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IanPooleTrains

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Can anyone tell me is Northern Rail has loaned a 158 to East Midlands trains or if East Mildands has loaned a 158 to Northern Rail because, at Derby today, I saw this:

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Someone care to explain this?
 
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Could Northern have given EMT a 158 as a temporary thing until they get those 156's from northern?

If it happened, if it happened permenantly, I would wonder what EMT would refurb it to......
 

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Could Northern have given EMT a 158 as a temporary thing until they get those 156's from northern?

If it happened, if it happened permenantly, I would wonder what EMT would refurb it to......

Same as their other 158s, but they'd probably do it in house at Neville Hill.
 

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Same as their other 158s, but they'd probably do it in house at Neville Hill.

Hopefully, I was worried they might tack it on to their less thorough 156 refurb. Of course, this is all theorectial based on a massive if :/
 

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The route via Alfreton was shut so Northern and EMT coupled their sets together and diverted via Derby as few Northern crew sign the diversion!
 

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The route via Alfreton was shut so Northern and EMT coupled their sets together and diverted via Derby as few Northern crew sign the diversion!

Well, what a good bit of joined up thinking (excuse the pun).

Congratulations to both EMT and Northern for attempting to maintain some form of service, and possibly quite a unique one at that.
 

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Very good for them to be fair. Always good to see! meant my train to leeds wasnt fully cancelled yesterday.
 

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Great bit of thinking to avoid cancellations and stranded stock due to the fatality at Alfreton. Not seen it done before.

I know the Northern service would be the Leeds - Nottingham, but what was the EMT one?

Is it the Liverpool Norwich? Wondered if the were coupled up in Nottingham or Sheffield?
 

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I imagine Nottingham - Leeds and Norwich - Liverpool would have run coupled from Nottingham - Sheffield, and visa-versa.

It does happen rarely. A GC 180 ran coupled to a HT 180 from King's Cross - Doncaster at one point.
 

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Well, what a good bit of joined up thinking (excuse the pun).

Congratulations to both EMT and Northern for attempting to maintain some form of service, and possibly quite a unique one at that.

Not totally unique - First Great Western & South West Trains do fairly regulary work together on diversions - either when the GWML is shut between Taunton & Exeter & FGWs HSTs take over the Yeovil Junc to Exeter section, or diverts & pairing of 158/159s between Salisbury & Bristol - as reccent as last month, where one of SWTs Bristol to Waterloo jobs ended up pairing with a FGW 158 on a Portsmouth bound service - due to a line problem around Westbury (Kettle i think)...
 

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I imagine Nottingham - Leeds and Norwich - Liverpool would have run coupled from Nottingham - Sheffield, and visa-versa.

It does happen rarely. A GC 180 ran coupled to a HT 180 from King's Cross - Doncaster at one point.

I may well be wrong, but I think that the 180's didn't run together in the end as they failed to couple up succesfully at Doncaster.
 

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I may well be wrong, but I think that the 180's didn't run together in the end as they failed to couple up succesfully at Doncaster.

Your half right. Some did fail to couple and others didn't.
 

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It does happen rarely. A GC 180 ran coupled to a HT 180 from King's Cross - Doncaster at one point.

I think it may have happened (or been attempted...) a few times - think it happens due to pathing issues as opposed to diversionary routes
 

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Yes I remember that wasn't it something along the lines of there were engineering works at iirc somewhere near Welwyn and there were limited paths due to One Lines each way being closed, so GC and HT merged their service between Doncaster-Kings Cross
 
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