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Has something happened to the Barry Dow Chemcials flow? Temporary cessation or something more permanent?
Further to my previous reply, it's running from Barry again this week:




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It was cancelled, ballast for HS2 at Quainton apparently.

Thanks, a repeat is showing for this week as well but as there's a 56 going from Chaddesden tomorrow for another 3 days route learning I doubt there'll be a 6M21 this week either
 

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Does anyone know why there's been a route change for the Peak Forest/Dow Low to Ashburys' aggregate trains? For many years they ran via Marple and Guide Bridge now they cover the same route as the empties return via Denton and Ashton Moss North. Is it only a temporary change?
 

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Does anyone know why there's been a route change for the Peak Forest/Dow Low to Ashburys' aggregate trains? For many years they ran via Marple and Guide Bridge now they cover the same route as the empties return via Denton and Ashton Moss North. Is it only a temporary change?
Hi Bob, I may be mistaken, but I heard a rumour that another slip has been noticed at Hague Bar. Notas bad as last time but they may be keeping weight off it until they know what is happening. George
 

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Further casualties at Freightliner Felixstowe...below no longer run from next week.

4L85 Tinsley to Felixstowe/4E82 Felixstowe to Tinsley
4L89 Ditton to Felixstowe/4M88 Felixstowe to Ditton
4L86 Manchester to Felixstowe/4M69 Felixstowe to Manchester
I have heard that this pair is coming back from next week due to Ditton effectively ‘swapping’ its London Gateway and Felixstowe services - the London gateway service now runs in the timings of the other Felixstowe to Ditton so seems to be leaving it clear for 4L89 and 4M88 to return.
 

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I have heard that this pair is coming back from next week due to Ditton effectively ‘swapping’ its London Gateway and Felixstowe services - the London gateway service now runs in the timings of the other Felixstowe to Ditton so seems to be leaving it clear for 4L89 and 4M88 to return.
4L89 is already back, replacing 4L67:



(4M88 has been removed from the trainplan altogether, so it won't be reappearing I'm afraid)


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4L89 is already back, replacing 4L67:

Wow that was quick!
(4M88 has been removed from the trainplan altogether, so it won't be reappearing I'm afraid)


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What exactly do you mean by this? It’s still in the timetable. It was activated and then cancelled today!
 

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Wow that was quick!

What exactly do you mean by this? It’s still in the timetable.
I have seen the official Freightliner loco/traincrew diagrams - 4M88 is one of many Felixstowe paths
which are no longer resourced as of this week.

It was activated and then cancelled today!
That's perfectly normal - if a train is activated exactly 3 hours before its departure time,
that means that it has been set to 'auto activate', whether the train actually runs or not.



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I have seen the official Freightliner loco/traincrew diagrams - 4M88 is one of many Felixstowe paths
which are no longer resourced as of this week.
Understood - how disappointing.
That's perfectly normal - if a train is activated exactly 3 hours before its departure time,
that means that it has been set to 'auto activate', whether the train actually runs or not.



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I can see today that 4M88 was cancelled at 05:46 today, which is over 3 hours before departure time. Surely it has to be activated first as well?
 

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Understood - how disappointing.

I can see today that 4M88 was cancelled at 05:46 today, which is over 3 hours before departure time. Surely it has to be activated first as well?
It's not unheard of for TOPS staff to activate paths in error, particular where recent changes have occurred.

Edit: Paths don't have to be activated in order to be cancelled.
 
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I can see today that 4M88 was cancelled at 05:46 today, which is over 3 hours before departure time. Surely it has to be activated first as well?

Looking at the departures from Felixstowe, there was a 4M63 09:12 departure with a manual call schedule (running) and the 4M88 09:32 departure with an auto-call schedule (cancelled). Knowing that 4M88 was not running, and also that it was an auto-call schedule, it would make sense to manually call both schedules at the same time and then cancel off 4M88 to prevent it auto-calling itself later.
 
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6M38 failed at or near Hebden Bridge this afternoon according to Northern journey check.Causing many cancellations.
Anyone know if its still there.
 

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6M38 failed at or near Hebden Bridge this afternoon according to Northern journey check.Causing many cancellations.
Anyone know if its still there.
My non-Italian sources tell me that 60 047 sat down at Hall Royd Junction and has now been there for more than five hours. The driver has been relieved and there is allegedly a 1Z99 en route from Doncaster....although I can't find it on Open Time Trains. Absolutely nothing running on the Calder Valley....so it doesn't look as though single line working has been instituted. There's a 9E20 sitting at Smithy Bridge on the Down. Are TPE diverting via the Calder Valley this week?
 

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4L89 is already back, replacing 4L67:



(4M88 has been removed from the trainplan altogether, so it won't be reappearing I'm afraid)


MARK
4L67 is running today. Is the ‘trainplan’ just extremely volatile right now, and what happens can’t really be predicted?
 

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