if there are different ways peoples' hairs lie, which might make some people get a better shave with an electric than others? I guess the ideal for an electric is the hairs standing up on end, basically? They really don't work for me and I've tried different types, both cheap and expensive. Or maybe I should just give up and grow a beard like just about every bloke seems to at the moment, though I don't think one suits my facial shape (I've sort of had one by just being too lazy to shave for a week or so)...not to mention that unlike my head hair it's mostly grey!

With me it's the case that the hair on my cheeks almost all grows in the same direction (down towards my jaw bone) whereas the hair on my neck doesn't have quite the same uniformity. That makes the "shave with the grain" recommendation difficult.
 

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I dry shave with a Gillette Fusion razor, I get a closer shave than when I used to use gel or foam and it doesn't cause any irritation or soreness. Supposedly this should dry out your skin but that hasn't happened either.
 

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I dry shave with a Gillette Fusion razor, I get a closer shave than when I used to use gel or foam and it doesn't cause any irritation or soreness.
o_O EEEK. I was always taught that's one of two things that you never do without sufficient lubrication if you intend to be popular with the ladies!

The other, of course, being massage.
 

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o_O EEEK. I was always taught that's one of two things that you never do without sufficient lubrication if you intend to be popular with the ladies!

:lol: :lol: Never heard that one before.

My GF didn't actually noticed I'd stopped using shaving gel until I happened to mention it a couple of months later. The reason I stopped was one time I stayed in a hotel for a couple of nights on business, I packed my razor but stupidly forgot to pack the gel so had no choice but to dry shave. Maybe if you have sensitive skin it's worth using foam or gel but for me it just seems pointless.
 

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:lol: :lol: Never heard that one before.

My GF didn't actually noticed I'd stopped using shaving gel until I happened to mention it a couple of months later. The reason I stopped was one time I stayed in a hotel for a couple of nights on business, I packed my razor but stupidly forgot to pack the gel so had no choice but to dry shave. Maybe if you have sensitive skin it's worth using foam or gel but for me it just seems pointless.
It may be the nature of Black (race) beards, but I definitely can't shave dry - the razor bumps would be ten times worse than they are when I use a gel or foam.
 

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It may be the nature of Black (race) beards, but I definitely can't shave dry - the razor bumps would be ten times worse than they are when I use a gel or foam.

No, it's definitely not race-related, I'm white and if I dry-shaved with a conventional razor of any kind I'd have no face left, and it would actually be painful.

I suspect people who can dry-shave have naturally slightly oily skin, which would act similarly to the shaving oils you can buy (which I find work quite well).
 

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No, it's definitely not race-related, I'm white and if I dry-shaved with a conventional razor of any kind I'd have no face left, and it would actually be painful.
Oh, I can get a super smooth dry shave. But I'll pay for it in a day or two when the hair starts ingrowing and the razor bumps start showing.
 

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It may be the nature of Black (race) beards, but I definitely can't shave dry - the razor bumps would be ten times worse than they are when I use a gel or foam.
No, it's definitely not race-related, I'm white and if I dry-shaved with a conventional razor of any kind I'd have no face left, and it would actually be painful.
Same here. In fact if I attempt to dry shave it just tugs and won't even cut through the stubble.
I suspect people who can dry-shave have naturally slightly oily skin, which would act similarly to the shaving oils you can buy (which I find work quite well).
Well I have quite oily skin so I don't think it's that. Possibly more to do with the density and thickness of follicles.
Or just a very high pain tolerance!

Now got my safety razor technique pretty well honed. Can usually manage a 3 pass baby bum smooth shave with no nicks or cuts, apart from an annoying raised mole that I sometimes slice the top off. Not a hint of razor burn nor any neck irritation which I've just lived with for 20 years, believing it to be a fact of life.
 

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Same here. In fact if I attempt to dry shave it just tugs and won't even cut through the stubble.

Well I have quite oily skin so I don't think it's that. Possibly more to do with the density and thickness of follicles.
Or just a very high pain tolerance!

Now got my safety razor technique pretty well honed. Can usually manage a 3 pass baby bum smooth shave with no nicks or cuts, apart from an annoying raised mole that I sometimes slice the top off. Not a hint of razor burn nor any neck irritation which I've just lived with for 20 years, believing it to be a fact of life.

My skin's probably slightly more oily than average but not massively so. Only other factor I can think of which might make a different is my facial hair is quite slow growing, I last shaved on Saturday morning and my stubble atm is more like the amount a lot of men would see after 24 hours.
 

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My skin's probably slightly more oily than average but not massively so. Only other factor I can think of which might make a different is my facial hair is quite slow growing, I last shaved on Saturday morning and my stubble atm is more like the amount a lot of men would see after 24 hours.
An advantage of advancing age is that I can go longer before the now pale grey beard notices
 
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