EbbwJunction1
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Well, King George V drove 4082 Windsor Castle in April 1924, so that part is right. The second part relates to what happened in February 1952 - and afterwards?
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Well, King George V drove 4082 Windsor Castle in April 1924, so that part is right. The second part relates to what happened in February 1952 - and afterwards?
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EbbwJunction1
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I think that I will call a halt to this one and give you the answer. The extract below from the Great Western Archive tells the full story:
"The British Royal Family always had a close relationship with the Great Western which began with Queen Victoria making her first ever rail journey from Windsor. 'Castle' class no. 7013 Bristol Castle at Swindon being given the identity of 4082 Windsor Castle Sometimes the occasion was a happy one, for example when the locomotives were driven by monarchs themselves, while other occasions were solemn affairs such as a monarch's last journey from lying in state at Westminster and travelling to their burial at Windsor.
Of the 'Castle' class of locomotives, number 4082 appropriately named "Windsor Castle", was chosen as the Royal engine from the time that it was driven from Swindon works to Swindon station by King George V accompanied by Queen Mary on April 28 1924. Plaques were mounted on the side of the cab to commemorate the occasion.
Unfortunately, when King George VI died suddenly in February 1952, number 4082 was in Swindon works for repairs. To keep with tradition, the number of 4082 together with the name of Windsor Castle and the commemorative plaques were transferred to number 7013 Bristol Castle to haul the funeral train. However, after the special train working, only the commemorative plaques were returned to the original engine and from then on number 7013 became the Royal engine, number 4082 Windsor Castle, and the original number 4082 became number 7013 Bristol Castle.
Both engines failed to be saved from the cutter's torch: 7013 ( the original 4082 ) was scrapped in September 1964 while number 4082 ( the original 7013 ) worked a little longer until February 1965."
I will give the honour to Cowley, as he got the first part right .... over to you, sir!
Thanks Ebbwjunction. I feel I didn't really hit a cows backside with a banjo but here goes.
It's going back to a question from a few days ago actually.
The question was: Name a preserved railway that passes through three disused stations (or halts) that as yet haven't been reopened in the preserved era.
We've had the Severn Valley Railway and also the East Lancs but there's at least one other one. Which one is it and can anyone name the stations/halts?
It's going back to a question from a few days ago actually.
The question was: Name a preserved railway that passes through three disused stations (or halts) that as yet haven't been reopened in the preserved era.
We've had the Severn Valley Railway and also the East Lancs but there's at least one other one. Which one is it and can anyone name the stations/halts?
steamybrian
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On the Welsh Highland Railway I have found SEVEN-
Bettws Garmon, Salem Halt, Pitts Head, Hafod Ruffyd, Hafod Garregog, Croesor Junction, Ynsfor Halt, (Can also include another at Portmadoc New opened in circa 1923)
The Gloucestershire & Warwickshire Railway has three
Hayles Abbey Halt (to be reopened this year), Gretton Halt and Bishops Cleeve
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I feel that I should offer to yield to Mr. Steamybrian; but I've thought of a question which I rather like, so will follow less-than-perfect etiquette.
At which European continental narrow-gauge venue is the (shortish) journey made outward, by rail; after which you go back to the starting-point on foot, through very different scenes?
At which European continental narrow-gauge venue is the (shortish) journey made outward, by rail; after which you go back to the starting-point on foot, through very different scenes?
Hint: this isnt a preserved line as such, but an element in a straight tourist attraction, which is about an impressive natural feature. The rail section (a tiny remnant of a once huge nationwide narrow-gauge undertaking) is involved because it fulfils a useful purpose here, and its fun.
Peter Mugridge
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Now if it was the other way round with the train bit last then that would almost certainly be Les Grottes de Betharram...
theageofthetra
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Grottes de Han in the Belgian Ardennes?
A new one on me; duly Googled. Certainly a striking mix of modes of transport -- including boat !
Correct ! Your floor.
theageofthetra
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There is a supurb tourist railway that was powered by electricity and had electric lighting before the country's capital had electric streetlighting.
Name the country and why it was ahead of the rest of the country.
theageofthetra
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A clue- its in a cave. Though thats not specifically why it had electric lighting so early.
Volk's Electric Railway, UK? No idea why though...
Utterly wild guess -- not Postojna, Slovenia, I suppose? (Various candidates for "the country's capital", depending on when the line was inaugurated !) Early electric lighting: mountainous setting = hydro-electric job easy to set up??
theageofthetra
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Correct. These marvelous caves with their own railway was electrically lit because they were a favorite visiting place for the Austro-Hungarian Emperor.
They had electric lighting sometime before Ljubljana.
Your karst system.
An utter shot in the dark (no pun intended !). I'm right out of questions; so, open floor, please.
EbbwJunction1
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I'll take it, please; I don't think that this will last too long.
What are "The Moonraker", "The Midlothian", "The Talisman" and "The Hadrian"?
What are "The Moonraker", "The Midlothian", "The Talisman" and "The Hadrian"?
EbbwJunction1
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Sorry for the delay in replying.
I'm not sure what the "QI klaxon" is, as I don't watch the programme, but sadly you're not correct.
They are all named trains, but I was looking for something a bit more specific than that.
EbbwJunction1
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Yes, you're close enough - well done.
They are all forthcoming steam specials -
"The Moonraker" > Solihull to Salisbury, 8th April
"The Midlothian" > Peterborough to Edinburgh, 1st May
"The Talisman" > London King's Cross to Darlington, 6th May
"The Hadrian" > Norwich to Carlisle, 27th May.
Right Away, Mr Calthrop!!
Thank you. Ive thought of something indulging again, my liking for stuff concerning track gauges.
The 3 6 gauge, though long widespread in British territories overseas, has always been decidedly rare here at home. Please name three 3 6 gauge railway or tramway undertakings (public passenger-carrying, not industrial) which exist or have existed, in the geographical island group of Britain, in the very widest sense including non-UK dependency locations.
The 3 6 gauge, though long widespread in British territories overseas, has always been decidedly rare here at home. Please name three 3 6 gauge railway or tramway undertakings (public passenger-carrying, not industrial) which exist or have existed, in the geographical island group of Britain, in the very widest sense including non-UK dependency locations.
martinsh
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Jersey Railway
Llandudno & Colwyn Bay Electric Railway
Burton & Ashby Light Railway
numerous other town trams systems were 3ft 6in gauge
Llandudno & Colwyn Bay Electric Railway
Burton & Ashby Light Railway
numerous other town trams systems were 3ft 6in gauge
Strewth, that was quick ! Correct -- please conduct your preferred kind of 1067mm gauge conveyance out of the terminal, with my blessing.
martinsh
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OK. Which standard gauge line in the British Isles (now closed), had to be operated by locomotives fitted with cowcatchers because it was unfenced ?
martinsh
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Quite correct. (I thought it might be you who got it !)
Here's the evidence
https://www.railscot.co.uk/imageenlarge/imagecomplete.php?id=48334
Open floor as requested
Here's the evidence
https://www.railscot.co.uk/imageenlarge/imagecomplete.php?id=48334
Open floor as requested
A line which I much regret not having travelled on (very far from my geographical patch). Your linked picture, at intermediate Cairnbulg -- whence the line's local name, which I've always liked: the "Bulger Trainie" (hard g, not as in "one who bulges" !).
EbbwJunction1
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If this is still an open floor, how about this one?
John Fowler and Hamilton Fulton put forward an alternative scheme to what - and what did they suggest should be done instead?
John Fowler and Hamilton Fulton put forward an alternative scheme to what - and what did they suggest should be done instead?