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Probably a staff taxi pick up point. Loads of taxis are used to ferry train crew around.
For whatever reason someone's probably pushed the wrong button making this visible
 
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tfw756rider said:
I'm getting this "Authentication Required" page right now instead of a train service page I was on. I'm guessing it's an overnight maintenance thing, but not explicitly stated as such?
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I think it’s because now you need to register for an account to access cert pages now.
 
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Is there a reason RTT seems to have stopped filtering correctly?

Looking at MKC today for AWC services that subsequently called at Birmingham New St - 0730 to 1030

Realtime Trains | Departures from Milton Keynes Central between 0730 and 1030 on 13/11/2025

Train information at Milton Keynes Central between 0730 and 1030 on 13/11/2025. From Realtime Trains, an independent source of train running info for Great Britain.
www.realtimetrains.co.uk www.realtimetrains.co.uk

14 trains are shown but 5 are southbound services that previously called at BHM

Thanks
 
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Peter749 said:
Is there a reason RTT seems to have stopped filtering correctly?

Looking at MKC today for AWC services that subsequently called at Birmingham New St - 0730 to 1030

Realtime Trains | Departures from Milton Keynes Central between 0730 and 1030 on 13/11/2025

Train information at Milton Keynes Central between 0730 and 1030 on 13/11/2025. From Realtime Trains, an independent source of train running info for Great Britain.
www.realtimetrains.co.uk www.realtimetrains.co.uk

14 trains are shown but 5 are southbound services that previously called at BHM

Thanks
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Also similar issues elsewhere (see my post 2814 where Didcot westbound also shows an eastbound).
 
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Peter749 said:
Is there a reason RTT seems to have stopped filtering correctly?

Looking at MKC today for AWC services that subsequently called at Birmingham New St - 0730 to 1030

Realtime Trains | Departures from Milton Keynes Central between 0730 and 1030 on 13/11/2025

Train information at Milton Keynes Central between 0730 and 1030 on 13/11/2025. From Realtime Trains, an independent source of train running info for Great Britain.
www.realtimetrains.co.uk www.realtimetrains.co.uk

14 trains are shown but 5 are southbound services that previously called at BHM

Thanks
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pdeaves said:
Also similar issues elsewhere (see my post 2814 where Didcot westbound also shows an eastbound).
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See also #1391 from 3 years ago :)
pelli said:
I think it's a bug, and the cause appears to be that if the train doesn't stop at the current station then the current station is incorrectly believed to first in the running order of the train - maybe the code is meant to look up the position of the current station in the running order but incorrectly concludes it to be the first position, which is then used in comparing with the position of the filtering point.

For example, at Stevenage (where non-stop trains originate from King's Cross (KGX) northbound and terminate at KGX southbound):
1. As you say, filtering for subsequent calls at Peterborough (PBO) results in all non-stop trains that call at PBO in any direction. (Every non-stop train that calls at PBO satisfies the incorrect criterion to have a call at PBO at any point after the first position in the running order.)
2. Filtering for previous calls at PBO (or indeed any other station) results in no non-stop trains at all. (No train has a call at PBO, or any other station, before the first position in the running order.)
3. Filtering for subsequent calls at King's Cross (KGX), which is a terminus, "correctly" results in southbound trains only. (Northbound trains start at KGX so do not have a call at KGX at any point after the first position in the running order.)
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A bit worrying when I was seated in the middle coach of this one this morning:
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But it was just a TfW internet glitch and resolved itself soon after!
 
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Just back from holiday so catching up...

TT-ONR-NRN said:
Strangely enough the 375 little image only shows up for some trains - mainly /6s I’ve noticed!
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I think this was a typo in some configs before I went away and I'm the only one of the team that really understands trains enough so it'll get sorted this week.

Farigiraf said:
I wonder if it would be possible to implement a feature that allows you to filter for trains by platform? Would be helpful for seeing specific services out of a junction station, for example. Could be a subscription feature.
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This is something we have had requested for some time and I have been resistant to it as it is normally a request by TOC staff. I'll investigate the options of doing this now in RTT+ world.

tfw756rider said:
Also, to hide timetabled bus services that are on the "train" schedule system (for the purpose of them accepting train tickets for "bus+train" journeys).

Aberystwyth for example, I'd just like to see the trains to Shrewsbury/Birmingham (and Machynlleth in the evening), not have about two thirds of the page taken up by the T1 (Carmarthen) and T2 (Bangor etc.) buses.

