RailAdventure Power Cars

[fgwrich]

That'll be on two levels. The fact it's a pair of power cars, and that they're being used as locos.

Indeed The irony of the history of the ECML traction is not lost in this move. Then again, we’ve seen a number of 33s rescuing 50s on pres lines too.

 

[ExRes]

43465 & 43484 and 43468 & 43480 worked 0715 6Z75 Kings Norton OTPD to Northampton TC Up Sidings with two IWA translator vans, 1014 0Z76 to Wembley Receptions 1-7, 1333 6Q77 to Walton Old Junction MSC Sidings with 777023, 777019 & 777031 and barriers and 2309 6Q78 to Kirkdale CS with two 777s



** Updated Thursday 31st August **


43465 & 43484 and 43468 & 43480 worked 0501 6Z79 Kirkdale CS to Walton Old Junction MSC Sidings and 2307 6Q80 return to Kirkdale CS with the remaining 777



** Updated Friday 1st September **


43465 & 43484 and 43468 & 43480 working 0501 6Z81 Kirkdale CS to Northampton TC Up Sidings with the barrier array, 1315 6Z82 to Wembley Receptions 1-7 after adding the two IWA translator vans and 1545 6Z83 to Kidderminster SVR with just the IWAs

 

[ExRes]

43468 & 43480 working 1153 0Z43 Kidderminster SVR to Ely Mlf Papworth Sidings

 

[The_Train]

43468 & 43480 working 1153 0Z43 Kidderminster SVR to Ely Mlf Papworth Sidings

Power cars to Ely? I bet they are nervous about getting back out

 

[43096]

Power cars to Ely? I bet they are nervous about getting back out

I bet they’re not…

 

[The_Train]

I bet they’re not…

They're inanimate objects which don't have feelings, so I'd bet you're right. Thanks for taking a tongue in cheek comment so seriously though

 

[43096]

They're inanimate objects which don't have feelings, so I'd bet you're right. Thanks for taking a tongue in cheek comment so seriously though

My comment wasn’t serious either!

They’ve escaped from Ely before…

 

[ExRes]

Power cars to Ely? I bet they are nervous about getting back out

No problems there I believe @The_Train the RailAdventure staff have been thoroughly trained by watching episodes of 'Allo 'Allo showing how to break into and back out of the PoW Camp, escape to Yarmouth is currently planned for 1138 tomorrow



** Updated Tuesday 12th September **


Some pictures on WNXX (subscription section) of the power cars arriving at Ely yesterday and being split in preparation for todays 5Z44, also reported by a contributor are the coach numbers expected to be moving, 48133, 48132, 48131, 49111, 48113, 49101, 48103, 48101, 48115, 48125 & 49107

43468 & 43480 worked 1138 5Z44 Ely Mlf Papworth Sidings to Yarmouth CHS either end of 11 Mk3 coaches then 1636 0Z45 to Kidderminster SVR

 

[The_Train]

No problems there I believe @The_Train the RailAdventure staff have been thoroughly trained by watching episodes of 'Allo 'Allo showing how to break into and back out of the PoW Camp, escape to Yarmouth is currently planned for 1138 tomorrow

 

[43096]

43468 & 43480 worked 1138 5Z44 Ely Mlf Papworth Sidings to Yarmouth CHS either end of 11 Mk3 coaches then 1636 0Z45 to Kidderminster SVR

Which is the longest HST set ever run as a 2+11*. The 36-way control jumpers were connected so the two power cars were working in multi.

* As a classic HST with two power cars on a set of trailers; so excluding rescues with two sets coupled together etc.

 

[ExRes]

Which is the longest HST set ever run as a 2+11*. The 36-way control jumpers were connected so the two power cars were working in multi.

Thanks for that, I was wondering about them being in multi or not as from sad experience I know how gutless a single power car could be on 8 let alone 11

 

[Wyrleybart]

Thanks for that, I was wondering about them being in multi or not as from sad experience I know how gutless a single power car could be on 8 let alone 11

That is what a generational change of attitude does. At one time a 2200ish hp diesel loco would be regarded as a quite respectable type 4 viz a viz the Swindon and NBL B-Bs. Then class 56 58 59 60 66 67 68 69 and 70 came along with 3000+ hp units and tipped the balance.
The only reason a HST powercar is "gutless" is because it was never designed with field diverts like a conventional loco.

