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Level Crossing lesson for cyclist

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TOCDriver

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Nup, I really am convinced she was in cloud cuckoo land. Even if she had intentionally ridden around the barriers, when your mind is elsewhere, you can just about do about anything. I think she has learned her lesson
 

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It does seem entirely plausible that somebody not concentrating could just see an obstacle and absent-mindedly steer around it, without considering the reason for its presence. We all have dopey moments like that, just hopefully not when we really ought to be concentrating, like when on a road
 

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When I cycle, I'm surprisingly alert - especially on a road. I guess it's the same defensive driving I'm used to when in a car.

If some cyclists can get so complacent, they're not going to live long.
 

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When I cycle, I'm surprisingly alert - especially on a road. I guess it's the same defensive driving I'm used to when in a car.

If some cyclists can get so complacent, they're not going to live long.

I agree sir. If I was on a bike I'd be damned alert. Sorry, the more I look at it the more I see a prat that thinks they can just beat the lights. She's probably done it before and got away with it..this time she had a soiled pants moment.
 

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Bad behaviour can be found in Cardiff too (though probably to a lesser extent). Until I moved down here, I thought Red Light Jumping was starting to pedal off very early before the lights changed back to green, not breezing through without even stopping! (Oh, the innocence...)

A friend of mine (coincidentally an ATW employee) who cycles to work a lot has spent time recording some of the awful behaviour he sees in motorists and other cyclists in and around Cardiff.

http://www.youtube.com/user/Ponder65/videos

I highly recommend a watch of the compilation videos.
 

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A friend of mine (coincidentally an ATW employee) who cycles to work a lot has spent time recording some of the awful behaviour he sees in motorists and other cyclists in and around Cardiff.
I see many cyclists around London with cameras attached to their helmets. Presumably, they remove all evidence of their own failure to observe the highway code before uploading the videos to YouTube?
 

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I see many cyclists around London with cameras attached to their helmets. Presumably, they remove all evidence of their own failure to observe the highway code before uploading the videos to YouTube?
One hell of a presupposition there...
 

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Waterloo Road has a dangerous pair of pedestrian crossings outside the main Waterloo railway station - time after time I see cyclists belting through red lights without even slowing down or looking, swerving round pedestrians and being abusive to any who get in 'their' way, even if the police see it they never do anything about it!
 

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Waterloo Road has a dangerous pair of pedestrian crossings outside the main Waterloo railway station - time after time I see cyclists belting through red lights without even slowing down or looking, swerving round pedestrians and being abusive to any who get in 'their' way, even if the police see it they never do anything about it!

It's odd you say that, because whenever I've seen a cyclist go through a red light in London in front of a police officer, they've been stopped. This is good, and I speak as a law-abiding London cyclist.
 

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Same here. I've seen the police being very hot on cyclists doing things they're not supposed to do, a big favourite of theirs being to hand out tickets on the bus lane by Holborn. There's a 200 yard section of bus lane where cycles are prohibited, sending the bikes round the (far more dangerous) gyratory, and plod tend to nab anyone who ignores it.
 

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After the 26 year-old woman reported voluntarily, she was spoken to by the British Transport Police yesterday and they are now said to be considering what further action should be taken against the woman.

What options do they have?
 

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Most driving offences have parallels for cycling (careless, dangerous etc.).

And of course a level crossing signal applies to everyone, even pedestrians. There are also offences around endangering the railway.
 

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What options do they have?
The police representative in the article mentions failing to obey traffic signs and failing to stop. I was interested to find that there's an online Cycle Safe course for cyclists convicted of various traffic offences, which can be offered as an alternative to a fine.
 

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As stupid as she was, it also shows the problem of having half-barriers. Hope the train driver was ok, too.

Tobbes

Nah that isn't the problem really, its the idiots who use these level crossings.
I say let nature do its work :lol:
 

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If it wasn't for the driver, or even the slightest risk of a derailment, I'd have totally agreed!
 

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I hope they don't take any further action. The laundry bill alone is a lesson learned for her.

You think?

Did she do the drivers laundry as well?

I hope they throw the <bleep>ing book at her! <D
--- old post above --- --- new post below ---
a law-abiding London cyclist.

No such thing is there? ;)



Only joking, its always the few bad ones who spoil it for the majority, as in most sections of the community.
 

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No such thing is there? ;)

Only joking, its always the few bad ones who spoil it for the majority, as in most sections of the community.

To be honest, I'd see where anyone (yourself included) comes from when you say that! It's a very visible minority and probably a large one which breaks the rules in certain parts of the UK. I have commuted by bike (on and off) for years, and honestly have had no reason to knowingly break the law - in central London or anywhere else in the UK that I've been on two wheels. I don't wish to spark another massive debate, but what I will say is that cyclists are responsible for finding a safe and legal way of commuting; if they don't bother, and break the law because they have planned and ridden outside of their competencies, then I have virtually no sympathy whatsoever if they "have the book thrown at them". On the other hand, it is true that the "bad ones" must not be allowed to spoil the fun or reputation of the wider cycling community.

I trust that doesn't come across as a rant to anyone. ;) In seriousness, if anyone wants specific tips about making their cycle route safer and riding legally, they're welcome to PM me for advice. But don't expect anything radical!
 
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