That's only in the last few years. As late as 2012/13 if you look at google images of UK train tickets (or have any old ones lying around) they did not use the circle previously. I was just surprised they 'disallow' the circle. What they are saying basically is be sensible and thoughtful when you use the rail symbol I don't think they would mind if it was used the way LM used it.
When we've been on ops or exercises with US troops they always get asked this by the younger Brits, the answer is that this is how the flag would look from the right hand side (the reverse flag is worn on the right sleeve so that the stars are to the front) if being flown and that it also depicts the US 'going forwards'. Nothing to do with misprinted badges, it's been done for decades now. I've got a few of these patches over the years as part of exchanges for TRFs.
Used for both, and for some CS and CSS functions too.
National Rail Enquiries are also in breach.
It is funny how even the updated/beta version of the website still features the symbol in breach of the guidelines - you would think if their aim was for consistency then they would start by applying it to projects they are already working on...
1. The document's only just been released, the brief for the website will not have been able to feature it and 2. I can't see anything in the document that says other entities are obligated to follow it. Network Rail and National Rail are completely separate organisations.
I've seen it mentioned that there was actually a regulation that the top arrow had to point towards the bow to assist with navigating clear of the vessel in restricted visibility. Not sure of the provenance on that one!
Many (all?) US passenger rail/tram vehicles have a flag somewhere on the livery (it's especially prominent on the NYC subway), and they likewise always have the stripes towards the back of the vehicle.
I was wondering how P&O are going to handle their new double-enders. But they already appear always to show their flag with the blue segment to the left, whichever side it is on.
Am i stupid or has that National Rail symbol been flipped?
That was the point of my post.
ah sorry, i just opened the thread and noticed that.
Almost certainly done in an attempt to avoid any sort of copyright claim.
'Great British' anything is annoying. These days whatever 'it' is usually isn't great. Our railways are a prime example.
The phrase "Great Britain" came about in order to distinguish our island from Brittany, which has the same name in some other languages, eg in French "Bretagne" vs "Grande-Bretagne".
1. Transport for Britain is not inclusive of Northern Ireland, depending on who you ask.
I wouldn't have thought so, plus it looks dreadful to anyone familiar with using a railway station. In my experience of the property marketing profession I'd assume plain incompetence in all matters until proved otherwise (by someone with a different background).
There was a loco (70s early 80s?) that had a reversed double arrow logo, I think it was a class 31. Don't know how that happened or they were having a laugh!
There was at least one class 20 with a reversed logo. Also quite a few 08s in the Manchester area which had a number of strange variations from standard blue, as well as reversed logos they had a different shade of blue, different shade of yellow, older style number typeface and red buffer beams and side rods
I dunno... Bake-off's okay!!!
All well and good for the 12th century but obviously not anyone's reason for using it now.
Fair point, that is one of my vices
Ships had a flipped logo on one side
Send your third request under FOI. They'll have to reply then.