 

[Jacob Porrett]

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RA 43s out and about today around Warrington area.

 

[ExRes]

That is what a generational change of attitude does. At one time a 2200ish hp diesel loco would be regarded as a quite respectable type 4 viz a viz the Swindon and NBL B-Bs. Then class 56 58 59 60 66 67 68 69 and 70 came along with 3000+ hp units and tipped the balance.
The only reason a HST powercar is "gutless" is because it was never designed with field diverts like a conventional loco.

I don't know about 'generational changes of attitude', all I know is the experience of actually driving them, in the early 2000s we had fleet wide problems at MML and virtually every set was running with one power car shut down, a double Nottingham for example was suffering at least a 15 minute loss on every trip, stress for the passengers, stress for the traincrew and stress for the drivers, no doubt stress for the signallers as well, gutless would have been one of the kindest descriptions during that period


43468 & 43480 worked 0940 0Z43 Kidderminster SVR to Warrington Bank Quay and 1407 0Z46 return both via Shrewsbury



** Updated Wednesday 20th September **


43465 & 43484 and 43468 & 43480 worked 0753 0Z76 Kidderminster SVR to Wembley Receptions 1-7 and 1333 6Q77 to Walton Old Junction MSC Sidings with 777020, 777026 & 777152 and the barrier array

 

[ExRes]

43465 & 43484 and 43468 & 43480 worked last nights 2300 6Q80 Walton Old Junction MSC Sidings to Kirkdale CS and 0501 6Q81 return

Carl Watson updated his 'Carl's Railway Photos' site a couple of days ago and has a couple of photos of 43423 & 43467 dated 1st August showing the pair in the Van Shop at Eastleigh 'awaiting a restart of their repainting'

 

[The_Train]

43465 & 43484 and 43468 & 43480 worked last nights 2300 6Q80 Walton Old Junction MSC Sidings to Kirkdale CS and 0501 6Q81 return

Carl Watson updated his 'Carl's Railway Photos' site a couple of days ago and has a couple of photos of 43423 & 43467 dated 1st August showing the pair in the Van Shop at Eastleigh 'awaiting a restart of their repainting'

Were they hauling units Res?

 

[ExRes]

Were they hauling units Res?

They would have been hauling two of 020, 026 & 152 as far as I'm aware, I understand they can only deal with two units at a time at Kirkdale

 

[The_Train]

They would have been hauling two of 020, 026 & 152 as far as I'm aware, I understand they can only deal with two units at a time at Kirkdale

Thanks mate, I have posted in the 777 thread as well

 

[ExRes]

Were they hauling units Res?

Courtesy of @Rhysdabeast it was 020 & 026 to Kirkdale with 152 remaining at Walton



** Updated Saturday 23rd September **


43465 & 43484 and 43468 & 43480 worked 0649 6Z82 Walton Old Junction MSC Sidings to Northampton TC double/quad headed with the barriers



** Updated Sunday 24th September **


43465 & 43484 and 43468 & 43480 worked 0929 6Z83 Northampton TC Up Sidings to Wembley Receptions 1-7 with the barriers, 1203 0Z43 to Butterley MRC, 1820 6X44 to Toton North Yard with a RailVac and ballast feeder and 1949 0Z45 to Tyseley Steam Trust



** Updated Monday 25th September **


43465 & 43484 and 43468 & 43480 worked 1100 0Z43 Tyseley Steam Trust to Soho LMD for fuelling and 1339 0Z44 to Kidderminster SVR

 

[ExRes]

43465 & 43484 and 43468 & 43480 worked 0700 6Z76 Kidderminster SVR to Walton Old Junction MSC Sidings with the two translator vans (thanks @ls2270 )



** Updated Sunday 1st October **


43465 & 43484 and 43468 & 43480 worked 1314 6Q77 Walton Old Junction MSC Sidings to Kirkdale CS with 777150 & 777152 and two translator vans then 1705 6Z78 to Kidderminster SVR with the translators

 

[ExRes]

