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We live in a throwaway society - the plate, fork and four glasses from Wilkinsons come to £1.79 and its' much nicer to scoff my curry for the journey home off a proper plate using a proper fork and having the accompanying lager from a proper pint glass. Besides the missus is fed up of me bringing them home.

Lovely. Relax in a train seat at the end of a stressful day, only for Mutant Lemming to arrive and "scoff" his curry and lager nearby. Absolutely no offence to you but really, is this an acceptable practice nowadays? There's not much less pleasant than watching, smelling or listening to others eating.

I know plenty of people do buy fast food such as McDonalds, BK etc which is not the most pleasing aroma for their fellow passenger, but a curry? :-x

My suggestion.......... Do what the majority of civilised people would regard as acceptable to other travellers. Eat when you get home.
 
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Some would prefer the smell of curry to fish & chips or KFC - don't really think you can differentiate. Maybe we should follow the Canadian model and only allow items purchased on the train to be consumed (some buffet cars sell microwave curries). The only comment made to me on the journey down from Wigan was someone asking if I had got that from the buffet car as they would like one too. I think our 'civilisation' is too fractious - maybe more on-train apartheid is required. Quiet Car, Noisy Car, Dining Car, Drunks Car, Loud Mobile Phone Callers Car, Daily Mail Readers Car. The terrible thing about public transport is that you have to share it with the public.
 
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Some would prefer the smell of curry to fish & chips or KFC - don't really think you can differentiate. Maybe we should follow the Canadian model and only allow items purchased on the train to be consumed (some buffet cars sell microwave curries). The only comment made to me on the journey down from Wigan was someone asking if I had got that from the buffet car as they would like one too. I think our 'civilisation' is too fractious - maybe more on-train apartheid is required. Quiet Car, Noisy Car, Dining Car, Drunks Car, Loud Mobile Phone Callers Car, Daily Mail Readers Car. The terrible thing about public transport is that you have to share it with the public.

As mentioned, it's nothing personal. But I just dont agree with it, that's all.

And excusing it by opining that other things smell worse doesn't mask the lack of awareness for other peoples feelings. That's the real thing about public transport - sadly some people dont think about their impact of their actions on others. It's probably not arrogance, most likely a lack of awareness or willingness to think of others. I'm more than happy to use public transport but amazed how some people act.

But I am absolutely sure curry eaters can be "prove" to themselves that their actions are acceptable. After all, other people have annoying habits so why not just join them in looking after number one.
 

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Maybe we should follow the Canadian model and only allow items purchased on the train to be consumed (some buffet cars sell microwave curries).

I've travelled on the Canadian VIA rail network. There wasn't any prohibition regarding consuming your own food (just not at the small amount of tables by the café). Then again, I didn't take my own crockery and glasses or crockery...
 
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I suppose one could always plug in a microwave oven to heat a curry/chinese/pot noodle etc as many seats have access to powerpoints nowadays. Would that be going too far, or perhaps be judged just a little insensitive?

Before anyone shouts, I'm attempting humour! But buried deep deep within, there's also a point being made.
 

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I feel very sorry for those that have to work in and clean trains. I often travel from St Erth to Penzance and the state that the HST sets arrive in having come from London is beyond belief at times. There are bins in the vestibules and the effort to put rubbish in them is obviously beyond a lot of people :cry:

Recently a return working for one HST to Plymouth was restricted to the First Class coaches only as a result of the state that the standard class coaches had arrived at Penzance in. The guard said to me that he would not even keep animals in it the state it was in.

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I do think it's taking things a bit far too regularly buy crockery, eat a meal on the train and then throw the crockery away!

I am not against eating food on the train. It's a fact that for many it is dead time, which may as well be used to eat, as opposed to working or sleeping. Not only does this help if you will be getting home late, and too tired to cook, it is also useful in freeing up time, even if you are not going to get home that late.

If you do allow eating on the train, and I think you have to really, then I don't think it will be workable to simply ban personal food unless it is purchased on board. Nor will it be workable to have a sort of smelly food ban (this was once tried unsuccessfully in one of my workplaces) as the on board catering may include such dishes.
 

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Besides the missus is fed up of me bringing them home.
This implies that you have plenty at home, so why not wash them and bring them back out when you intend to do likewise. It seems that the word convenience is far too close in scenarios like this with the word laziness :)
 

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I suppose one could always plug in a microwave oven to heat a curry/chinese/pot noodle etc as many seats have access to powerpoints nowadays. Would that be going too far, or perhaps be judged just a little insensitive?

Before anyone shouts, I'm attempting humour! But buried deep deep within, there's also a point being made.

