Railtour Ideas

[Chester025]

This thread is for you to come up with ideas for future Railtours.

They can be as simple to as complicated as you want!

Here are some of mine:

55022 Padd - Penzance (out and back via the B&H)

55022 Kings Cross - Skegness

55022 Crewe - Stranrear, DRS 20X2 Stranrear - Glasgow Central, 55022 Glasgow Central - Crewe

50X2 Crewe - Stranrear, DRS 20X2 Stranrear - Glasgow Central, 50X2 Glasgow Central - Crewe

D1015 Crewe - Stranrear, DRS 20X2 Stranrear - Glasgow Central, D1015 Glasgow Central - Crewe

D1015 Carlisle - Fort William

D1015 Edinburgh - Klye of Lochalsh

55022 Edinburgh - Klye of Lochalsh

50X2 Edinburgh - Klye of Lochalsh

40145 Edinburgh - Kyle of Lochalsh

87002 London Euston - Glasgow

87002 London Euston - Edinburgh - London Kings Cross

40145 London Euston - Glasgow

40145 Manchester - Yarmouth

40145 Crewe - Fishguard (out via HOW, back via Cardiff)

40145 Paddington to Newquay

40145 Crewe - Meldon Quarry

 

[EE Type 3]

'The Salopian Syphons'

A circular trip starting at Shrewsbury, covering Newport, Bristol, Birmingham, Crewe, Chester and finishing at Shrewsbury.

37s x 2

 

[16CSVT2700]

Cornish Caper II

Loco(s)             Route
40145               York - Colton Jn - Temple Hirst Jn - Shaftholme Jn -
                    Doncaster - Mexborough - Aldwarke Jn - Holmes Jn -
                    Sheffield - Chesterfield - Derby - Burton-on-Trent -
                    Tamworth - Water Orton - Birmingham New Street
40145               Birmingham New Street - Selly Oak - Barnt Green -
                    Abbotswood Jn - Cheltenham Spa - Bristol Parkway -
                    Bristol Temple Meads
50049 + 50026       Bristol Temple Meads - Uphill Jn - Bridgwater -
                    Taunton - Exeter St Davids - Newton Abbot - Totnes -
                    Plymouth
50049 + 50026 (1)   Plymouth - Par - Newquay
50044 (2)           Newquay - Par
50049 + 50026 (1)   Par - Penzance
50044 (2)           Penzance - St Ives
50049 + 50026 (1)   St Ives - Penzance
50049 + 50026       Penzance - Par - (reverse of outward route) - York

(1)50044 on rear
(2)50049/026 on rear

 

[5872]

Waterloo - Waterloo Via Windsor, Twickenham, Shepperton, Kingston, Twickenham, Hounslow, Kew, Barnes Bridge, Barnes, Clapham Junction, Waterloo, Woking, Eastleigh, (Break), Chandlers Ford, Totton, Redbridge, Southampton Central, Woking, Staines, Twickenham, Barnes, Clapham Jnc and Waterloo.

Bold = Stopping places... and it would be with either TNT 73, TNT 33 or two cigs and EDs.


Seeing as 37s have been down that route before.

 

[thefab444]

Are you going to reverse at Totton?

 

[Mintona]

Fastline 56
Crewe - Sandbach - Wilmslow - Stockport - Denton - Guide Bridge - Stalybridge - Huddersfield - Leeds

Advenza 57 x 2 (T+T)
Leeds - Micklefield - Selby - Hull (Reverse) - Beverley - Bridlington - Scarborough (Reverse) - Malton - York

86101
York - Colton Junction - Doncaster - Retford - Newark - Grantham

DRS 47 x 2 (Doubled Headed)
Grantham - Nottingham - Long Eaton - Derby - Ambergate Junction - Chesterfield - Dore Station Junction - Sheffield - Nunnery Mainline Junction - Woodburn Junction - Broughton Lane Junction - Tinsley South Junction - Rotherham Central - Aldwarke Junction - Moorthorpe - Pontefract Baghill - Church Fenton - York

Fastline 56
York - Church Fenton - Leeds - Huddersfield - Stalybridge - Guide Bridge - Denton - Stockport - Wilmslow - Sandbach - Crewe


That took me far too long.

