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Nice pictures,thanks.
I did it a few years earlier when it was 09:54 from Waterloo.
To Weymouth Quay, yes. I did it once.
At the time there were very few 73-hauled passenger trains apart from this. A morning commuter Chertsey-Waterloo, for example, was an exception. Until Gatwick Express I guess.
I remember having the opinion at the time that the Gatwick Expresses spoiled the challenge of scoring ED's for haulage. I even underlined them in a different colour in my Platform 5 book if I had 'only' secured the mileage on a GE working. The twisted logic of an enthusiast, I guess!
 
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Thanks for the clarification. I would have taken the ED through to Bournemouth, so that makes it even more annoying that I then got off the train. Maybe it was outside the limits of my Rover ticket.

Recollection is that it was available to non-boat passengers as far as Bournemouth, but not advertised. Beyond Bournemouth it was boat passengers only as it normally didn’t stop before the quay.
 

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Recollection is that it was available to non-boat passengers as far as Bournemouth, but not advertised. Beyond Bournemouth it was boat passengers only as it normally didn’t stop before the quay.
I did it on a normal Macclesfield-Weymouth day return back in the late 1970s and had no problem. In the 1977 timetable it only appears in its own table, 273, but there is no indication that the trains are restricted in this way. However it doesn’t appear at all in the main Southampton/Bournemouth table, and I have a recollection that at another time it did in some way.

However you’d only find it in the 1977 timetable if you knew what you were looking for.
 

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Recollection is that it was available to non-boat passengers as far as Bournemouth, but not advertised. Beyond Bournemouth it was boat passengers only as it normally didn’t stop before the quay.
I did it through to the quay in the late 1970s using a Southern Region Railrover, with no intention of getting on any sort of boat.
 

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Once more into the night...

08/08/87. My overnight manoeuvres start at Waterloo, as there was always a strong chance of an ED on the 22.52 Weymouth service. First an overview from the end of the platform, then closing in on 73114 in charge for this night.

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09/08/87. One option is to stay out on the boat train route, intercept the working coming the other way then dive into Hampshire for an early start on the Portsmouth - Bristol's. Tonight though, I needed to get to Dover / Folkestone to stay with family, so after a short out and back to Woking, it is over to London Bridge. Clicking well beyond midnight finds a station transformed compared to the daytime monotony of EMU's. Starting again with the long view looking in, 33211, 33031, 73003 and 33043 (obscured) lined up. Bear in mind that 73001 and 73122 are also at the far end at the buffers.

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Not sure if 33's are made of thinner steel than usual, but the reflecting light reveals an almost panel beaten surface on 33211. Not sure how you replicate that in '00"!

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28/12/86. The Christmas before also had me staying down on the Kent coast. Slipping out pre breakfast allowed me to intercept 73004 on the last leg of the 04.25 Victoria - Dover P mixed paper / passenger. Captured here leaving Dover P into the tunnel with the now empty stock. In the end, only 73006 eluded me for haulage of the original batch - not bad for a Leicester based teenager.

Oh, and the 1,000th post on this thread :cake:<:D. Not quite sure how that happened (well I do, it's all you lovely lot encouraging me on), so it has been quite the voyage of re-discovery of a fondly remembered past.

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Evocative moody nocturnal images as always @lostwin(m) 8-)

On the dates you were taking the shots for posts 996-999, I was punishing my muscles on a two-week cycling break just post "O" Levels, with 3 school friends, around Cornwall and Devon.
If only I'd known I was missing out on 73/0s and interesting train workings!
I think that makes you one year younger than myself. I was into a bit of cycling as well at the time, before saving up for my camera, every penny - plus Christmas, plus Birthday gifts - went on buying a handmade racing bike. The rolling hills of Devon and Cornwall can make for some challenging days in the saddle!

Thanks as well for all your comments throughout this thread, massively appreciated.
 

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Carlisle had a huge overall roof. It was cut back to its current extent but the high walls remain. The canopies that replaced the overall roof look post ww2. Someone on here will know the story.

The decorative end screens, sections of roof over both ends of the platforms and on the west side were removed circa 1957. The new canopies were installed as part of the same work.
 

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The decorative end screens, sections of roof over both ends of the platforms and on the west side were removed circa 1957. The new canopies were installed as part of the same work.
Thanks for the date. I thought around then.
 

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Back in with some more of one of my favourite machines at the time.

11/08/87. 33206 beneath the White Cliffs at Folkestone Warren.

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22/12/86. Whilst 33's 4 and 22 are an attraction, the main reason for posting this one is the fabulous Citroen CX in the car park - I had one of those a few years later. @Sun Chariot might be eyeing what looks like an SD1 behind it though!

Oh, I have a question too. Why did nearly all Cromptons have a dent in the nose just above the buffer, was it a particular type of coupled carriage / wagon that caused it?

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dent in the nose
See this thread
from which
The "dent" almost all 33/0 & 33/2 had above the draw hook was the result of buffering up to EMUs that had the buckeye in the raised position
And more likely
The dent is from the coupling being unscrewed and bashed onto the hook in a loose way, hitting the bodywork as it goes
 

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, I have a question too. Why did nearly all Cromptons have a dent in the nose just above the buffer, was it a particular type of coupled carriage / wagon that caused it?
They were often bashed by guards/shunters/secondmen throwing the end of a screw coupling over the drawhook while coupling up. I'm afraid I was one of the guilty parties! :oops:
 

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See this thread
from which

And more likely
Excellent, thank you.
 

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22/12/86. Whilst 33's 4 and 22 are an attraction, the main reason for posting this one is the fabulous Citroen CX in the car park - I had one of those a few years later. @Sun Chariot might be eyeing what looks like an SD1 behind it though!

Oh, I have a question too. Why did nearly all Cromptons have a dent in the nose just above the buffer, was it a particular type of coupled carriage / wagon that caused it?

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The car behind it is a Mark 2 Vauxhall Cavalier.
 

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Citroen CX in the car park - I had one of those a few years later. @Sun Chariot might be eyeing what looks like an SD1 behind it though!
Defo a Cavalier Mk2. My father had a Mk1 and a Mk2 face-lift as company cars.
My first car, coincidentally, was a Rover SD1 2600: late 1986 model. I'm sure it was built on a Friday afternoon shift: there were many different thread-gauges of bolts on it!

This thread's answered a question in my mind for decades - why the little Cromptons sported that nose-dent. I'm always learning!
 

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28/12/86. The Christmas before also had me staying down on the Kent coast. Slipping out pre breakfast allowed me to intercept 73004 on the last leg of the 04.25 Victoria - Dover P mixed paper / passenger. Captured here leaving Dover P into the tunnel with the now empty stock. In the end, only 73006 eluded me for haulage of the original batch - not bad for a Leicester based teenager.

Oh, and the 1,000th post on this thread :cake:<:D. Not quite sure how that happened (well I do, it's all you lovely lot encouraging me on), so it has been quite the voyage of re-discovery of a fondly remembered past.
Cracking photo, many thanks.
 

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the fabulous Citroen CX in the car park
I really don't want to de-rail the thread, but the CX was a thing of beauty (in my humble opinion). I always liked the Citroen look, but it wasn't until my dad bought a BX that I really began to appreciate them. (Maybe we need a "Citroen Wibble" thread... ;))

Getting back on topic, I do love the BRCW diesels. While I've never seen or heard a 33 in the flesh, I go wibble at the sight of its slightly less powerful 26 and 27 cousins. It's probably a just Sulzer thing.
 
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