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Pendolino Refurbishment?

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gordonthemoron

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Ah but when HS2 is built we get the speed and travelling comfort, no doubt they will have the luxuries people want like wifi and power socket but will also have plenty of natural light from bigger windows so sad people like me can watch the world go by :lol:

However, since HS2 will have lots of tunnels, you won't get much natural light there either ;)
 

pablo

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Good joke from Dununda;
Q: When an aircraft lands at Sydney airport, how can you tell it's full of Poms?
A: When the engines stop, the whining continues.
 

junglejames

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It's really quite simple, and it's been explained to you before. Smaller loading gauge is the key; this restricts the size of the body and the equivalent spherical diameter of the cars. Support trusses run along the insides of the vehicles; as the cars are narrower (to enable tilting within a smaller loading gauge), the trusses are closer together which limit the height of the windows. Continental Pendolinos have the same number of trusses but they are further apart as the cars are bigger. The width of the windows are controlled by internal struts and need to not splinter when stressed. Continental Pendolinos have windows that are almost exactly the same width, just taller, like Voyager windows.

The world is (surprise surprise) a very different place from when the APT was designed. The 390 tilts further than the 221. All very good reasons for why the windows are small, they didn't just want to **** on everybody's heads.

Of course there were ways round Alstoms shell/ frame design for their tilting body. 1- You may find other manufacturers could have offered something not quite as annoying. 2- Alstom possibly could have done if you were willing to pay more. 3- Use a steel body (this would have offered much nicer possibilities, but unfortunately as shown by the voyagers, virgin would still have manged to make them awful).

However all of these would have cost more. Id rather more expensive and more pleasurable stock (although as said it wouldnt happen with virgin), but hey, ive given up caring now. I can usually avoid the bendy pendy pootubes, but if it proves too difficult, I just hop in the car instead. A lot more pleasant than virgins planes on wheels.

Now can we stop the arguing?!! Both sides are as bad as one another. Certainly lets stop the stupid "you must be a typical enthusiast".
 
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