I do still very much appreciate Realtime Trains of course.
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Falcon1200 said:
And the same for ship connections please; A different Operator code from the TOC at the station would solve that.
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I think I'm leaning towards an option that would just allow splitting them out into separate lists. We won't however just arbitrarily change underlying data.

Peter749 said:
Is there a reason RTT seems to have stopped filtering correctly?

Looking at MKC today for AWC services that subsequently called at Birmingham New St - 0730 to 1030

Realtime Trains | Departures from Milton Keynes Central between 0730 and 1030 on 13/11/2025

Train information at Milton Keynes Central between 0730 and 1030 on 13/11/2025. From Realtime Trains, an independent source of train running info for Great Britain.
www.realtimetrains.co.uk www.realtimetrains.co.uk

14 trains are shown but 5 are southbound services that previously called at BHM
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Long standing bug that while @pelli isn't far off the underlying cause it oddly isn't as simple a fix as it seems.
 
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Any chance of this a feature in the future @Tom? :)

ainsworth74 said:
I have a bit of a feature request if I may?

Would it be possible to have when filtering stations some facility to have multiple stations within the filter? For instance, if at Sunderland and looking at trains towards Newcastle on a random Wednesday between 1200 and 1300 in a few months you might put the location as Sunderland then filter by calling point for subsequently to be Newcastle. That would show you one Northern service at 1231. But that misses the bulk of the service. If you refilter for Newcastle (Metro) that reveals the six Tyne and Wear Metro services that run in that same hour but excludes the Northern service.

It would therefore be nice if you could filter the subsequent on a "Calls at X or Y" basis as that would easily allow you to see both sets of services at somewhere like Sunderland.
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D6700 said:
York to Manchester is similar, as is Edinburgh to Glasgow. I'd expect there will be plenty of other examples, too, especially around London. I guess one way around it could be to create station groups, which appears to be how planning software gets around it.
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Is RTT ready for the (supposed) introduction of the class 810s into passenger service on the MML tomorrow? i.e. will we see the graphics?
 
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duffield said:
Is RTT ready for the (supposed) introduction of the class 810s into passenger service on the MML tomorrow? i.e. will we see the graphics?
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The training runs have had allocations for a while, without graphics. Hopefully we do see them fairly soon along with updated 360s
 
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I just realised today that the graphics for the 387/1 units is incorrect and it shows them as 387/3 units. In real life the 387/1 have green doors and the 387/3 have blue doors but on RTT it shows both types with blue doors. It would be great if this could get corrected.
 
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I'm well aware this isn't a huge deal, but worth pointing out - all Southern and Great Northern 387/1s (387101-130) have green doors.

However, the picture currently shows them with blue doors as per the six 387/3s formerly with c2c.
 
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There is also a special Christmas livery on 387 216 now. It would be nice to see a graphic for that on RTT if possible. Although it is only a temporary livery that will probably be removed in January so it might not be worth it unless a graphic can be easily created.
 
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We'll correct the white 387/1s at some point. The colour of the doors are, in the grand scheme of things, not that significant. We almost certainly won't bother with 387216 but I'm trying to get an official line on when that will revert.
 
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stadler said:
There is also a special Christmas livery on 387 216 now. It would be nice to see a graphic for that on RTT if possible. Although it is only a temporary livery that will probably be removed in January so it might not be worth it unless a graphic can be easily created.
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@stadler

Hello

Are there any pictures or video of this Christmas livery at all ?

Would like to see it.

Thank you

Dave
 
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Photo attached . Pretty sure there was another short lived one like this a few months back for another purpose. It berths in platform 8 at Brighton for some grotto. Obviously the grotto inside (if you zoom in) would need removing prior to entry into service and therefore I wouldn't be surprised if the livery did as well
 

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Tom said:
We'll correct the white 387/1s at some point. The colour of the doors are, in the grand scheme of things, not that significant. We almost certainly won't bother with 387216 but I'm trying to get an official line on when that will revert.
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Somewhat related as it's Electrostars, but do you think we'll be seeing the new C2C livery appear on the correct 357s soon on RTT?
 
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trainmania100 said:
Photo attached . Pretty sure there was another short lived one like this a few months back for another purpose. It berths in platform 8 at Brighton for some grotto. Obviously the grotto inside (if you zoom in) would need removing prior to entry into service and therefore I wouldn't be surprised if the livery did as well
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@trainmania100

Thank you

Dave

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pdeaves said:
There's several photos on https://www.railforums.co.uk/threads/notable-advertising-liveries.294137/page-2#post-7570942
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Thank you

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