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[tfw756rider]

Or a press release, or a news story? It seems to have been kept very well under wraps.

It's good that we can now see it at present.

 

[chrisjo]

It's good that we can now see it at present.

aaaargggh!

 

[MerlinRail 804]

Somewhat related as it's Electrostars, but do you think we'll be seeing the new C2C livery appear on the correct 357s soon on RTT?

Sorry to continue the ambush, but on a similar note, are there plans to put the new Chiltern livery on for the relevant 168s, and also graphics for the Mk5s when they enter service?

 

[LA50041]

Probably a bit of an ask, but is there any plans/opportunities within the paid RTT+ to enable the ability to search prior/future calling points more than 24 hours in the past?
Subscribed to RTT+ and it looks to be decent product

 

[centraluser]

Sorry to continue the ambush, but on a similar note, are there plans to put the new Chiltern livery on for the relevant 168s, and also graphics for the Mk5s when they enter service?

Ref the 168s, in due course. Ref the Mark 5As, yes, just waiting on images to ask TC.

 

[tfw756rider]

810 graphics?

 

[liamf656]

810 graphics?

Surprised it took this long to get a mention! It would be nice to have 222104 back too as it hasn't had a graphic since it became a 5 car set. Splitting hairs I know!

 

[TT-ONR-NRN]

Surprised it took this long to get a mention! It would be nice to have 222104 back too as it hasn't had a graphic since it became a 5 car set. Splitting hairs I know!

I personally feel as though only once the large fleets that are wrong/bugged (387/375) and missing (376, 46x, 777, etc.) we should be concerned about temp liveries and single unit exceptions within a class, surely?

 

[tfw756rider]

I personally feel as though only once the large fleets that are wrong/bugged (387/375) and missing (376, 46x, 777, etc.) we should be concerned about temp liveries and single unit exceptions within a class, surely?

Did you mean something different than 46x as I'm not aware of any such classes currently (and only 460 formerly)?

 

[TT-ONR-NRN]

Did you mean something different than 46x as I'm not aware of any such classes currently (and only 460 formerly)?

No I didn't. The Southeastern 465s and 466s (and 376s as mentioned, plus most 375s due to a strange bug) do not have images.

 

[tfw756rider]

No I didn't. The Southeastern 465s and 466s (and 376s as mentioned, plus most 375s due to a strange bug) do not have images.

I know, thanks - sometimes classes disappear from my mind (in this case the 465s and 466s), but I remembered them right after I posted.

 

[liamf656]

I personally feel as though only once the large fleets that are wrong/bugged (387/375) and missing (376, 46x, 777, etc.) we should be concerned about temp liveries and single unit exceptions within a class, surely?

I know, my comment was more tongue in cheek knowing that there are bigger priorities! That said I think an 810 graphic will look quite nice

 

[_toommm_]

A bit of a weird bug for today - all Northern services between Leeds and Skipton only (and vice versa) are showing as TOC code ZZ, but still showing allocations. An example:

Realtime Trains | 2H21 0744 Skipton to Leeds | 12/12/2025

Real-time train running information for 2H21 0744 departure from Skipton to Leeds on 12/12/2025. From Realtime Trains, an independent source of train running info for Great Britain.

www.realtimetrains.co.uk

 

[Tom]

It's a problem in an industry system and Network Rail are investigating.

 

[benk1342]

I have a bit of a feature request if I may?

Would it be possible to have when filtering stations some facility to have multiple stations within the filter? For instance, if at Sunderland and looking at trains towards Newcastle on a random Wednesday between 1200 and 1300 in a few months you might put the location as Sunderland then filter by calling point for subsequently to be Newcastle. That would show you one Northern service at 1231. But that misses the bulk of the service. If you refilter for Newcastle (Metro) that reveals the six Tyne and Wear Metro services that run in that same hour but excludes the Northern service.

It would therefore be nice if you could filter the subsequent on a "Calls at X or Y" basis as that would easily allow you to see both sets of services at somewhere like Sunderland.