:lol: Whack in a George Foreman and get a BBQ going.
 

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I suppose one could always plug in a microwave oven to heat a curry/chinese/pot noodle etc as many seats have access to powerpoints nowadays. Would that be going too far, or perhaps be judged just a little insensitive?

What a spiffing idea. Wilkos were doing microwaves for £19. A party of four travelling together could buy one and get some micro meals from Iceland and it would still be cheaper than buying them on-train. They'd need to increase the size of openings on the bins for the used microwaves to go in though.
 

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Lovely. Relax in a train seat at the end of a stressful day, only for Mutant Lemming to arrive and "scoff" his curry and lager nearby. Absolutely no offence to you but really, is this an acceptable practice nowadays? There's not much less pleasant than watching, smelling or listening to others eating.

I know plenty of people do buy fast food such as McDonalds, BK etc which is not the most pleasing aroma for their fellow passenger, but a curry? :-x

My suggestion.......... Do what the majority of civilised people would regard as acceptable to other travellers. Eat when you get home.

I would disagree that the majority of civilised people wouldn't regard it as acceptable to eat on the train - after all, food is available for sale on board many trains.
 

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What a spiffing idea. Wilkos were doing microwaves for £19. A party of four travelling together could buy one and get some micro meals from Iceland and it would still be cheaper than buying them on-train. They'd need to increase the size of openings on the bins for the used microwaves to go in though.

That post has to be the best idea I have ever seen.


maybe you could ask the kitchen staff nicely if you can use their microwave?
 

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Now I'll get blamed for a spate of discarded Microwaves left on pendolinos.
Still you should know what them damned mutants are like.
 

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:lol: :lol: :lol:

Posts 32, 41 & 44 all made me laugh. Thanks Mutant thingy, regardless of your catering idiosyncracies you do have a way with a witty line or two!

You should jot them down on your discarded chip wrappers! ;)
 

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Loooooool.

I can see it now.

This train has been delayed due to a fire on board. This was caused by a passenger burning their toast

I wonder if that delay would be attributed to Network Rail or the ToC?
 

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In the old days of 'Soccer Specials' leaving beer bottles behind was just the norm. Would be interesting to know what the train companies actual take is on this.

We get beer bottles on the rail tours. Usually by the time I've gone through the train by rubbish bag is clinking away merrily! Even better is when passengers leave full bottles for us - nothing better when you're finished, the train is stabled in the old platform 2 in Aberdeen and you can finally relax!
 

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The microwave idea for a pendolino will at least give you a window to look through.
 

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Loooooool.

I can see it now.



I wonder if that delay would be attributed to Network Rail or the ToC?

Would a microwave toast though? It seems to dehydrate the bread rather than heat it (not surprising given how microwaves work)

I personally go with the mantra of leaving the train as I would like to find it. This is a clean state so I bin my rubbish or in the case of Metro take it with me. I refuse to touch the Daily Mail since it is toxic <D
 

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Would a microwave toast though? It seems to dehydrate the bread rather than heat it (not surprising given how microwaves work)

There are those combined microwave/grills that can do toast fine. But I was thinking, if you can plug in a microwave, why not a toaster? Or a kettle?

Passengers were stuck on a train for 2 hours following a power cut caused when half the train all decided to have a brew at the same time and the kettles overloaded the power supply

Ok, ok I'll stop now.....
 

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Would a microwave toast though? It seems to dehydrate the bread rather than heat it (not surprising given how microwaves work)
<D

They also do toasters for £6

Mind you if everyone did start bringing their own throwaway microwaves and toasters on board the TOC's would end up adding the cost of skip hire at the end of each journey on to the fares.

Though it would keep skip hire companies in business.
 

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Tesco are doing disposable barbecues for 30p lets hope we dont see those on the trains :lol:
 

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Tesco are doing disposable barbecues for 30p lets hope we dont see those on the trains :lol:

In 1988 my brother and myself travelled from Moscow to (what was then)Leningrad and the only food we could get hold of for the 8 hour journey was a tin of hot dog sausages. We duly heated them up over a saucer full of flaming cheap brandy. Maybe this is where I got my on train catering ideas from. Although РЖД (Russian State Railways) did have a spate of serious train fires.
I believe that someone did have a barbecue on an internal Aeroflot flight (it used to be common for people to take livestock with them on certain journies so may be they even slaugthered whatever it was mid flight and barbecued it).
 

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What a spiffing idea. Wilkos were doing microwaves for £19. A party of four travelling together could buy one and get some micro meals from Iceland and it would still be cheaper than buying them on-train. They'd need to increase the size of openings on the bins for the used microwaves to go in though.

:lol:

Love it :D rofl
 
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