Next Prime Minister

[backontrack]

THERE IS GOING TO BE A NEW TRANSPORT SECRETARY.

Patrick McLoughlin has become Conservative Party Chairman. He also takes over Oliver Letwin's old role as Chancellor of the Duchy of Lancaster.

 

[me123]

Will be very interesting, particularly to those of us on this forum. Their views on High Speed Rail and South East Airport Expansion will be very telling.

 

[backontrack]

Theresa Villers now sacked. She was Secretary of State for Northern Ireland.

 

[me123]

Sadly, Hunt is staying in Health. What a depressing thought. Business as usual in the NHS for England, where there is currently somewhere in the region of no staff morale.

I cannot fathom why anyone would keep that moron in that job. He's completely destroyed relations with the NHS workforce. This was Mrs May's opportunity to repair relations with junior doctors, and by keeping Hunt in place she has made her opinion on the matter pretty clear.

Thank God I turned down a job in England.

Theresa Villers now sacked. She was Secretary of State for Northern Ireland.

Not really sacked, I understand she was offered another post and declined. Whatever that post may be, I'm not sure.

 

[backontrack]

Well, that was a big disappointment.
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Natalie Evans (no, me neither) has become Leader of the House of Lords.

 

[northwichcat]

Not really sacked, I understand she was offered another post and declined. Whatever that post may be, I'm not sure.

Officially Osborne resigned but unofficially May didn't offer him another post and he left 10 Downing Street by the back exit.

 

[Mojo]

THERE IS GOING TO BE A NEW TRANSPORT SECRETARY

There is an ongoing discussion in the NR Discussion forum; it is being speculated that this post won't exist any more as potentially transport comes under some kind of infrastructure dep't.

 

[DarloRich]

The excitement generated by swapping one set of Tories for another set of Tories with basically the same ideas is incredible! They will still be screwing the poorest, the weakest and those with the fewest chances in life.

 

[miami]

Not really sacked, I understand she was offered another post and declined. Whatever that post may be, I'm not sure.

Perhaps she was offered Health? Perhaps nobody wants to take Health thanks to Hunt's mess, hence May's told him "you broke it, you fix it"
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The excitement generated by swapping one set of Tories for another set of Tories with basically the same ideas is incredible! They will still be screwing the poorest, the weakest and those with the fewest chances in life.

Didn't you hear May's speech?

There is one major change -- this time we'll have Boris Johnson as our chief ambassador.

 

[me123]

The thing is, he doesn't realise he's broken it, and he has no intention of fixing it. A very good politician could fix things instantaneously by removing the threat of contract imposition and getting around the table with the BMA, clean slates all around.

As long as Hunt remains in post, there's very little prospect of a mutually agreeable resolution.
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The excitement generated by swapping one set of Tories for another set of Tories with basically the same ideas is incredible! They will still be screwing the poorest, the weakest and those with the fewest chances in life.

It is a big change, and as I've said much earlier I think we should allow the (almost entirely new) government the opportunity to prove itself on its own merits.

 

[DarloRich]

Didn't you hear May's speech?

yes - do you believe a Tory? I don't. Do you trust a Tory? I don't. You cant be that naive - surely?

It is a big change, and as I've said much earlier I think we should allow the (almost entirely new) government the opportunity to prove itself on its own merits.

They are Conservatives! I cant believe they will suddenly introduce a liberal, inclusive social reform policy and encourage public spending while increasing taxes on the richest or on business!

 

[me123]

^ In all honesty, I doubt that they'll "introduce a liberal, inclusive social reform policy". But I'm prepared to give the new government the opportunity to prove itself on its own merits, and to hopefully deliver some of the positive rhetoric we heard from May last night. Instead of criticising them based on the colour of their rosette, I will criticise them based on their record in parliament, and subsequently in government. No two members of one party are identical.

I am quietly optimistic that we'll see a slight move towards more compassion and liberal policies with this government, although it will no doubt remain conservative in its approach.

 

[DarloRich]

^ In all honesty, I doubt that they'll "introduce a liberal, inclusive social reform policy". But I'm prepared to give the new government the opportunity to prove itself on its own merits, and to hopefully deliver some of the positive rhetoric we heard from May last night. Instead of criticising them based on the colour of their rosette, I will criticise them based on their record in parliament, and subsequently in government. No two members of one party are identical.

I am quietly optimistic that we'll see a slight move towards more compassion and liberal policies with this government, although it will no doubt remain conservative in its approach.

You are a better man than me! I could never vote Conservative. I would be ashamed.

 

[Johnuk123]

Chris Grayling transport secretary.