 

[CraigS]

Using Hastings Unit no. 1001;

Hastings – St Leonards Warrior Square – Battle – Etchingham – Wadhurst – Tunbridge Wells – Tonbridge – Sevenoaks – Orpington – Hither Green – London Bridge – Charing Cross (REVERSE)

Waterloo East – Metropolitan Junction – Stoney Street Junction – Cannon Street (REVERSE)

London Bridge – Peckham Rye – Tulse Hill – Leigham Junction – Streatham Hill – Wandsworth Common – Clapham Junction – Longhedge Junction – Factory Junction – Nunhead – Lewisham – Charlton – Slade Green – Dartford – Gravesend – Hoo Junction – Cliffe – Grain (REVERSE)

Cliffe– Hoo Junction (REVERSE)

Strood – Maidstone West – Paddock Wood (REVERSE)

Cranmore Down Goods Loop – Headcorn – Ashford International – Folkestone Central - Folkestone East (REVERSE)

Folkestone Harbour (REVERSE + 1 hour break)

Folkestone East (REVERSE)

Folkestone Central – Ashford International (REVERSE)

Appledore – Lydd Town – Dungeness (REVERSE)

Lydd Town – Appledore – Ashford International – Headcorn Up Goods Loop– Paddock Wood – Tonbridge (REVERSE)

Tunbridge Wells – Etchingham – Battle – St Leonards Warrior Square – Hastings

Hopefully Folkestone Harbour can stay open long enough for one final enthusiast railtour, this being it.

 

[D306]

A random mix really

x2 DRS 20s
Wolverhampton - Birmingham NS - Rugby - Milton Keynes Central - Watford Junction - Willsden High Level

Changing to EWS 37s
Willsden High Level - Gospell Oak - Barking (Reverse) - West Ham - Stratford - Liverpool Street

Changing to 40145
Liverpool Street - Stratford NNL (Reverse) - Richmond Mainline (Break for an hour)

Changing to DRS 37s TnT
Richmond Mainline - Willsden High Level - Watford Junction - Euston

Changing to 08 Shunter
Euston - Watford Junction (Via Watford New Lines)

Changing back to X2 DRS 20s
Watford Junction - Milton Keynes Central - Rugby - Birmingham INTL - Birmingham NS - Wolverhampton

 

[P156KWJ]

2x class 37 double headed, TnT with 2x 47s
Nottingham - toton - chesterfield - sheffield - darnall - barrow hill loop- chesterfield - belper - derby - burton on trent- tamworth - birmingham NS - cheltenham spa - Bristol TM - Brockenhurst - Kensington Olympia - Bletchley - Rugby - Manchester pic - Warrington Ctl - Liverpool LS - Birmingham NS - Nuneaton - Leicester - Melton Mowbray - Peterborough - Spalding - Sleaford - Lincoln - Newark NG - Retford - Doncaster - Scunthorpe - Barnetby - Lincoln - Gainsborough - Worksop - Sheffield - Derby - Loughborough - Leicester - Melton Mowbray - Peterborough - Grantham - Bingham - Nottingham

dunno how long that'd take

 

[anthonycutt]

Well I'm going to anyway:

Creswell (on the 'Robin Hood Line' although I'm not sure if the tracks on it actually connect to the rest of 'my fantasy railtour' anymore)- Clowne- Barrow Hill- Sheffield (Beighton Junction via Woodhouse/Nunnery Junction)- Dronfield- Chesterfield (using Midland Main Line)- Barrow Hill- Bolsover Castle (via Seymour Junction).
Of course, more than a tour, I'd actually like Clowne to have a rail service again, even though I don't live there anymore. Clowne's bigger than all the intermdiate towns on the Robin Hood Line (except Mansfield). They could easily use the goods lines for passenger services from Clowne to Chesterfield (via Barrow Hill) & beyond. At least, I think so.


Failing that: I'd love it if they ever did tours on the Trafford Park railway. Most of the tracks look to be in pretty good nick. For reasons unknown they even laid new ballast on part of it recently, even though it's disused!

In case anyone is wondering: any motive power you like, though if it's going through Barrow Hill, you may as well have a Deltic!

 

[Mintona]

2x class 37 double headed, TnT with 2x 47s
Nottingham - toton - chesterfield - sheffield - darnall - barrow hill loop- chesterfield - belper - derby - burton on trent- tamworth - birmingham NS - cheltenham spa - Bristol TM - Brockenhurst - Kensington Olympia - Bletchley - Rugby - Manchester pic - Warrington Ctl - Liverpool LS - Birmingham NS - Nuneaton - Leicester - Melton Mowbray - Peterborough - Spalding - Sleaford - Lincoln - Newark NG - Retford - Doncaster - Scunthorpe - Barnetby - Lincoln - Gainsborough - Worksop - Sheffield - Derby - Loughborough - Leicester - Melton Mowbray - Peterborough - Grantham - Bingham - Nottingham

dunno how long that'd take

F**king weeks!
I like how on the top line you have been as specific as "Darnall" and "Barrow Hill Loop" and by the next line down you jump from Bristol to Brockenhurst! You need to reverse either at Southampton or Weymouth to do that I believe!

 

[43034 The Black Horse]

56X2 Newport - Parkway - Pad
58x2 Pad -Temple Meads - Taunton
37's T+T Taunton - Minehead - Taunton
56X2 Taunton - PLymouth
25X3 Plymouth - Penzance
52X2 Penzance - Temple Meads
50X2 Temple Meads - Pad (Via Box)
55022 PAD- Parkway - Newport


Yes Please:grin:

 

[CraigS]

from Bristol to Brockenhurst! You need to reverse either at Southampton or Weymouth to do that I believe!