This would also be really useful for trains toward London which call at King’s Cross OR St Pancras - i.e. so one could see just the southbound services from e.g. Stevenage.

 

[Paul AC]

Amplifying the above feature request, maybe there could be some form of "station group" that could be searched against in the Location box (and ideally the calling previously and subsequently boxes). A common one I use is Wigan, North Western and Wallgate. When looking at whether there's a good connection between the two, it's a pain having to do one search to check how the first train is running, then change the search (and remember the likely timings) for the second part of the journey.

It might have been mentioned previously, but it would be nice if "off route" data could be included within a train's timings where relevant, for when trains are diverted off their normal route. Example, the other day my TPE 397 from Manchester to Preston was diverted via Chat Moss instead of via Bolton due to a signal fault near the latter; but my colleague, using RTT to see where I was, thought I was still stuck at Ordsall Lane Jn when I was nearly at Preston. It must be feasible, as "Railcam" can do this (note I subscribe to both Railcam and RTT+ and am likely to continue to do so for the foreseeable).

 

[milooo]

I never knew this existed
(Notice warning popularity of flying Scotsman and to not trespass to see the loco and to stay clear of the line)

 

[gabrielhj07]

I never knew this existed
(Notice warning popularity of flying Scotsman and to not trespass to see the loco and to stay clear of the line)

Yes, there is usually a high degree of nonsense when the FS is out and about.

 

[Tom]

Sorry to continue the ambush, but on a similar note, are there plans to put the new Chiltern livery on for the relevant 168s, and also graphics for the Mk5s when they enter service?

Yes, in due course.

Probably a bit of an ask, but is there any plans/opportunities within the paid RTT+ to enable the ability to search prior/future calling points more than 24 hours in the past?
Subscribed to RTT+ and it looks to be decent product

Yes, I am working on a set of fixes - the only catch is that this fix at the moment only runs on the archive server (e.g. 4 months - 5 years back). We'll push it live once we have it working on the history server too.

810 graphics?

Will be out this week together with a load of updates which will also fix:

I personally feel as though only once the large fleets that are wrong/bugged (387/375) and missing (376, 46x, 777, etc.) we should be concerned about temp liveries and single unit exceptions within a class, surely?

No I didn't. The Southeastern 465s and 466s (and 376s as mentioned, plus most 375s due to a strange bug) do not have images.

I know, thanks - sometimes classes disappear from my mind (in this case the 465s and 466s), but I remembered them right after I posted.

... and now fixing my quoting order ...

I have a bit of a feature request if I may?

Would it be possible to have when filtering stations some facility to have multiple stations within the filter? For instance, if at Sunderland and looking at trains towards Newcastle on a random Wednesday between 1200 and 1300 in a few months you might put the location as Sunderland then filter by calling point for subsequently to be Newcastle. That would show you one Northern service at 1231. But that misses the bulk of the service. If you refilter for Newcastle (Metro) that reveals the six Tyne and Wear Metro services that run in that same hour but excludes the Northern service.

It would therefore be nice if you could filter the subsequent on a "Calls at X or Y" basis as that would easily allow you to see both sets of services at somewhere like Sunderland.

This would also be really useful for trains toward London which call at King’s Cross OR St Pancras - i.e. so one could see just the southbound services from e.g. Stevenage.

Amplifying the above feature request, maybe there could be some form of "station group" that could be searched against in the Location box (and ideally the calling previously and subsequently boxes). A common one I use is Wigan, North Western and Wallgate. When looking at whether there's a good connection between the two, it's a pain having to do one search to check how the first train is running, then change the search (and remember the likely timings) for the second part of the journey.

We are looking at options for doing this, the technical side is easy - the UI side is ... not.

It might have been mentioned previously, but it would be nice if "off route" data could be included within a train's timings where relevant, for when trains are diverted off their normal route. Example, the other day my TPE 397 from Manchester to Preston was diverted via Chat Moss instead of via Bolton due to a signal fault near the latter; but my colleague, using RTT to see where I was, thought I was still stuck at Ordsall Lane Jn when I was nearly at Preston. It must be feasible, as "Railcam" can do this (note I subscribe to both Railcam and RTT+ and am likely to continue to do so for the foreseeable).

