m79900
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The KWVR class 101 is currently being repainted into a livery with a full yellow end. I’d personally like to see it in Regional Railways to go with the 144, but I’d imagine it’ll just end up blue.
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That would match the livery on the 144 better.Blue & Grey with added WYPTE logos (the old 'white rose' one) and Metro-Train branding would get my vote.
The only second generation units that carried the old logo were the 141s as-built when they wore the "buttermilk & verona green" livery (I believe that was the official description of the colours) which was based on the pre-deregulation bus livery. Quite a few first gen units had the branding, but always on a blue & grey base.That would match the livery on the 144 better.
RR did appear whilst the 144’s were in 011’s current livery but the 144 would need the later Metro Train logos.
144017 was the first to appear in the later RR style metro train livery after its near 2 year rebuild after its accident at Skipton (red, thinner cream stripe, no yellow stripe but uniquely to 017 white regional railways logos beneath the cream stripe, all others had the RR lettering in red on the cream band).
Yes it was. A distinctive 2 tone brown livery. Not everyone’s cup of tea but certainly different.The only second generation units that carried the old logo were the 141s as-built when they wore the "buttermilk & verona green" livery (I believe that was the official description of the colours) which was based on the pre-deregulation bus livery. Quite a few first gen units had the branding, but always on a blue & grey base.
I realise we're getting a bit off-topic, but was the unique SYPTE 114 the only first generation unit to carry an English PTE livery?
The ex-Strathclyde 303s which got the orange & brown GMPTE livery spring immediately to mind. Or did you mean the only first-gen DMU to recieve an English PTE livery?The only second generation units that carried the old logo were the 141s as-built when they wore the "buttermilk & verona green" livery (I believe that was the official description of the colours) which was based on the pre-deregulation bus livery. Quite a few first gen units had the branding, but always on a blue & grey base.
I realise we're getting a bit off-topic, but was the unique SYPTE 114 the only first generation unit to carry an English PTE livery?
I read it as DMU’s but several 1st gen EMU’s got PTE liveries including 312204 in blue/yellow WMPTE livery.The ex-Strathclyde 303s which got the orange & brown GMPTE livery spring immediately to mind. Or did you mean the only first-gen DMU to recieve an English PTE livery?
I did mean DMUs, as that's slightly less off-topic... should have specified of course.The ex-Strathclyde 303s which got the orange & brown GMPTE livery spring immediately to mind. Or did you mean the only first-gen DMU to recieve an English PTE livery?
Gotcha and no worries.I did mean DMUs, as that's slightly less off-topic... should have specified of course.
Ooh just thought. A class 121 was in blue/red WMPTE midline livery.
Ah yes, 55033 (photo copyright of Flickr's Chris Morrison). Looked rather smart imo.Though I have just remembered that a bubble car was given an experimental "Midline" livery before that brand was dropped by West Midlands PTE in favour of Centro- so the 114 wasn't the only one!
EDIT- Just seen that mentioned above. I hadn't seen that post, honest!![]()
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Aye, I reckon that's the most modern a 1st Gen DMU ever looked.Ah yes, 55033 (photo copyright of Flickr's Chris Morrison). Looked rather smart imo.
51189 was part of 101660. 51803 was part of 101676.If it goes into regional railways can anybody remember it's tops number 101xxx?
I've never seen it carrying it as yet.
The ATW bubble on the Cardiff Bay line tops it in my opinion... it even broke down an awful lot, just like modern units!Aye, I reckon that's the most modern a 1st Gen DMU ever looked.
Was going to suggest the next stage - ie swap the all-over blue for blue/grey but keep the white with blue stripe! Though that photo clearly shows why the white with blue wasn’t such a good idea….I reckon they should go with this lash-up:
Absolutely!Blue & Grey with added WYPTE logos (the old 'white rose' one) and Metro-Train branding would get my vote.
I spent many hours commuting on 101676.51189 was part of 101660. 51803 was part of 101676.
Sorry for quoting an old post, but the reason I specified English PTEs was because I knew Strathclyde had some 107s (and others) in their orange and black livery... and of course the 101 in a variant of the old "Blue Train" colours which later found itself working in Manchester.The ex-Strathclyde 303s which got the orange & brown GMPTE livery spring immediately to mind. Or did you mean the only first-gen DMU to recieve an English PTE livery?
Not a problem, understood. It merely leapt out at me is all, given my familarity with the 303s.Sorry for quoting an old post, but the reason I specified English PTEs was because I knew Strathclyde had some 107s (and others) in their orange and black livery... and of course the 101 in a variant of the old "Blue Train" colours which later found itself working in Manchester.

Majority of service, surely!surely if you are going to repaint a 101 you should paint each carriage in a different livery for that real end of service experiance!
the north east ones i recall were generally blue or dirty!Majority of service, surely!
surely if you are going to repaint a 101 you should paint each carriage in a different livery for that real end of service experiance!
i understand why railways do that but it is very dull!Doesn't count as preserved if its not repainted BR green...