Off-peak ticket used during peak time

[Trainbike46]

And so there is this concept of having your cake in buying a railcard discounted ticket for a time it isn't valid due to an additional restriction (as well as being not valid due to being an off-peak ticket rather than an anytime) and the only punishment if you are caught out by barrier staff who are paying attention is simply paying what you should have paid originally?

So similarly, I presume if you are in Tesco buying loose veg and 'accidentally' select a cheaper veg at a self-service checkout, you simply have to pay the difference if caught out?

How is the situation different from buying an off-peak ticket, and travelling at peak time?

The same situation of the only punishment being that you pay what you should have paid in the first place applies.

 

[AlterEgo]

And so there is this concept of having your cake in buying a railcard discounted ticket for a time it isn't valid due to an additional restriction (as well as being not valid due to being an off-peak ticket rather than an anytime) and the only punishment if you are caught out by barrier staff who are paying attention is simply paying what you should have paid originally?

Literally in the passenger’s contract, along with breaking journey when not entitled and taking a route not entitled. It's black and white.

Until it says otherwise that is the situation and what the passenger is entitled to.

So similarly, I presume if you are in Tesco buying loose veg and 'accidentally' select a cheaper veg at a self-service checkout, you simply have to pay the difference if caught out?

Does Tesco explicitly say that is what will happen on their website or not?

 

[Hadders]

So similarly, I presume if you are in Tesco buying loose veg and 'accidentally' select a cheaper veg at a self-service checkout, you simply have to pay the difference if caught out?

Comparisons with supermarkets aren’t really comparable and should only really be made for joke or amusement purposes.

For example, we don’t have:

National Supermarket Conditions of Purchase
Supermarket Settlement Agreement
Supermarket Byelaws
Regulation of the Supermarkets Act Penalty Shopping Regulations

 

[sheff1]

So similarly, I presume if you are in Tesco buying loose veg and 'accidentally' select a cheaper veg at a self-service checkout, you simply have to pay the difference if caught out?

As pointed out, a passenger's entitlement under the NRCoT is clear- nothing else matters, especially purchase of vegetables etc.

 

[Cantab26]

Whilst TOCs may have a local policy that allows staff to Excess away a discount, there is no entitlement for this to happen under the TSA and the correct procedure (on a strict interpretation of the TSA) would be a refund and reissue.

Based on the TSA passage quoted, I see no reason why an Excess Fare could not be sold to deal with a “remove railcard discount if travelling before 10am” situation:

An Excess Fare may only be Sold if it entitles the Purchaser of it to:-
…

• travel at a different time or on a different day than he would otherwise be entitled to travel;

Excessing away the railcard discount to the undiscounted Fare (all other matters being equal) then entitles the Purchaser to travel at a time when he would otherwise not have been entitled to travel.