King Charles III Coronation

[gswindale]

Apart from the government and the armed forces no.

Whilst Charles is technically "Commander in Chief" (I think I've got the role right), will he be the one pressing the scary big red button with "Annihilate the Planet" on it? I suspect not.

If you go down the US route, then the President does have that capability I believe, but here we have a Head Of State that is more geared up towards being a relatively apolitical constant.

I'm by no stretch of the imagination a fan of the monarchy, but electing a power crazy lunatic every 4 years does not seem like a better system to me - that's part of the reason why I don't believe that our current system of government is really working as there are too many power-hungry career politicians in the House of Commons these days.

 

[GRALISTAIR]

---- there are too many power-hungry career politicians in the House of Commons these days.

Yes indeed!

 

[Intercity110]

Just started and it’s beyond words how amazing it is…truly the best thing this year and a thing I will look back on fondly.

 

[adrock1976]

Let's not forget that Charlie Windsor is an adulterer who was not even discreet about it at all.

Let's also not forget that the jewels in the crown were stolen from India (one part of Asia where we invaded, took over, colonised, and established the British Raj as part of imperialism and empire - except for the Goa Region, which Portugal took over). After Mahatma Gandhi led India (sub continent) to independence in 1947, Louis Mountbatten did such a really good job in carving it up and displacing people that ever since that event, neither the governments of present day India and Pakistan have ever agreed on what should happen with the region of Kashmir.

Also, Jamaica together with Antigua and Barbuda (one of the parts of the Caribbean where we invaded, took over, and colonised as part of imperialism and empire) are having serious discussions to sever ties with the monarchy and become republics since Charlie's mum passed away last year. Furthermore, to the best of my knowledge, the Windrush scandal has yet to be resolved (unless it already has been done quietly).

Bermuda (another Caribbean island we invaded and took over) became a republic in 2021.

 

[87electric]

While I am not a monarchist and don't go in for adulation of the royals, King Charles doesn't annoy me, because he isn't trying to (badly) dictate our lives and lifestyle. People like Johnson, Truss and Sunak annoy me infinitely more than any member of the royal family.

Charlie and his speech advocating for the Great Reset on behalf of the World Economic Forum is an example of his power in this world. You have to break a system before building it back (better) and by God are all of us peasants feeling this right now. I find it insane that cheering on an event like today but not understanding the plight ahead, very concerning. Turkeys and Christmas and all that.

 

[Yew]

Just to check, does this mean that King Charles has single-handedly won the Champions League?

 

[dangie]

Let's not forget that Charlie Windsor is an adulterer who was not even discreet about it at all.

Let's also not forget that the jewels in the crown were stolen from India (one part of Asia where we invaded, took over, colonised, and established the British Raj as part of imperialism and empire - except for the Goa Region, which Portugal took over). After Mahatma Gandhi led India (sub continent) to independence in 1947, Louis Mountbatten did such a really good job in carving it up and displacing people that ever since that event, neither the governments of present day India and Pakistan have ever agreed on what should happen with the region of Kashmir.

Also, Jamaica together with Antigua and Barbuda (one of the parts of the Caribbean where we invaded, took over, and colonised as part of imperialism and empire) are having serious discussions to sever ties with the monarchy and become republics since Charlie's mum passed away last year. Furthermore, to the best of my knowledge, the Windrush scandal has yet to be resolved (unless it already has been done quietly).

Bermuda (another Caribbean island we invaded and took over) became a republic in 2021.

…… and your point is…..?

 

[birchesgreen]

I loved the Byzantine hymn while they were presenting the regalia, that was pretty cool.

 

[43096]

Just to check, does this mean that King Charles has single-handedly won the Champions League?

 

[GusB]

It's not exactly unexpected, but BBC1, BBC2 and BBC News 24 are simulcasting the same thing. There is no other news today. Nothing else matters

 

[DerekC]

If we did have a presidency, I'd want it to have absolutely no executive power. Just a figurehead, someone suitable to walk up the red carpet on state visits and not make any gaffes. A bit like the monarchy really, just cut price.

