London Victoria Evacuated.

[jon0844]

Another autocorrect error. It was meant to say 'on fire'...

 

[sprinterguy]

Do we know the unit number?

It was 442410.

 

[ryan125hst]

People should already know what an electric motor is.

Exactly. You would hardly say that the engine in your hoover has broken would you?

 

[wintonian]

Exactly. You would hardly say that the engine in your hoover has broken would you?

Just to be pig awkward and pedantic you also wouldn't say; "The motor in your British Rail Engineering Limited has broken"

 

[neddyie116]

I once road in a buffet car of class 442 when they were operated by South West Trains and there was an alarming burning plastic smell.

 

[455driver]

I once road in a buffet car of class 442 when they were operated by South West Trains and there was an alarming burning plastic smell.

Probably burnt the toast.

 

[sarahj]

When we were being taught 442's we were training on a unrefurbised one, complete with buffet car. There was a BR branded Microwave oven (wished I got my mits on that) and instructions on how to make cup a soup. When they came into service none of our keys could open the kitchen :-x

SJ

 

[WarrenTManager]

Fire was resistor grids burning up. Not an uncommon fault, says a man in the know. Though probably a more extreme case.

 

[ryan125hst]

Just to be pig awkward and pedantic you also wouldn't say; "The motor in your British Rail Engineering Limited has broken"

You wouldn't say that the motor in your vacuum cleaner has broken then. :roll:
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I once road in a buffet car of class 442 when they were operated by South West Trains and there was an alarming burning plastic smell.

Was it the brakes? The HST's (and loco hauled Mk3s as well I think) have a problem where the smell of burning brake disks enters the passenger saloon. It's because the fresh air inlet for the air conditioning is near the brakes. As the class 442's use the same mark 3 coach design, unless the design was altered, it will probably effect it as well.

 

[TMLB UK]

You wouldn't say that the motor in your vacuum cleaner has broken then. :roll:
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Was it the brakes? The HST's (and loco hauled Mk3s as well I think) have a problem where the smell of burning brake disks enters the passenger saloon. It's because the fresh air inlet for the air conditioning is near the brakes. As the class 442's use the same mark 3 coach design, unless the design was altered, it will probably effect it as well.

Ah but mk3 coaches automatically shut the air intake off when the brakes are applied. So if the louvre is working properly ie not seized or a u/s solenoid then this shouldn't happen. (Smell of burning/brake dust)

 

[Zoidberg]

Ah but mk3 coaches automatically shut the air intake off when the brakes are applied. So if the louvre is working properly ie not seized or a u/s solenoid then this shouldn't happen. (Smell of burning/brake dust)

I did laugh! Close off the air intake when braking instead of relocating the air intake. What a fudge.

 

[Harbon 1]

Was it the brakes? The HST's (and loco hauled Mk3s as well I think) have a problem where the smell of burning brake disks enters the passenger saloon. It's because the fresh air inlet for the air conditioning is near the brakes. As the class 442's use the same mark 3 coach design, unless the design was altered, it will probably effect it as well.

That's when they have new brake blocks fitted

 

[ryan125hst]

Ah but mk3 coaches automatically shut the air intake off when the brakes are applied. So if the louvre is working properly ie not seized or a u/s solenoid then this shouldn't happen. (Smell of burning/brake dust)

Do they fail often. I've been on at least two HST's where I have smelt it?

 

[jopsuk]

On an HST, it is of course always possible that the smell is coming in through open door windows.

 

[Ediswan]

Ah but mk3 coaches automatically shut the air intake off when the brakes are applied. So if the louvre is working properly ie not seized or a u/s solenoid then this shouldn't happen. (Smell of burning/brake dust)

Did they always have that system ? If so, there were a lot of broken ones on the midland main line in the 1980s.

 

[flymo]

Did they always have that system ? If so, there were a lot of broken ones on the midland main line in the 1980s.

And the entire HST fleet from 1978 until today.

 

[gimmea50anyday]

A hst in emergency stop will burn the brakes wether the windows or air vents are open or not and it will smell!!!! Was on a hst couple of years ago driver forgot he was approaching York (at 125 mph) when tpws kicked in. Phew!!!!

 

[Clip]

Exactly. You would hardly say that the engine in your hoover has broken would you?

What if they owned a vax or a dyson?


See,its easy to be picky isnt it.

 

[ryan125hst]

What if they owned a vax or a dyson?


See,its easy to be picky isnt it.

Someone has already pointed this out!

Just to be pig awkward and pedantic you also wouldn't say; "The motor in your British Rail Engineering Limited has broken"

You wouldn't say that the motor in your vacuum cleaner has broken then.

 

[Clip]

See, its very easy isnt it.

But there is never any real reason to get up in arms about it

 

[talltim]

The motor in my Hoover broke once. They were better when they refurbed them although it got rid of that distinctive sound

Coat

 

[michael769]

Pretty much all sets can sometimes give off a bit of smell and even visible smoke from their brakes from time to time!