43465 & 43484 and 43468 & 43480 worked yesterdays 1207 0Z75 Kidderminster SVR to Tyseley Steam Trust then todays 0835 0Z76 to Wembley Receptions 1-7, 1329 6Q77 to Walton Old Junction MSC Sidings hauling 777030, 777028 & 777024 with the barriers and Harsco Stoneblower DR80207 which was dropped off at Northampton TC Up Sidings



** Updated Thursday 12th October **


43465 & 43484 and 43468 & 43480 worked 2254 6Q80 Walton Old Junction MSC Sidings to Kirkdale CS with 777024 and the barriers



** Updated Friday 13th October **


43465 & 43484 and 43468 & 43480 worked 0501 6Z81 Kirkdale CS to Wembley Receptions 1-7 with the barriers and 1247 0Z82 to Laira T&RMSD

 

[Cletus]

** Updated Friday 13th October **


43465 & 43484 and 43468 & 43480 working 0501 6Z81 Kirkdale CS to Wembley Receptions 1-7 with the barriers and 1247 0Z82 to Laira T&RMSD

Saw this earlier passing through Starcross.

I was on the other side of estuary, so it looked odd, not a GWR or XC service anyway!

 

[ExRes]

Saw this earlier passing through Starcross.

I was on the other side of estuary, so it looked odd, not a GWR or XC service anyway!

If you're at Starcross tomorrow around 1443 & 1551 you should see two XC sets going through Chaddesden bound with the RA power cars

 

[Cletus]

If you're at Starcross tomorrow around 1443 & 1551 you should see two XC sets going through Chaddesden bound with the RA power cars

Think I’ll still be in Cornwall then, but thanks for the info.

 

[Class43lover]

Saw them today

If you're at Starcross tomorrow around 1443 & 1551 you should see two XC sets going through Chaddesden bound with the RA power cars

 

[ExRes]

The RA power cars worked two sets of off lease XC Mk3s yesterday (Saturday)

43468 & 43480 on 1358 5Z25 Laira T&RSMD to Chaddesden reportedly hauling 42378, 42373, 42376, 45004, 42372, 42368, 45001, 42371 & 44072

43465 & 43484 on 1436 5Z26 Laira T&RSMD to Chaddesden reportedly hauling 41193, 45003, 42366, 44052, 45005, 42369, 42290, 45002 & 42234

They then worked todays 1200 5Z25 and 1650 5Z26 Chaddesden to Barrow Hill LIP, I see that the social media differences of opinion continue with both Mexico and Nigeria claimed as the destination for the coaches and that the ship "Panthera J" is worth following after its arrival at Great Yarmouth, due on monday morning



** Updated Monday 16th October **


43465 & 43484 and 43468 & 43480 worked 0949 0Z43 Barrow Hill LIP to Doncaster Wood Yard, 1332 6X44 to Butterley MRC with a RailVac and ballast feeder and 1706 0Z45 to Tyseley Steam Trust



** Updated Wednesday 18th October **


43465 & 43484 and 43468 & 43480 worked 0739 0Z75 Tyseley Steam Trust to Kidderminster SVR and 0940 6Z76 to Walton Old Junction MSC Sidings with the barriers



** Updated Friday 20th October **


43465 & 43484 and 43468 & 43480 worked 0655 0Z78 Walton Old Junction MSC Sidings to Kidderminster SVR



** Updated Thursday 26th October **


43465 & 43484 and 43468 & 43480 worked 1023 0Z43 Kidderminster SVR to Tyseley Steam Trust

 

[ExRes]

43468 & 43480 working 1046 0Z43 Tyseley LMD to Ely MLF Papworth Sidings

 

[The_Train]

43468 & 43480 working 1046 0Z43 Tyseley LMD to Ely MLF Papworth Sidings

I believe they will be working onwards (possibly tomorrow) to Yarmouth with more power cars for export

Edit: Make that to Leicester

 

[ExRes]

43468 & 43480 worked 1500 0Z44 Ely Papworth Sidings GBRf to Leicester LIP either end of 43306, 43316, 43320 & 43307

 

[43096]

43468 & 43480 working 1500 0Z44 Ely Papworth Sidings GBRf to Leicester LIP either end of 43306, 43316, 43320 & 43307

Obviously only the leading power car is powering.