That's a bit pointless. One of the problems with the monarchy, which became blindingly obvious during the Brexit crisis and the Johnson farce, is that the monarch turns out to have no constraining power on a rogue Prime Minister. The whole point of a presidency/head of state separate from the executive is that it should act in favour of stability and the long term good of the nation, which monarchists say the monarch does, but in fact they lack any levers to achieve (other than to be consulted and ignored). I think personally that Charles as Prince of Wales was a force for good, but he will now find he can make no difference at all.

 

[najaB]

Bermuda (another Caribbean island we invaded and took over) became a republic in 2021.

Please learn the difference between Bermuda and Barbados. It is highly insulting and disrespectful to conflate the two.

We are two completely different countries, one of which isn't even in the Caribbean.

 

[Gloster]

I thought it was Belize that was considering independence.

 

[simonw]

I thought it was Belize that was considering independence.

I think you will find Belize has been independent since 1981.

 

[Gloster]

I think you will find Belize has been independent since 1981.

Well, removing Charles as head of state then.

 

[Purple Train]

I loved the Byzantine hymn while they were presenting the regalia, that was pretty cool.

Agreed.
I thought the BBC commentary was excellently done as well, informative without being invasive.

 

[dangie]

Just started and it’s beyond words how amazing it is…truly the best thing this year and a thing I will look back on fondly.

Well he’s just arrived back at the palace. I have to say that was a right good show. Very impressive.

 

[McRhu]

Loved it. While my indulgence may be tinged with a touch of vicarious, I do love the glamour and pomp and history and the banners and the uniforms and the colours and the jewels and the ornamentation and the tradition and so on. Even my Sky Glass tv got into the spirit of things by staying on the whole time instead of turning itself off periodically as is its wont. God Save the King.

 

[GS250]

That's a bit pointless. One of the problems with the monarchy, which became blindingly obvious during the Brexit crisis and the Johnson farce, is that the monarch turns out to have no constraining power on a rogue Prime Minister. The whole point of a presidency/head of state separate from the executive is that it should act in favour of stability and the long term good of the nation, which monarchists say the monarch does, but in fact they lack any levers to achieve (other than to be consulted and ignored). I think personally that Charles as Prince of Wales was a force for good, but he will now find he can make no difference at all.

Isn't that the reason why the Monarchy is respected by many though? The fact it doesn't get involved in politics? Why would the Queen have been the slightest bit interested in trying to influence Brexit out of interest? It was a democratic vote. Her only interest may have been to ensure it was followed through.

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Loved it. While my indulgence may be tinged with a touch of vicarious, I do love the glamour and pomp and history and the banners and the uniforms and the colours and the jewels and the ornamentation and the tradition and so on. Even my Sky Glass tv got into the spirit of things by staying on the whole time instead of turning itself off periodically as is its wont. God Save the King.

Yes enjoyed it too. Brilliantly organised and as per usual the armed forces doing their bits to perfection.

Even my dad though (who's a royalist) was hinting that Charles should have passed it on to William. He'd have been a more popular Monarch and been readily accepted by the public. Charles will only ever really be a 'caretaker' King.

 

[adrock1976]

Please learn the difference between Bermuda and Barbados. It is highly insulting and disrespectful to conflate the two.

We are two completely different countries, one of which isn't even in the Caribbean.

My apologies - I always get those two mixed up.

 

[Deepgreen]

I don't normally go to the 'General' forums here, but, as a transport enthusiast, I was miffed to see huge behind-the-scenes preparations for the flypast when it was blindingly obvious as early as yesterday that the weather would preclude the grand one that had been planned. However, numerous aircraft were still sent from Brize Norton to circle over the North Sea for hours beforehand, in a futile exercise that must have cost millions. Even the most amateur meteorologist could see from a glance at any real-time weather radar web site that the whole day would be one of rain and very low cloud with no breaks whatsoever, so why was it thought necessary to send up at least ten planes (3 x Hercules, 3 x Typhoon, C17, A330 Tanker, and numerous business jets) when there was no chance of them being deployed? Being prepared is one thing, but this was pure, easily-avoidable waste.

