Problems at Kemble

[Loppylugs]

Anyone know what the problem is at Kemble? 6C52 held for 40 minutes, disruption all afternoon and now a 1Z99 on it's way there from Gloucester.

 

[dhouk]

6J83 broken down - line blocked in the Swindon to Standish Jn direction only.

I'm unaware of the 6C52 in the region.

Services for South Wales and Cheltenham Spa services are diverting via Bristol Parkway (with reversal there) before heading up to Gloucester to continue the journey, adding about 35m to journey times.

 

[Loppylugs]

6J83 broken down - line blocked in the Swindon to Standish Jn direction only.

I'm unaware of the 6C52 in the region.

Services for South Wales and Cheltenham Spa services are diverting via Bristol Parkway (with reversal there) before heading up to Gloucester to continue the journey, adding about 35m to journey times.

Many thanks for the info. 6C52 was held at Minety Crossing from around 13-30 until 14-10.

 

[68001]

2 x1Z99 locos to assist 6J83
1Z99 bescott down side-kemble
1Z99 Gloucester yard-kemble

 

[Jim]

Just coupling up now, delayed more as the failed train never put any detts down until prompted apparently!

 

[Tomnick]

Just coupling up now, delayed more as the failed train never put any detts down until prompted!

We don't put dets down as part of assistance protection any more, so on that basis the driver of the failed train was correct.

 

[12LDA28C]

Just coupling up now, delayed more as the failed train never put any detts down until prompted!

Who 'prompted' the driver to put dets down? It's no longer a Rule Book requirement, the driver and signaller should be aware.

 

[Jim]

I must have overheard incorrectly then! Forgive me!

 

[Signal_Box]

We don't put dets down as part of assistance protection any more, so on that basis the driver of the failed train was correct.

Unless…….the Stroud Valley isn’t a very good place for GSMR reception in places, also sight lines aren’t good again in places so detonation protection might well of been required.

 

[Tomnick]

Unless…….the Stroud Valley isn’t a very good place for GSMR reception in places, also sight lines aren’t good again in places so detonation protection might well of been required.

We still don't put dets down, we just go to the place where we would've placed then prior to the Rule Book change.

 

[Amlag]

6J83 was a Tamper/ Track mtce machine , the fact that unusually TWO rescue locos were reqd could mean the failed machine had no operational brakes and was rescued in a through brake pipe situation.
nevertheless it caused much unwanted disruption to passenger services for several hours.
I trust a full investigation will be undertaken by NR with the operating/mtce Contractor responsible for the operation and maintenance of this track machine.

 

[Signal_Box]

We still don't put dets down, we just go to the place where we would've placed then prior to the Rule Book change.

Except….always an exception to the rule.

Personally I don’t agree with it, another cost/time saving cut to the rules to suit the performance driven railway.

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6J83 was a Tamper/ Track mtce machine , the fact that unusually TWO rescue locos were reqd could mean the failed machine had no operational brakes and was rescued in a through brake pipe situation.
nevertheless it caused much unwanted disruption to passenger services for several hours.
I trust a full investigation will be undertaken by NR with the operating/mtce Contractor responsible for the operation and maintenance of this track machine.

Having read the log (which I won’t repeat, nor should anyone else) those who need to understand the whys and therefores Will do their job and establish the course of events and how those events can be hastened and learnt from in future.

 

[Tomnick]

Except….always an exception to the rule.

Personally I don’t agree with it, another cost/time saving cut to the rules to suit the performance driven railway.

There's no exceptions to this rule – assistance protection doesn't include dets! No, I'm not at all keen on it either.

 

[Jim]

I must admit I don't keep up with the rulebook in full detail (my job role doesn't hold a requirement for it), so I've learnt something new there!

 

[QueensCurve]

Having read the log (which I won’t repeat, nor should anyone else)

Oh go on, be a devil.