Nottingham To Cumbria

[Stefan44]

Hi there!

I'll be travelling from Nottingham To Cumbria (Same Day Return) this Saturday

However i'm confused with the tickets with Northern Rail.

Here's the fairs i'm confused does this ticket cover all the changes that's included?.

Also does the tickets state the platforms? As i'd hate to have a mad dash to catch all the connections.

 

[sonic2009]

Stefan44, welcome to the forum. Have you considered travelling via Manchester?

Also do you realise those tickets are Advance tickets, restricting you to those booked services, we here could certainly try and find you a better value ticket, also giving you flexibility should your plans change.

 

[Stefan44]

I'm new to this country so i really have no clue (I'm an exchange student from Sweden)

The price is must be low as can be but im open to anything

thank you once again.

 

[Merseysider]

The tickets won't state the platform, as these can change, but there are information boards at the station which will clearly indicate which one you need.

You mention you're open to anything. Would this include split tickets (you have two tickets for one train, but it's cheaper than one ticket?)

 

[Stefan44]

Absolutely , as long as i can get there on time and back on time i'm good lol

 

[Merseysider]

Absolutely , as long as i can get there on time and back on time i'm good lol

Great First of all, do you have a Railcard? These give you 1/3 off ticket prices.
(You can get one if you're 16-25 years old and you may wish to buy one at a station if you see yourself making several journeys by train in the next 12 months.)

 

[Stefan44]

I don't have one.

 

[Merseysider]

I don't have one.

Okay.

The Northern Rail website offers you the return journey for £58 by making you commit to specific trains. That's a pretty good price considering the distance so you aren't losing out by buying those tickets.

However, if you don't mind being a bit naughty with your tickets, I can show you flexible tickets (you can catch any train) for about £10 cheaper. It involves using a little-known rule about using a 7 day season and non-stop trains.

Bearing in mind you're here from Sweden, and English may not be your mother tongue, it's your call to make.

 

[185143]

I don't have one.

Okay.

The Northern Rail website offers you the return journey for £58 by making you commit to specific trains. That's a pretty good price considering the distance so you aren't losing out by buying those tickets.

However, if you don't mind being a bit naughty with your tickets, I can show you flexible tickets (you can catch any train) for about £10 cheaper. It involves using a little-known rule about using a 7 day season and non-stop trains.

Bearing in mind you're here from Sweden, and English may not be your mother tongue, it's your call to make.

Seems to be fairly well known amongst staff, I've never had an issue there. As for normals..

 

[itsjustmyjob]

Okay.

The Northern Rail website offers you the return journey for £58 by making you commit to specific trains. That's a pretty good price considering the distance so you aren't losing out by buying those tickets.

However, if you don't mind being a bit naughty with your tickets, I can show you flexible tickets (you can catch any train) for about £10 cheaper. It involves using a little-known rule about using a 7 day season and non-stop trains.

Bearing in mind you're here from Sweden, and English may not be your mother tongue, it's your call to make.

Out of interest, what is this method please?

 

[Merseysider]

Seems to be fairly well known amongst staff, I've never had an issue there. As for normals..

I've had mixed responses from staff in the North West

Non-railway people are only just cottoning on to split tickets where the train stops, due to its nascent increase in publicity.

I feel some amongst the general public may struggle to get a 19c right every time, especially if combining it with 'stopping short' etc.

Stefan44, if price is the most important factor here (along with getting there on time) then you can have the combination, saving £10. Remember that if anything goes wrong, we'll assist you to the best of our abilities. If you feel you wouldn't be confident enough using a "loophole" then I would advise just buying the first tickets you saw.

 

[CallySleeper]

However, if you don't mind being a bit naughty with your tickets, I can show you flexible tickets (you can catch any train) for about £10 cheaper. It involves using a little-known rule about using a 7 day season and non-stop trains.

Not only do you need to inform the OP, he would need the confidence to also assure and inform in a language which isn't his first any member of staff who doesn't understand condition 19.

Given the confusion expressed by the OP in simple advance tickets, I'm not sure for the sake of a tenner that trying to further encourage someone who is new to rail in this country to consider let alone understand a condition 19 principle is appropriate advice.

I've had mixed responses from staff in the North West
...
I feel some amongst the general public may struggle to get a 19c right every time, especially if combining it with 'stopping short' etc.

My point exactly. Therefore is it appropriate to encourage 19c to someone unfamiliar.

Remember that if anything goes wrong, we'll assist you to the best of our abilities.

Except you're not going to be accompanying him on his journey.

 

[Merseysider]

Not only do you need to inform the OP, he would need the confidence to also assure and inform in a language which isn't his first any member of staff who doesn't understand condition 19.

Given the confusion expressed by the OP in simple advance tickets, I'm not sure for the sake of a tenner that trying to further encourage someone who is new to rail in this country to consider let alone understand a condition 19 principle is appropriate advice.

