New Overground line names progress?

[renegademaster]

After the flurry of initial publicity , barely any thing has seemed to have been updated. The official maps don't feature the new line names, nor do the disruption descriptions on the tfl website. I haven't seen much at the stations either

 

[signed]

From what I can remember, they are supposed to enter service around October.

The official mention is end of 2024

Naming the London Overground Lines

We’re naming the six London Overground lines to make journeys simpler and brighter. Find out about the changes

madeby.tfl.gov.uk

As part of a new project to make travel on the London Overground simpler and easier for customers, we’re naming each of the six lines. We aim to make the changes by the end of 2024.

Londonist mentions August

London Overground Lines Get New Names And Colours

Liberty, Lioness, Mildmay, Suffragette, Weaver, Windrush.

londonist.com

The changes to the tube map and signage will be 'live' from August 2024.

 

[DelW]

After the flurry of initial publicity , barely any thing has seemed to have been updated. The official maps don't feature the new line names, nor do the disruption descriptions on the tfl website. I haven't seen much at the stations either

I've recently caught up with last Tuesday's "Secrets of the London Underground", which includes an interview with the owner of a firm which makes vitreous enamel signs for stations. IIRC part of their current workload is getting designs agreed for signage incorporating the new names, with actual production beginning later this year.

 

[Dstock7080]

New Line branded signs are starting to appear around the network, discreetly covered with vinyl in the current style

 

[Basil Jet]

New Line branded signs are starting to appear around the network, discreetly covered with vinyl in the current style

... which makes me wonder how vinyl meets the fire requirements which caused vitreous enamel to be used in the first place.

 

[bicbasher]

I'm still waiting to see the new signs with vinyl covers at Forest Hill. I've seen them on the NLL (Mildmay) however.

 

[Sad Sprinter]

I really wish they didn’t give the lines those names…

 

[AlbertBeale]

I really wish they didn’t give the lines those names…

Agreed - a silly waste of money. Especially given that the existing (mostly informal) names used in practice on some of the lines are well-known and well-used - ie West London Line, Goblin, etc.

 

[zero]

I wish Crossrail was called Crossrail.

 

[Wolfie]

After the flurry of initial publicity , barely any thing has seemed to have been updated. The official maps don't feature the new line names, nor do the disruption descriptions on the tfl website. I haven't seen much at the stations either

Regular announcements at stations, and also posters, that the names are being introduced "later this year".

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... which makes me wonder how vinyl meets the fire requirements which caused vitreous enamel to be used in the first place.

Only really an issue on the former East London line stations.

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I wish Crossrail was called Crossrail.

That one was down to one unkempt blond bloke.

 

[Juniper Driver]

Agreed - a silly waste of money. Especially given that the existing (mostly informal) names used in practice on some of the lines are well-known and well-used - ie West London Line, Goblin, etc.

Yup, I agree as well…

 

[vic-rijrode]

I really wish they didn’t give the lines those names…

I still refer to the "Brown Line" as the Baker Street and Waterloo Railway...

 

[Wolfie]

I still refer to the "Brown Line" as the Baker Street and Waterloo Railway...

Hahaha Just how old are you? lol

 

[Acton1991]

All the signage is there on the NLL by me - it’s just been vinyl’d over ready to be removed.

There’s even some new flower pots that have appeared slightly too early at South Acton

 

[vic-rijrode]

Hahaha Just how old are you? lol

Old enough to have seen the Broad Gauge.

 

[Wolfie]

Old enough to have seen the Broad Gauge.

Love it!

 

[Class15]

I had hoped, when I saw the thread title, that these line names were forgotten by TfL and now weren’t going to be used!

I agree with everyone on here, the new line names are really bad. I’m not going to be calling my local line the Mildmay Line and I don’t think many people are going to be either.

 

[Recessio]

TfL's "Mind The Gap" podcast is currently doing a six part series discussing the new names with Tim Dunn , with episodes being released over this summer. So is definitely still on TfL's agenda.