This is currently planned to be released soon.

I never knew this existed
(Notice warning popularity of flying Scotsman and to not trespass to see the loco and to stay clear of the line)

We have had safety messaging for railtours operated by certain vehicles for quite some time in agreement with NR, BTP and charter promoters.

 

[ainsworth74]

We are looking at options for doing this, the technical side is easy - the UI side is ... not.

Perfect thanks and fingers crossed you can come up with a good UI fix

 

[ABB125]

Sort of related to having multiple "calls subsequently" stations etc, would it be possible to have a "terminate here" option (and starts here too)? At terminal stations with highly variable stopping patterns or routes (eg: Euston, Victoria) it's essentially impossible to see a list of "all departing services" or similar (unless I've missed it!)

 

[pdeaves]

In my perfect world where everything is easy (!), I would love a filter for 'terminates here'/'starts here', please. Or is that already possible?

Like ABB125 just said. What was the chance of me writing the same thing at the same time?

 

[Peter749]

This would also be really useful for trains toward London which call at King’s Cross OR St Pancras - i.e. so one could see just the southbound services from e.g. Stevenage.

If you selected Stevenage and Finsbury Park it would show trains to both Kings Cross and St Pancras.

Realtime Trains | Live Departures from Stevenage

Live train information at Stevenage. From Realtime Trains, an independent source of train running info for Great Britain.

www.realtimetrains.co.uk

 

[tfw756rider]

Nice one @Tom Can the Great Western Railway 175s (entry-to-service of which has started) be made to have graphics? They're still in red and white, so can't the existing graphics just be used for them?

For example, this schedule shows "Operated with 175001" but doesn't show the graphics:

Realtime Trains | 2C26 1340 Plymouth to Penzance | 17/12/2025

Real-time train running information for 2C26 1340 departure from Plymouth to Penzance on 17/12/2025. From Realtime Trains, an independent source of train running info for Great Britain.

www.realtimetrains.co.uk

 

[liamf656]

Nice one @Tom Can the Great Western Railway 175s (entry-to-service of which has started) be made to have graphics? They're still in red and white, so can't the existing graphics just be used for them?

For example, this schedule shows "Operated with 175001" but doesn't show the graphics:

Realtime Trains | 2C26 1340 Plymouth to Penzance | 17/12/2025

Real-time train running information for 2C26 1340 departure from Plymouth to Penzance on 17/12/2025. From Realtime Trains, an independent source of train running info for Great Britain.

www.realtimetrains.co.uk

It's probably already on the very long to-do list.

 

[benk1342]

If you selected Stevenage and Finsbury Park it would show trains to both Kings Cross and St Pancras.

https://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/search/detailed/gb-nr:sVG/to/gb-nr:FPK?stp=WVS&show=all&order=wtt

Sure though presumably that would exclude any trains that don’t stop at Finsbury Park (as some don’t in the peak)? Or can you set it to treat it as a ”via”?

 

[DelW]

Sure though presumably that would exclude any trains that don’t stop at Finsbury Park (as some don’t in the peak)? Or can you set it to treat it as a ”via”?

Setting "service type" to "all services" (which I think is the default) should show services which pass as well as those which call.

 

[benk1342]

Setting "service type" to "all services" (which I think is the default) should show services which pass as well as those which call.

Ah great thanks I’ll try that!

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Setting "service type" to "all services" (which I think is the default) should show services which pass as well as those which call.

Ah great thanks I’ll try that!

 

[HST125Scorton]

Has anyone noticed that RTT seems a little slow when loading up pages? Take for example: Crewe on 20/12/2025 with All Day selected. Seems to take around 30sec-1min to load up. It could just be my end?.

 

[Wandering Pom]

I suspect it's just your end: I've just tried it, and it was around 3 seconds for me (on a laptop with broadband connection).