 

[ExRes]

You are a better man than me! I could never vote Conservative. I would be ashamed.

I'd be a damned sight more ashamed voting for a Labour party led by a neanderthal like Corbyn than voting Conservative

 

[backontrack]

Sajid Javid now SoS for Communities and Local Govt. And Damian Green (somehow) heads up the DWP. He replaces Stephen Crabb, who resigned an hour ago citing 'family reasons'.

Priti Patel just arriving at no. 10.

 

[DarloRich]

I'd be a damned sight more ashamed voting for a Labour party led by a neanderthal like Corbyn than voting Conservative

hence why we need him out! I don't think i could vote for him and i have never even considered voting for a party other than Labour - even when i lived in Richmondhsire where they assumed any Labour votes were a mistake and counted them as Conservative ones to be helpful assuming you meant to vote Conservative!

 

[backontrack]

James Brokenshire = Northern Ireland Secretary
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Greg Clark gets a new role:

BUSINESS, ENERGY & INDUSTRIAL STRATEGIES
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Priti Patel = SoS for International Development
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Karen Bradley has been named as Culture Minister.

 

[Butts]

hence why we need him out! I don't think i could vote for him and i have never even considered voting for a party other than Labour - even when i lived in Richmondhsire where they assumed any Labour votes were a mistake and counted them as Conservative ones to be helpful assuming you meant to vote Conservative!

So when you were presumeably voting for Tony Blair how do you feel his policies differed from those of David Cameron ?

To me there is merely a cosmetic variation between the two.

 

[DarloRich]

So when you were presumeably voting for Tony Blair how do you feel his policies differed from those of David Cameron ?

To me there is merely a cosmetic variation between the two.

shall we reprint he Tony Blair success list?

 

[Arglwydd Golau]

So when you were presumeably voting for Tony Blair how do you feel his policies differed from those of David Cameron ?

To me there is merely a cosmetic variation between the two.

Yessssss!!!!!! We agree!

 

[Butts]

shall we reprint he Tony Blair success list?

No need for that, but he was right wing Labour and Cameron being left wing Conservative theres not much in it.
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Yessssss!!!!!! We agree!

Yes, I have seen the light Lord

 

[AlterEgo]

No need for that, but he was right wing Labour and Cameron being left wing Conservative theres not much in it.

Do you still think left-wing/right-wing politics is relevant in today's Britain? As you say, "there's not much in it".

 

[Xenophon PCDGS]

Do you still think left-wing/right-wing politics is relevant in today's Britain? As you say, "there's not much in it".

Kind Uncle Jeremy and his "reds under the bed" are doing all that they possibly can to ensure this aspiration returns back to the wide gap that once existed in the beliefs between the parties that once held sway.

 

[backontrack]

Kind Uncle Jeremy and his "reds under the bed" are doing all that they possibly can to ensure this aspiration returns back to the wide gap that once existed in the beliefs between the parties that once held sway.

You do seem to have a bee in your bonnet about this...

 

[Xenophon PCDGS]

You do seem to have a bee in your bonnet about this...

And justifiably so...

Remember, unlike some of the younger members of this website, I was already in my mid-30s in the early 1980's when the last such incursion into the body politic occurred in the guise of the Trotskyist entry group "The Revolutionary Socialist League" (more commonly referred to as the Militant Tendency) and being at that time, totally aware of the implications inherent in what these people were trying to achieve.

 

[miami]

And justifiably so...

Remember, unlike some of the younger members of this website, I was already in my mid-30s in the early 1980's when the last such incursion into the body politic occurred in the guise of the Trotskyist entry group "The Revolutionary Socialist League" (more commonly referred to as the Militant Tendency) and being at that time, totally aware of the implications inherent in what these people were trying to achieve.

Doesn't it simply guarentee another 15 years of Tory rule?

 

[Xenophon PCDGS]

Doesn't it simply guarentee another 15 years of Tory rule?

Hopefully so.

 

[AlterEgo]

And justifiably so...

Remember, unlike some of the younger members of this website, I was already in my mid-30s in the early 1980's when the last such incursion into the body politic occurred in the guise of the Trotskyist entry group "The Revolutionary Socialist League" (more commonly referred to as the Militant Tendency) and being at that time, totally aware of the implications inherent in what these people were trying to achieve.

Momentum aren't a modern-day Militant Tendency. They are a much more disparate and less organised group with totally different aims. (Though we can probably both agree that they're both a set of head cases)

 

[Arglwydd Golau]

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Yes, I have seen the light Lord

Well done (and you've been looking at a Welsh/English dictionary)!!