Northern Unit Refurbishments and depot allocations.

[david l]

Northern have been short forming North West routes this week, resulting in passengers left behind.
Certainly a case of robbing Peter to pay Paul.

Just this week????????????

 

[sbrignall72]

Yesterday there was a 5N32 Wolverton Centre to Newton Heath and today there is 5H70 1140 Newton Heath to Wolverton Centre. Does anyone know which units were on these trains. MTIA

 

[Jacob Porrett]

Yesterday there was a 5N32 Wolverton Centre to Newton Heath and today there is 5H70 1140 Newton Heath to Wolverton Centre. Does anyone know which units were on these trains. MTIA

5H70 is 150110
5M32 was 150115.

 

[reecestrains]

Has anyone had chance to film the TFX announcements onboard 333006 yet?

Well all I can tell you is I saw 006 in Leeds station yesterday, and noticed the external side screens have been boarded up and TrainFX has been installed in the same position as the older screens inside and new screens have been put up from the exterior.

I haven't seen it in operation yet, but I'll try and find out this week if I can catch the unit.

 

[connorwilsonwy]

Interesting to see the additional display in the accessible area

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[Harvey B]

Interesting to see the additional display in the accessible area

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The announcements sound muffled compared to the original Dan Strauss announcements. I think it's safe to say this is certainly on the Tfx end and not the PA output (which I assume has been kept the same)

I personally think they would have been better off getting Televic, or the same system that Cross Country's 170s are getting.

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Another thing to note is the "Welcome to the Menston", Announcement sounds like it was put on by mistake.

It also sounds as though they've uploaded parts of the original Dan Strauss announcements onto Tfx

 

[Adam0984]

Oh no they haven't merged the 2 sets of announcements together, it just goes from bad to worse

 

[reecestrains]

Interesting to see the additional display in the accessible area

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I'm trying out the unit today and I'll give my own judgement once I've been on it.

I don't think it's bad in my opinion although some adjustments could be made on the system there.

Definitely better execution than the TrainFX installation on the Class 170's.

 

[connorwilsonwy]

Reupload as silly me forgot that I trimmed the video, overall I found no problems of the trainfx system in my opinion from a customers perspective apart from when it is pronouncing the time.

 

[Adam0984]

The 2nd bit of the announcement that's really disjointed is basically trying to say welcome to Menston's {insert time} train, but it's doing the time very quiet and in 12 hour clock and then forgets to say where its going to. Not sure if it's a throw back to an old version on TfX as for a few weeks it did announce the time of the train automatically but in 12 hour clock and then was removed as the railway works in 24 hour clock

 

[BurtonM]

Welcome aboard this Northern train to



Leeds!
Next station stop is


Guiseley

Welcome to the
Menston's to |||| train.

Needs some work...

 

[tfw756rider]

That TrainFX keeps putting out that equipment with that muffled, overly bassy sound output is utterly baffling, and you'd think the people making the sound files would at least make the best of a bad situation and apply a 200Hz (if not higher) high-pass (or "low-cut") filter and boost all treble (anything above 2KHz), but no.

 

[Adam0984]

To be fair for main TfX bit the sound is spot on by the train, the content recordings is where it lacks and how the final bit is pieced together with multiple bits of sounds at different volumes and people

 

[Soft Hands]

Not previously reported on here, but I'm reliably informed that 156420 has now landed at Wolverton, presumably for a C6 overhaul? Can anyone confirm please? TIA!

 

[Jacob Porrett]

The 158 at Crewe has had it's bogies removed today for some work to be done on them. They will go back on afterwards.

 

[sbrignall72]

One for diligentdave do we have any updated expected release dates for the units below.
150005
150105
150218
150275
155346
156402
156420
156451
156491

MTIA
Shaun

 

[diligentdave]

Not previously reported on here, but I'm reliably informed that 156420 has now landed at Wolverton, presumably for a C6 overhaul? Can anyone confirm please? TIA!

I had it input early June due to excessive corrosion. C6 starts next week.

The 158 at Crewe has had its bogies removed today for some work to be done on them. They will go back on afterwards.

The bogies have been removed to undertake some work on the underframe.

One for diligentdave do we have any updated expected release dates for the units below.
150005
150105
150218
150275
155346
156402
156420
156451
156491

MTIA
Shaun

Diligentdave (me) is on holiday. I’ll update when I return.

 

[Jacob Porrett]

I had it input early June due to excessive corrosion. C6 starts next week.

The bogies have been removed to undertake some work on the underframe.

Diligentdave (me) is on holiday. I’ll update when I return.

Ah right ok. Thank you.

 

[Harvey B]

333007 now at Neville Hill for finishing up the trainfx mods.

What's the next 333 to get the mods?

 

[skyhigh]

What's the next 333 to get the mods?

Last I saw the plan was for them to go in numerical order, 008 finishes tonight at Skipton so might be next in.

007 is coming out to play this evening on 2H60.

 

[Demic]

Last I saw the plan was for them to go in numerical order, 008 finishes tonight at Skipton so might be next in.

007 is coming out to play this evening on 2H60.

013 is already underway.

 

[skyhigh]

013 is already underway.

In which case I suspect it's nearly ready for the trip to Neville Hill, as it allegedly (according to the system) moved over to Lanky Road siding this morning from where the mods have been happening.

 

[Jacob Porrett]

158907 the other half of the unit will now have it's bogies removed like the first half has now had.

 

[diligentdave]

One for diligentdave do we have any updated expected release dates for the units below.
150005 - 26/09/25
150105 - 08/08/25
150218 - How longs a piece of string?
150275 - 22/10/25
155346 - 12/09/25
156402 - 31/08/25 (expect this to change)
156420 - 01/10/25 (expect this to change)
156451 - 02/08/25
156491 - 27/09/25

MTIA
Shaun

 

[sbrignall72]

Thank you for that diligentdave. Are most C6s at Wolverton taking the normal amount of time, or is it dependent on corrosion. Why does 150218 keep slipping. With all the short forms I thought Northern would be screaming for its return.

 

[Ben Anslow]

Interesting to see the additional display in the accessible area

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They’ve actually done a good job with how it looks I’m pressed first and only time a train fx fit will ever impress me

 

[Adam0984]

013 is already underway.

And 016 is the other one

 

[Harvey B]

And 016 is the other one

2 at the same time?

 

[Adam0984]

Yeah they're at different stages, 13 is about a week ahead of 16, whilst 006 was been done 007 was started, and whilst that was finished 013 was started etc

 

[reecestrains]

I was on 333007 yesterday which has now received TrainFX mods and it doesn't say that additional bit i.e. Welcome to the Menstion (time) train. (although the announcement speakers were not working)

While I'm not keen on the TrainFX system on the 170, I actually don't mind the TrainFX mod on the 333 and think they've done a better job on that in my opinion.