Not if you go from Bristol to Brockenhurst via Didcot, Reading West, Basingstoke and Southampton Central.

 

[Mintona]

Fair point, but I was sort of thinking, as the next point is Kensington Olympia.

 

[CraigS]

Fair point, but I was sort of thinking, as the next point is Kensington Olympia.

Ah, you probably would have to reverse somewhere then.

 

[thefab444]

Not if you go from Bristol to Brockenhurst via Didcot, Reading West, Basingstoke and Southampton Central.

Or via Bath, Westbury, Romsey and Chandlers Ford. However, you'd need to reverse at Brockenhurst in order to go towards Kensington Olympia.

 

[EE Type 3]

WCRC 33s x 2

Penzance - Wick

 

[D306]

London Euston to Crewe in 87002

 

[37412]

Friday

Cl 87 (0600ish start) Euston - Edinburgh, Cl 37/0 x 1 Edinburgh - Fort Bill - Mallaig - Fort Bill (arr around 2300 after breaks at stations over the day)

Saturday

Cl 37/0 x 1 Fort Bill - Edinburgh - Carlisle - Newcastle - Edinburgh - Inverness

Sunday

Cl 37/0 x 1 Inverness - Wick - Thurso - Inverness

Monday

Cl 37/0 x 1 Inverness - Edinburgh, Cl 87 Edinburgh - Euston

 

[Chester025]

Friday

Cl 87 (0600ish start) Euston - Edinburgh, Cl 37/0 x 1 Edinburgh - Fort Bill - Mallaig - Fort Bill (arr around 2300 after breaks at stations over the day)

Saturday

Cl 37/0 x 1 Fort Bill - Edinburgh - Carlisle - Newcastle - Edinburgh - Inverness

Sunday

Cl 37/0 x 1 Inverness - Wick - Thurso - Inverness

Monday

Cl 37/0 x 1 Inverness - Edinburgh, Cl 87 Edinburgh - Euston

Nice!

 

[jopsuk]

Do any of the charter stock companies own sleeper crriages to make such massive tours comfortable (without resorting to hotels)?

 

[Chester025]

Do any of the charter stock companies own sleeper crriages to make such massive tours comfortable (without resorting to hotels)?

I think Cargo-D have some!

 

[Techniquest]

I've been tossing around ideas for railtours for a while, mainly ones that do track in the Midlands that is never used for tours and filling in bits here and there that I'd love to have highlighted in my atlas.

Some bits I've love to see done:

Round Oak
Burton-on-Trent - Leicester via Coalville
Moreton-on-Lugg
Walsall - Water Orton

 

[Phoenix]

Well I have always had a few in mind some strange but here goes.

The cross city Can Can
86259+86101 TnT Lichfield Trent Valley (high level) -Redditch - Lichfield Trent Valley
(im yet to see a leccy on the cross city)

The West coast changer
86101 Euston -Watford - Milton keynes -coventry - Birmingham New Street

90xxx Birmingham New Street - wolverhampton -Stafford -Crewe

87002 Crewe - Glasgow

and return to follow in reverse order

(okay abit sketchy but an idea still)

 

[87015]

(im yet to see a leccy on the cross city)

Know of one passenger working - 86222 (aka furry) rescued some duff that sat down at Kings Norton on a VXC working one summer saturday and worked into New St.

25309 Euston-Bletchley-Bedford-Corby-Leicester-Pancras would be a nice saunter with 309 being a former CW machine.

 

[5872]

Valenta + 9 mk3s + Valenta, KGX-ABD-PNZ, a Frothy tour

 

[Mintona]

323s are leccy are they not..?

I like the name Cross City Can Can though!

 

[EE Type 3]

323s are leccy are they not..?

Pedant :-P8)

 

[jopsuk]

I think Cargo-D have some!

According to their website, they've got a solitary sleeping car, for staff mainly.

Are the Night Riveria and Caledonian Sleeper sets really the only full sleeper rakes around? And how many sleeper coaches are there? The two lowland sleepers each have up to twelve I believe (six for Glasgow, six for Edinburgh) plus two seated and two lounge. The Highland has two sleeper cars for Fort William*- are there five each for Inverness and Aberdeen (bringing it to the same size as the Lowland)? That would put the Caledonian on a total each night of forty eight running- wikipedia says they have 53, which seems a reasonable pool of spares.

How many sleeper cars do the Night Riveria services run? From what I can pick out they're barely bigger than a single "section" of the Caledonian, so I'd guess no more than six each way. Add a couple of spares to that, and add to the Caledonian stock, and you've got around seventy. Again relying on wikipedia, there were over 200 mk3 sleeper coaches built 82-84.


*These get a lounge car added for the run between Edinburgh and Fort William

 

[1D53]

Night Riveria has normally 3 to 5 each way per night, there is normally a couple spare on Long Rock too.