Railway General Knowledge.

[Welshman]

The Class 55 "Deltics"?

 

[clagmonster]

Anyway, as it hasn't been taken yet, quick Question: Which British main line Diesel locomotive had the largest number of engines?

Are you referring to the number of engines in the loco, in which case I don't know of anything with more than 2, or the number of locomotives built, in which case it is the 47 at 512.

 

[Johnuk123]

Sorry to revisit an answered question, but I'm curious; why did that event lead to a suggestion of speed recorders rather then speedometers?! Surely a speedo is of more use to a Driver approaching a speed restriction? Unless I've missed something!

The engine in question (L.M.S Class 5 4-6-0 - 45274) like most engines didn't have a speedometer.

This just shows how skilled drivers were in judging speed.

Obviously a speed recorder being like a black box will tell investigators what the speed WAS.

Surely preventing speeding in the first place would be more of a priority.

I would have thought that recorders AND speedometers should have been advised.

Your assumption that a speedometer would have been more use is the same as mine. I can find no reason why they weren't recommended.

In any event speed recorders weren't adopted anyway, so nothing changed.

 

[BestWestern]

The engine in question (L.M.S Class 5 4-6-0 - 45274) like most engines didn't have a speedometer.

This just shows how skilled drivers were in judging speed.

Obviously a speed recorder being like a black box will tell investigators what the speed WAS.

Surely preventing speeding in the first place would be more of a priority.

I would have thought that recorders AND speedometers should have been advised.

Your assumption that a speedometer would have been more use is the same as mine. I can find no reason why they weren't recommended.

In any event speed recorders weren't adopted anyway, so nothing changed.

Agreed. I thought I had missed something obvious, but in fact it was just a very daft recommendation! Evidently the Driver's judgement of speed suffered a critical lapse in this instance, but overall there was clearly a well-honed skill required for avoiding overspeeding.

 

[Johnuk123]

Agreed. I thought I had missed something obvious, but in fact it was just a very daft recommendation! Evidently the Driver's judgement of speed suffered a critical lapse in this instance, but overall there was clearly a well-honed skill required for avoiding overspeeding.

The train was diverted from its normal route and the driver asked for a conductor who knew the road.

Conductors either drove the train or stood behind the regular driver to advise of signal placement and speed.

In this case the regular driver claimed his legs were painful due to a rough riding engine and he sat in the first coach.

Although this didn't really matter it was strictly against the rules.All 3 railway men died so nobody knows why the conductor driver went at double the line speed on a route he knew well.

 

[Welshman]

Are you referring to the number of engines in the loco, in which case I don't know of anything with more than 2, or the number of locomotives built, in which case it is the 47 at 512.

Ah - if it's the latter, forget my answer. I know they only built 22 Deltics for regular service!

 

[LE Greys]

In terms of engines within a single loco, I'm going to say the Fell diesel-mechanical, which I think had four
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The engine in question (L.M.S Class 5 4-6-0 - 45274) like most engines didn't have a speedometer.

This just shows how skilled drivers were in judging speed.

Obviously a speed recorder being like a black box will tell investigators what the speed WAS.

Surely preventing speeding in the first place would be more of a priority.

I would have thought that recorders AND speedometers should have been advised.

Your assumption that a speedometer would have been more use is the same as mine. I can find no reason why they weren't recommended.

In any event speed recorders weren't adopted anyway, so nothing changed.

Curiously, the A4s actually had Flaman speed recorders from new, although they were not used after 1939. Does this mean they did not have speedometers?

 

[Johnuk123]

In terms of engines within a single loco, I'm going to say the Fell diesel-mechanical, which I think had four
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Curiously, the A4s actually had Flaman speed recorders from new, although they were not used after 1939. Does this mean they did not have speedometers?

I'm pretty sure they had both.

 

[Schnellzug]

Are you referring to the number of engines in the loco, in which case I don't know of anything with more than 2, or the number of locomotives built, in which case it is the 47 at 512.

yes, the number of engines in one individual loco.
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In terms of engines within a single loco, I'm going to say the Fell diesel-mechanical, which I think had four

is the correct loco, but not the correct number. :P

 

[LE Greys]

yes, the number of engines in one individual loco.
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is the correct loco, but not the correct number. :P

In that case, it had better be half-a-point and an open floor.

 

[Schnellzug]

It actually had six; four Paxman engines to drive the thing, plus two AECs to drive the Superchargers. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fell_locomotive

 

[Xenophon PCDGS]

In that case, it had better be half-a-point and an open floor.

A Victorian author was involved in a train crash in which ten pasengers were killed and forty were injured

Who was the author?
In what year was the accident and the location?
Which was the railway company that was involved?
What was the type of train service that was involved in the accident?

 

[Johnuk123]

1, Charles Dickens

2, 1865, Staplehurst Kent

3, Boat train

Dickens never got over being in that crash and strangely he died 5 years later on the exact same day.

 

[Xenophon PCDGS]

1, Charles Dickens

2, 1865, Staplehurst Kent

3, Boat train

Dickens never got over being in that crash and strangely he died 5 years later on the exact same day.

Absolutely correct. Which was the railway company ?

 

[Johnuk123]

South Eastern Railway Co.
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Here is a nice easy one relating to my favourite subject of railway accidents.

The following were all put forward as the primary causes of which accident ?

Failure to operate rule 55.

Signaller Error.

Driver Error.

Inadequate signalling arrangements.

 

[ole man]

Ladbroke Grove?.

 

[Johnuk123]

No, a few years before that.

Driver Error was the primary cause of Ladbroke Grove but it was the only primary cause.

 

[clagmonster]

I'm not sure on rule 55, but I am tempted by Southall.

Signaller error, I would call it more unusual regulating in signalling the stone to cross in front of the HST.

Driver error in missing the red signal.

Inadequate signalling arrangements could be put down to insufficient overlaps or some such.

 

[ole man]

Moorgate 1975

 

[Johnuk123]

Not Southall or Moorgate.

 

[clagmonster]

The incident involvin 321420 at Watford Jn?

 

[Johnuk123]

The incident involvin 321420 at Watford Jn?

No not that one.

 

[ole man]

Got it Pontypridd 1911 remember it well.

Rule 55 is not informing the signaller that he is stationary

 

[Johnuk123]

Got it Pontypridd 1911 remember it well.

Rule 55 is not informing the signaller that he is stationary

That isn't what I was looking for but it's virtually identical to mine.

My accident was at St. Bedes Junc. in 1915.

To be honest a lot of railway accidents had similar causes but as I said my causes were all Primary.
In the Pontypridd accident they were secondary but perhaps that's splitting hairs.

So I declare you the winner.

 

[ole man]

Lets keep it on accidents

My uncle was the driver of a train that was involved in a crash.

1. Axle failure was the primary fault

 

[clagmonster]

Would that be the Sandy incident which resulted in the mark 4s being temporarily withdrawn?

 

[ole man]

Nope not Sandy

 

[Welshman]

The meridian which derailed at Kibworth in February 2010?

 

[ole man]

Not Kibworth, there was one fatality

 

[Johnuk123]

Could that have been at Rickerscote Stafford in 1996.