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Northern Unit Refurbishments and depot allocations.

sbrignall72

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One for diligent Daveis there a new date for 150119 and 156469 coming out of Wolverton. MTIA also a date for the recently sent 150111 and 156468.
 
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diligentdave

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One for diligent Dave is there a new date for 150119 and 156469 coming out of Wolverton. MTIA also a date for the recently sent 150111 and 156468.
150119 is supposed to move on the 23rd May. 156469 possibly the 15th June. 156468 and 150111 are only estimated dates on a 90 day program.
 

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Passed Brodie's on my way to work this morning and 156478 was outside in full Northern livery.
 

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Don't know which ones, also one of the Penistone Line diagrams will be reduced to a 2 car 150 from 3rd june to allow the 3 cars to recieve overhaul works
 

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If they were to be used in service wouldn't they need their exams.
The miles until exams running out is the main reason two are already stood down.

I mean Northern are still doing exams on all of theirs so I cant see it being an impossibility. I am sure they wont just go straight to SIMS but thats for another thread.

150119 is having its first ride out tonight after a long time away on the 2204 Vic to Blackburn, then parking up in Blackburn for the night
 

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Wolverton rebuilds 156416 & 156417 have made their way South yesterday and are now working off Newton Heath. This brings all the ex EMR and Anglia Units together again, except for the five off lease ones (407, 470, 473, 497 & 498). 156420 & 156423 went the other way a week ago from NH to HT. It also brings together the 156's that do not, as yet, have Digitrains mods, at NH.
 

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What's the deal with the new two tone half a job paint jobs on the recently refurbished units? 150119 and 132 are white at the bottom and brown on the top!
 

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What's the deal with the new two tone half a job paint jobs on the recently refurbished units? 150119 and 132 are white at the bottom and brown on the top!
Are you sure they've not just been better washed lower down?
 

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Don't know which ones, also one of the Penistone Line diagrams will be reduced to a 2 car 150 from 3rd june to allow the 3 cars to recieve overhaul works
Always used to be 2 3 car 144 and a two car 142 prob is the two car diagram is busy at least two if not 3 times a day .
 

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Are you sure they've not just been better washed lower down?

I looks like they painted the front but put vinyl over the bottom part? Friend says the cabs are also a state.
 

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skyhigh

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I looks like they painted the front but put vinyl over the bottom part? Friend says the cabs are also a state.
I would guess corrosion repairs but the spec didn't include full repaint so that's the end result.

The cabs on 15x have been a state for many years. Apart from a couple of new blank panels and replacement reading light they haven't been touched.
 

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207 and 243 are the next 2 323s to transfer to northern, stopping off at wolverton first.
Only 203,213,217,218,219,241,242 left to move north.

 

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207 and 243 are the next 2 323s to transfer to northern, stopping off at wolverton first.
Only 203,213,217,218,219,241,242 left to move north.

Was quite surprised 243 was on the move today, Afaik it still hasn't had digimods, I would of thought a unit already done would of gone first
 

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Was quite surprised 243 was on the move today, Afaik it still hasn't had digimods, I would of thought a unit already done would of gone first
Wonder if northern are taking all of the units, the 156s from EMR haven't had mods done and are operating out of NH.
Checked post 484 in the wmt 323 thread and it's got an (N) next to the number.
 

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207 and 243 are the next 2 323s to transfer to northern, stopping off at wolverton first.
Only 203,213,217,218,219,241,242 left to move north.

Perhaps northern will use more next week with the new timetable and possibly some freed up 3 car 331s will.move east which was the original plan.
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Perhaps northern will use more next week with the new timetable and possibly some freed up 3 car 331s will.move east which was the original plan.
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Don't think the extra 331s are moving this way until the december timetable change, the extended platforms on the airedale and wharfedale lines are not done yet.
 

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Wonder if northern are taking all of the units, the 156s from EMR haven't had mods done and are operating out of NH.
Checked post 484 in the wmt 323 thread and it's got an (N) next to the number.
323243 is one of those earmarked for Northern from the start, so it isn't an additional or replacement unit.
 

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323243 is one of those earmarked for Northern from the start, so it isn't an additional or replacement unit.
Already know that, also following the movements in the wmt 323 thread.

 

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Northern definitely still need a few more Sprinters. Everything diesel into Manchester needs to be booked 4-car in the peak which currently it isn't. See the below example:
The previous peak time Hazel Grove to Manchester is sometimes cancelled, which led to a dangerous situation on this train last Thursday.
 

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I'd have a guess at 150218 being used as the middle coaches?
Nope. 150111 will be the outer vehicles of 1 unit with 150226 being one of the center vehicles (not sure if it will be the 52 or 57 car). Not sure what the other 150/1 unit will be yet (hasn't been selected).
Wolverton rebuilds 156416 & 156417 have made their way South yesterday and are now working off Newton Heath. This brings all the ex EMR and Anglia Units together again, except for the five off lease ones (407, 470, 473, 497 & 498). 156420 & 156423 went the other way a week ago from NH to HT. It also brings together the 156's that do not, as yet, have Digitrains mods, at NH.
156407 (or 907 as it still is) will be scrapped. It will be going to Wolverton for component recovery and used as a NDT (non destructive testing)/Welding training vehicle. Two of the ex-Angel units will also be going to Wolverton (numbers not confirmed) for component recovery to assist the current C6 program (units are getting old and parts are hard to come by). Their fate after that is currently unknown.
What's the deal with the new two tone half a job paint jobs on the recently refurbished units? 150119 and 132 are white at the bottom and brown on the top!
There is no budget for repaints on the 150's, so if corrosion repairs get done on the bodywork, only this section gets repainted afterwards giving the units this "two tone" type livery. Recently some cash has been injected to repaint the front ends only, 150119 was the first unit to get this done, therefore 132 looks different to 119 as it was only a partial paint.
 

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Don't think the extra 331s are moving this way until the december timetable change, the extended platforms on the airedale and wharfedale lines are not done yet.
Does anyone know how many more 3 car 331s will be coming East?
 

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