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May 2018 timetable changes
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I just searched Stafford for May 31st 2018
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On real time trains
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Sorry, I’ve been mistaken, i always thought the London services were split between Crewe and Liverpool
No worries. Happens to the best of us
Arg, thats realy annoying if that happens. First bus upto Carnforth from Lancaster at the moment only arrives at 0904, then 1004. Even should that 1013 service extend through to Lancaster it wouldn't get to most of the area till around noon. Maybe worth sending a quick email to Stagecoach/bus users group. Stagecoach usually seem slightly more willing then Northern (understandably). Maybe it will also all get sorted when the timetables get published in a few weeks?Looking at the new Cumbrian Coast Sunday service on RealTrainTimes it seems that the first two northbound trains of the day start at the rather odd location of Carnforth (0850 and 1013), rather than Lancaster. Is this a temporary arrangement due to engineering works between Lancaster and Carnforth I wonder? Even more annoying is the fact that the first train of the day into Carnforth from Leeds arrives in Carnforth at 1014, missing the connection to the Cumbrian Coast by 1 minute. My hopes of finally being able to the train from West Yorkshire for a day's walking in the West Lakes on a Sunday seem to have been dashed.
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Quite a lot happening in May at least on the TPE side of things.
There should be 2 LHCS (Mk3) in service from the May timetable change subject to training. Diagrams are going to be roughly 900 miles per day for each set, so that is quite a few trips from LIV-SCA and back, with the associated ECS to and from Crewe.
In other news....
There is a possibility that due to the Bolton wiring delays, TPE will have to run non stop between Man Picc and Preston - in both directions, via Chat Moss. I understand that there will be no Wigan NW stop provided at all due to path issues, primarily due to extra Northern EMU's being given paths via (and stopping at) Wigan NW, and the Oxford Road stop being missed saves 3-4 minutes as well.
All to be confirmed but based on recent information, it is highly likely that this is what will happen in order to try and keep the timetable in some form of shape.
There should be 2 LHCS (Mk3) in service from the May timetable change subject to training. Diagrams are going to be roughly 900 miles per day for each set, so that is quite a few trips from LIV-SCA and back, with the associated ECS to and from Crewe.
In other news....
There is a possibility that due to the Bolton wiring delays, TPE will have to run non stop between Man Picc and Preston - in both directions, via Chat Moss. I understand that there will be no Wigan NW stop provided at all due to path issues, primarily due to extra Northern EMU's being given paths via (and stopping at) Wigan NW, and the Oxford Road stop being missed saves 3-4 minutes as well.
All to be confirmed but based on recent information, it is highly likely that this is what will happen in order to try and keep the timetable in some form of shape.
That's an interesting way of addressing it, but which route would Northern use their EMUs on from Wigan NW? I'd assumed the Alderley Edge, but that was patched via Bolton wasn't it?
Are you thinking via Chat Moss using EMUs and send the Barrow/Windermere 158s via Bolton? Not a bad plan if so.
I wasn't particularly thinking anything but that is broadly what other people have been suggesting.
Virgin Trains, CrossCountry and others have bid timetables based on the plans Northern and TransPennine Express came up with accounting for the electrification being ready, so a compromise like that is far more likely than something more like what we have now.
I fear that providing adequate capacity for Bolton to Manchester will continue to be a challenge...
Virgin Trains, CrossCountry and others have bid timetables based on the plans Northern and TransPennine Express came up with accounting for the electrification being ready, so a compromise like that is far more likely than something more like what we have now.
I fear that providing adequate capacity for Bolton to Manchester will continue to be a challenge...
I think that's always going to be a challenge in the peaks no matter what happens, to be honest.
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They can admire the flower displays, at least in the daylight. Far better than Wallgate or North Western. The local community has done a lot of work to improve the appearance of Hindley station, so it's a bit unfair to slag it off.
Perhaps they could introduce an off peak single priced ticket.
Bletchleyite
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I think a GM Rail Ranger is a more usual purchase. Good call on moving it to Saturday, maybe it will become profitable again. They should really try to get it nearer 1200, as when it was around that sort of time it was a very popular enthusiast day out - ride the train, then pie, peas and a pint of bitter at the buffet bar - back then it had to be making money.
When was that?
Bletchleyite
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Somewhere between 1997 and 2001, I often used to do it for a Saturday out when I was at uni. Was a solid Class 101 working back then, too.
Quite possible that some people on here will remember the attached!
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Nice. Running it later sounds like a good idea from what you say. It does beg the question why did it have to make money and why doesn't it try to do so now but that is going off topic.Somewhere between 1997 and 2001, I often used to do it for a Saturday out when I was at uni. Was a solid Class 101 working back then, too.
Quite possible that some people on here will remember the attached!
Bletchleyite
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FWIW it was Friday for at least some of that period - the attached "mock up" (which I "might" have printed out and put in the racks at Stockport at some point ) confirms that. But it was definitely Saturday for some of it too.
The window stickers on 101685 on her farewell run were also me, in case any are still out there! (I don't still have the file).
Anyway, this reminiscing is getting a bit OT
) confirms that. But it was definitely Saturday for some of it too.The window stickers on 101685 on her farewell run were also me, in case any are still out there! (I don't still have the file).
Anyway, this reminiscing is getting a bit OT
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Has there been a comparison real time made up for between winter and summer timetable yet.
The previous ones have been a great help!
The previous ones have been a great help!
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I noticed a number of Aberdeen-Edinburgh and v.v. services, some of which were shown 324 tonnes locomotive hauled, seem to have disappeared from open train times etc since first uploaded.
It was meant to be tongue-in-cheek. I have never been to Hindley so am not slagging off the town or the station, just making an observation that in general it is better to be changing at somewhere that has staffing, basic facilities and other alternative transport options when things go belly up and there is maybe an hour's wait for the next connection. As someone else pointed out there will be winners and losers from this anyway, with Bolton to Liverpool becoming a same station change at NW instead.
I'm being picky, but that's actually a small improvement (most of the day) since the connection will be within Wigan NW, rather than changing from NW to Wallgate.
I know, I said that as being one of the winners.
telstarbox
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These are now in and match the calling pattern you've given
e.g. http://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/W64381/2018/05/21
From London Bridge - trains to Luton at xx28 and xx58, trains to Rainham at xx18 and xx48.
17 mins turnaround at Rainham.
Thank you.
It looks like the services from Rainham towards London (sorry, don't know which way is up or down with Thameslink!) are all uploaded but there is a curious omission of the 1631 and 2101 departures. I wonder if this is accidental?
On the services to Rainham from London, it looks like only the peak services have been uploaded, and there is no service during the middle of the day or in the evenings. Hopefully this is just an incomplete upload thus far?
RailAleFan
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Now available (although Summer 2018 not yet fully populated)
https://live-departures.info/rail/timetable-comparison/
Cheers!
What a fantastic site. Thanks!
duffield
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Hmmm... I see new Sunday morning services from Nottingham to Norwich (2 trains) and Skegness (3 trains)- wonder if these are for real or if they'll disappear when the timetable is finalized?
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