Railway Myths (2013)

[Muzer]

Incidentally, why is section 2 of HS1 so much slower than section 1? I'd never noticed this before. Is it just something to do with tighter curves coming towards London, etc.?

 

[SuffolkRaider]

Happy thought ??? The idea of HS2 fills me with a good feeling(sic) knowing someone somewhere has reached Birmingham 30 secs sooner and travelled 4 inches shorter while I walk to work in Beccles (apparently we have trains and electric light !!)

 

[Clip]

No. The price of the ticket includes everything you must pay in order to obtain the ticket that you would not pay if you did not buy it. Calling part of the price a booking fee does not mean you can advertise or suggest prices exclude it.

Barring any toc discounts through buying direct from them, you purchase the same AP ticket for the same journey from TTL or another website then the price on the ticket will be the same.

The same as cheap flights, the price is the price and anything else including a booking fee is supplementary.

 

[island]

Barring any toc discounts through buying direct from them, you purchase the same AP ticket for the same journey from TTL or another website then the price on the ticket will be the same.

The same as cheap flights, the price is the price and anything else including a booking fee is supplementary.

I said the price of the ticket, not the price on the ticket. The price of the ticket is the amount you pay to purchase it.

 

[Clip]

I said the price of the ticket, not the price on the ticket. The price of the ticket is the amount you pay to purchase it.

Sorry but you're wrong. Ticket price if the price on the ticket and of the ticket. Same with concerts,planes, theatre, theme parks even the lottery.


Anything else is supplementary and NOT part of the price of the ticket.

 

[SuffolkRaider]

Myth number 1997¼: DIRFT is easily accessible from the nearby M6 and A14.

I went there once!! god knows how I got in or how I got out but the load mysteriously and magically disappeared from the trailer and apparently was put on a train.....is this true or was it a dream.......:eek:

 

[island]

Sorry but you're wrong. Ticket price if the price on the ticket and of the ticket. Same with concerts,planes, theatre, theme parks even the lottery.

Anything else is supplementary and NOT part of the price of the ticket.

I am afraid it is you that are wrong on this occasion. The ASA in particular disagrees with you, see section 3.18 of the non-broadcast CAP code which states "quoted prices must include non-optional taxes, duties, fees and charges that apply to all or most buyers". And it has been ruled on numerous occasions that prices of flights, concert/theatre tickets, etc. must include all unavoidable booking fees. Even Ryanair doesn't advertise its fares as "10p plus taxes" any more.

This is a matter of consumer protection, not of your opinion. Printing £10 on a ticket and selling it for £11.50 means the price of the ticket, the price that you paid for it, is £11.50. The face value of the ticket is £10. Just the same as selling a £5 coin for £44.99.

I'm not aware of the lottery having fees or surcharges by the way.

 

[Mike395]

Myth 395/HS1: Class 395s can't do 140mph (there, I said it :P ) - as I understand it, they can but there's enough padding in the timetable that they don't need to unless running late. They are scheduled so that they hit 135mph in passenger service however

 

[heart-of-wessex]

I read it from the DailyFail link so of course is maybe not accurate:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1212913/British-bullet-train-hit-140mph-late.html

It states 'around' 125mph, but this was at the time, we've had a few timetable changes since 2009. 135mph would be about right especially as I've seen a couple on Saturday at Stratford International booked out just minutes ahead of a non-stop Paris Eurostar. The higher the speed the more it can keep pace with the Euros.

 

[ert47]

Myth 125mph: Intercity 125s and 225s are so called because they are hauled by Class 125 and 225 units respectively.

 

[Gwenllian2001]

Myth A No.1. After 4638 posts about HS2, all the pros and antis have changed their minds.

 

[Manchester77]

Myth 82: A Class 82 is a DVT

 

[IanD]

Oh I know.............I use my common sense, stop look listen etc etc

Oh I know...........you follow the rules of the railway which say stop, look and listen before you cross.

Oh.........but that means common sense does exist on the railway.

 

[heart-of-wessex]

Myth 82: A Class 82 is a DVT

Myth 77: Manchester77 reads all previous posts as to refrain from repeating myths that have already been posted

Sorry couldn't help that! but someone has mentioned that already

 

[Manchester77]

Myth 77: Manchester77 reads all previous posts as to refrain from repeating myths that have already been posted

Sorry couldn't help that! but someone has mentioned that already

haha oops

 

[Antman]

Myth 395/HS1: Class 395s can't do 140mph (there, I said it :P ) - as I understand it, they can but there's enough padding in the timetable that they don't need to unless running late. They are scheduled so that they hit 135mph in passenger service however

Yep, thats what I was told by a guard

 

[Flamingo]

Yep, thats what I was told by a guard

Well, you never believe anything else you get told by rail staff, you always know best, why believe that :roll:

 

[deltic1989]

Myth # 55020: RUK comes with complimentary popcorn, for the arguments.

 

[bb21]

Myth # 55021: No argument can be an argument only ever on RUK.

 

[Antman]

Well, you never believe anything else you get told by rail staff, you always know best, why believe that :roll:

I'm not gonna bite

 

[quarella]

Any passenger whose ticket is rejected by the automatic barrier will immediately step to one side and see the gateline staff.


At least two people are required to assist with the door when an on board disabled toilet is to be used.

 

[455driver]

Myth 3.1415496-

Anyone caught fare evading or using someone elses season ticket/ gold card has made an honest mistake and the TOC is being draconian so everyone on here should expend much effort to 'get them off' on a technicality despite it being obvious by the OP that it was a deliberate act.

 

[Sammy h]

Myth #462351376

30 minutes is more than enough time to leave yourself between train arrival time and flight departure time if catching an International flight at Manchester Airport. If the train is ten minutes late, onward transport should be provided INSTANTLY.

Myth #462351377

When purchasing a ticket, after clerk advised pax of the price of the ticket it is absolutely compulsary that the pax bellows the words 'HOW MUCH?'

 

[Llanigraham]

Myth #462351378

It is possible to lift an old lady with a broken hip onto a platform, on your own, in 30 seconds.

 

[60163]

Myth #03073

On a Sunday, the Crewe Heritage Centre class 03 operates a brake van shuttle into Crewe station, Platform 12.

 

[nathanclass323]

Myth 142: Class 142s are the fastest trains in the world! Well, according to this website they are!

 

[yorksrob]

Myth no - I lose count:

A wooden stick is a far more efficient way of removing a teabag/stirring a hot drink than nasty old fashioned tea spoons !

 

[Cherry_Picker]

Myth no - I lose count +1:

A BR#1 key is a far more efficient way of removing a teabag/stirring a hot drink than nasty old fashioned wooden sticks !

 

[CyrusWuff]

Myth 169001 - The ticket inspector stamped the return part of your Off-Peak Return that you'd already used three times purely to spite you.

 

[Nym]

Myth no - I lose count +1:

A BR#1 key is a far more efficient way of removing a teabag/stirring a hot drink than nasty old fashioned wooden sticks !

Myth no - I loose count + 2:

An LUL J Door Key (square end) is an efficent way to stir your coffee, only if served in a Hayley Rail mug...