'Mind the Gap' podcast series celebrates inspiration for the new names for the London Overground network

‘Mind the Gap’ podcast series celebrates inspiration for the new names for the London Overground network

tfl.gov.uk

 

[michael8]

I wish Crossrail was called Crossrail.

Me too. Makes so much more sense, in every way

 

[renegademaster]

Should have been called "Horizontal Thameslink "

 

[Senex]

Agreed - a silly waste of money. Especially given that the existing (mostly informal) names used in practice on some of the lines are well-known and well-used - ie West London Line, Goblin, etc.

It all started to go wrong when they substituted "Jubilee Line" for the perfectly good working name of "Fleet Line".

 

[Wolfie]

It all started to go wrong when they substituted "Jubilee Line" for the perfectly good working name of "Fleet Line".

That may have had a quiet a lot to do with the final Jubilee line route being quite different to the original plans which ran under Fleet St to the City of London.

 

[AlbertBeale]

It all started to go wrong when they substituted "Jubilee Line" for the perfectly good working name of "Fleet Line".

Indeed!!

That may have had a quiet a lot to do with the final Jubilee line route being quite different to the original plans which ran under Fleet St to the City of London.

That's not the reason. Firstly, the initial portion did end up pointing towards Fleet Street, terminating at Charing Cross (with continuation/over-run tunnels under Strand ... almost to Fleet Street in fact); when they subsequently extended it east, they abandoned the part from Green Park to Charing Cross and onwards, and diverted it after Green Park to where it runs now. Secondly, even if the change of onwards route had been known ahead of the initial opening, the plan to call it the Fleet Line anyway wasn't abandoned. Almost right up to the opening, the publicity still referred to the Fleet Line; and the embossed enamel line interchange signs, on existing lines the new line interchanged with, were all made with the name "Fleet Line" for the new line. But at the last minute, the then powers-that-be in the GLC, in a fit of royalist sycophancy, changed the name from Fleet to Jubilee. Stickers had to be put on lots of the signs that were already in place in parts of the network, changing "Fleet" to "Jubilee". They kept the same line colour, but started calling it silver instead of grey!

(Campaigners from a group called MA'AM - Movement Against A Monarchy - spent the first day or so after the opening doing reverse stickering on the line diagrams in the trains themselves, covering "Jubilee" with a sign saying "Fleet Line - don't Jubilee've it!")

 

[Dr_Paul]

Agreed - a silly waste of money. Especially given that the existing (mostly informal) names used in practice on some of the lines are well-known and well-used - ie West London Line, Goblin, etc.

Exactly. It will be the North London Line so far as I'm concerned, none of this Mildmay Line nonsense. I bet they don't even pronounce it properly.

 

[61653 HTAFC]

I wish Crossrail was called Crossrail.

Me too.

As I've said elsewhere before, the Jubilee Line should have been renamed to the Elizabeth Line to mark QEII's passing. Having a line named for her 25th year on the throne is a bit daft when she made it to 70.

 

[AlbertBeale]

Exactly. It will be the North London Line so far as I'm concerned, none of this Mildmay Line nonsense. I bet they don't even pronounce it properly.

How should it be pronounced then - for those who do use the name - if not in the obvious way?

I wish Crossrail was called Crossrail.

Isn't it? It is round my way!!

 

[Dsm78]

Signs have appeared at Bushey over the last few days.

 

[edwin_m]

Really the Fleet line name should have been used for Thameslink, as its central section follows the river pretty closely.

 

[stuu]

Should have been called "Horizontal Thameslink "

I have often thought that Thameslink was a sensible name for all cross-London rail services, so crossrail would be Thameslink 2

 

[AF91]

After the flurry of initial publicity , barely any thing has seemed to have been updated. The official maps don't feature the new line names, nor do the disruption descriptions on the tfl website. I haven't seen much at the stations either

I presume they'll wait for a set go live date as there'd need to be a plan in place to switch over maps and signage within a set window.