I don't disagree with the sentiment of your post. I am not encouraging using the 19c (which is a fairly simple principle), I'm putting all options on the table. It is up to the OP to consider them.

Except you're not going to be accompanying him on his journey.

No but I'd be able to as I have a season ticket for most of the route

I interpreted this:

im open to anything

slightly differently to you I think. However I agree that caution needs to be shown. As above, I'm happy to give more details to the OP, but only if they're comfortable with the risks.

 

[Stefan44]

Thank you for all you ansers i will buy the £58 ticket which can get me back thanks.

Sorry 1 more thing.

That ticket will inclode the changes?

 

[sonic2009]

Thank you for all you ansers i will buy the £58 ticket which can get me back thanks.

Sorry 1 more thing.

That ticket will inclode the changes?

Yes that ticket will include the changes. It will cover you from Nottingham to Carlisle

 

[Stefan44]

Thanks for all ur help i paid £58 for the tickets they said it will get me there and back and included all the changes.

 

[Merseysider]

Thanks for all ur help i paid £58 for the tickets they said it will get me there and back and included all the changes.

Good decision

Remember that even though you must be in time for your specific train (if you miss it through your own fault you'll have to pay more) if the railway is at fault (eg a late train makes you miss your connection) then you can catch the next available train at no extra cost, plus request compensation for the delay.

 

[Stefan44]

Thank you , i am a little scared as the trains don't come often to Nottingham so dont want to be stuck at night lol.

 

[Merseysider]

Thank you , i am a little scared as the trains don't come often to Nottingham so dont want to be stuck at night lol.

Even if the worst happens and a late train means you miss the last connection home, you're still protected. If you speak to any member of rail staff (the train guard, station staff etc) they'll arrange another way of getting you home, at no extra cost (for example reimbursing a bus fare, or ordering you a taxi).

 

[Stefan44]

Oh ok they will pay a taxi for a long distance?

 

[Merseysider]

Oh ok they will pay a taxi for a long distance?

It's an option that's available to them if the railway causes you to be stranded - they have an obligation to get you back to Nottingham.

 

[Stefan44]

Oh thank you so much! I am happy now! Was scare if i got stuck! Lol

Thank you guys so much you are great.

Tack så mycket ni är så hjälpsamma och bra!

 

[Merseysider]

It's a protection that's quite generous:

43. Help from Train Companies if you are stranded
If disruption caused by circumstances within the control of a Train Company or a Rail Service Company leaves you stranded before you have reached your destination printed on or stored on your ticket, and the Train Company whose trains you are entitled to use is unable to get you to that destination by other means, any Train Company which is in a position to help will, if it reasonably can, either arrange to get you to that destination, or provide overnight accommodation for you.

Enjoy your journey!

 

[Stefan44]

One last thing i promis!

It doesn't say on the ticket which company/train i will be travelling with? It doesn't matter does it?

 

[Merseysider]

One last thing i promis!

It doesn't say on the ticket which company/train i will be travelling with? It doesn't matter does it?

Judging by the journey times in your opening post, it will be a mixture of train companies, including East Midlands Trains and Virgin Trains.

All the exact information will be in the email you got when you bought your tickets.

If you can't access the email or print it out, your ticket (reservations) will say the exact train and time on them. Remember to keep everything together as each ticket is only valid with the others

Ps take a phone/laptop charger - it's a long journey and some of the trains will have electric sockets.

 

[Stefan44]

It doesn't say on the Email it just says ''6:58 to Carlisle'' and then alot of other tickets with the changes on.

Catch the ***** to Crewe then catch the ***** to Tamworth and so on.

It doesn't state the platforms or company.

 

[Merseysider]

Does it say which time each part of the journey starts? Eg 06:58 Nottingham -> Derby then the bits from Derby onwards?

 

[Stefan44]

Yes it does.

 

[Merseysider]

Correct me if I'm wrong; are these the trains you're booked on going from Nottingham -> Carlisle?:

Outward
06:58 Nottingham -> Derby (arrive 07:29, CrossCountry train service to Cardiff Central)
07:40 Derby -> Crewe (arrive 08:59, East Midlands Trains service to Crewe)
09:09 Crewe -> Carlisle (arrive 10:59, Virgin Trains service to Edinburgh)

Return
17:10 Carlisle -> Crewe (arrive 18:58, Virgin Trains service to London Euston)
19:19 Crewe -> Stafford (arrive 19:41, London Midland service to Birmingham New Street)
19:51 Stafford -> Tamworth (arrive 20:14, London Midland service to Northampton)
20:19 Tamworth -> Derby (arrive 20:39, CrossCountry service to Leeds)
21:13 Derby -> Nottingham (arrive 21:41, East Midlands Trains service to Nottingham)

 

[Stefan44]

Yes but on the tickets it doesn't state which company at all.