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mrmartin

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I suspect the signal available will be as good if not better than cities. Starlink very difficult to get working in cities with more buildings and a lot of 4G/5G congestion. Waymo works fine in SF with no real issues in the past year+ it's been commercially operating. Don't think you need a solid signal either - you're assuming the remote operator needs to always have live video. In reality you could just issue a command for the car to reverse safely 200m or whatever.

Much much harder to do AV in cities with all the potential human/bikes interfacing with the cars which is far more catastrophic if something goes wrong.

Worst case someone gets sent in a van to rescue the car. It's not the end of the world in the very rare event these happen to do this. In fact it will look very odd in the future we _couldnt_ remotely take over cars if the human in charge makes mistakes.
 
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The idea is that a human can take over for these problematic bits - it is exactly like how Waymo works. But instead of 1000 drivers for a 24/7 fleet of 300 cars you need a handful of remote operators.

No reason why this wouldn't work in rural areas. Could have 4G and then starlink backup.
You often have to nestle pretty well into the hedge when letting shiny Range Rovers past. That's not going to be easy to do remotely.
 

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In the tractor case, I guess the farmer just pushes it into the nearest ditch. :E

Seriously though, if it's going to work you'll have to make them ultra polite so they always defer and back up to the last passing point.
Which could then be fun when two meet and both end up shooting back to the previous passing place…
 

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After being on a bus yesterday where the driver had to reverse about 200m through a village to a gap in the parked cars in order to let traffic coming the other way through (several vehicles including motortrikes towing trailers), I dread to think how an autonomous vehicle would have handled that situation...
Absolutely right .
Bus driver was lucky that he / she could reverse in the first place with no traffic at rear .
I wonder how autonomous vehicle is going to negotiate with other drivers behind, on windy country lane, trying to reverse to let incoming traffic pass .
 

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Absolutely right .
Bus driver was lucky that he / she could reverse in the first place with no traffic at rear .
I wonder how autonomous vehicle is going to negotiate with other drivers behind, on windy country lane, trying to reverse to let incoming traffic pass .
I can't even be sure that she didn't have to wait for a car behind to get out of the way – we sat in a stalemate for about a minute or so before backing up.
There's a good reason why autonomous vehicles have only really been used in business parks and US cities so far!
 
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