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Agreed.
I thought the BBC commentary was excellently done as well, informative without being invasive.

Yes, but I was amazed at the frequent sound drop-outs - surely for an occasion like this, the technical side has to be bullet-proof. I don't know if other channels suffered this but it was very poor.

 

[yorksrob]

If you look at our fellow European constitutional monarchies - Sweden, Denmark, The Netherlands etc, they seem to be stable wealthy countries. Not a bad club to be in.

 

[McRhu]

Even my dad though (who's a royalist) was hinting that Charles should have passed it on to William. He'd have been a more popular Monarch and been readily accepted by the public. Charles will only ever really be a 'caretaker' King.

My prediction: William's coronation in 5 to 6 years' time and (unfortunately) that'll be the last I'm afraid.

 

[AlterEgo]

I thought it was an excellent and compelling event and I liked seeing new traditions be born. The gospel singers were a personal highlight who brought some much needed levity!

 

[GS250]

Yes, but I was amazed at the frequent sound drop-outs - surely for an occasion like this, the technical side has to be bullet-proof. I don't know if other channels suffered this but it was very poor.

Glad it wasn't just me then! Yes that was rather irritating. Kept restarting my sound bar as thought it was that giving up the ghost.

My prediction: William's coronation in 5 to 6 years' time and (unfortunately) that'll be the last I'm afraid.

I think you may be right. Let William enjoy his time with his young family for a few more years and then hand the baton over.

That was one practical flaw in the Queen's latter years strategy. In carrying on so long she's distorted the age of which the new Monarch would be coronated. Maybe she knew the public weren't overly sold on Charles though?

At least if William is given a chance in the next 5 or so years I may yet get to see another Jubilee!!!

 

[najaB]

My prediction: William's coronation in 5 to 6 years' time and (unfortunately) that'll be the last I'm afraid.

I think the same, though I expect Charles' reign will be 10 to 15 years.

 

[simonw]

Glad it wasn't just me then! Yes that was rather irritating. Kept restarting my sound bar as thought it was that giving up the ghost.


I think you may be right. Let William enjoy his time with his young family for a few more years and then hand the baton over.

That was one practical flaw in the Queen's latter years strategy. In carrying on so long she's distorted the age of which the new Monarch would be coronated. Maybe she knew the public weren't overly sold on Charles though?

At least if William is given a chance in the next 5 or so years I may yet get to see another Jubilee!!!

The same can be said of Victoria, however the monarch (we can debate whether we should've should not have one) reigns for life. I can't see any reason for Charles to change this and abdicate.

Personally, I found the whole ceremony anachronistic and out of touch.

The gospel singers were the one bright spot.

 

[GS250]

The same can be said of Victoria, however the monarch (we can debate whether we should've should not have one) reigns for life. I can't see any reason for Charles to change this and abdicate.

Personally, I found the whole ceremony anachronistic and out of touch.

The gospel singers were the one bright spot.

Take politics out of it....for me the bright spot was Penny Mordaunt.

I'm not entirely convinced King Charles was only staring at the sword that she handed him....

 

[Yew]

Personally, I found the whole ceremony anachronistic and out of touch.

I did find myself thinking that I have no problem with the King also being the head of the Church of England, but it felt like they should be separate metaphorical hats; whereas at the moment the ceremony felt very coupled to the 'the King must be Protestant and head of the Church", if that makes sense.

 

[GRALISTAIR]

It's not exactly unexpected, but BBC1, BBC2 and BBC News 24 are simulcasting the same thing. There is no other news today. Nothing else matters

I know. There should be some choice. If BBC1 shows it then BBC2 should not imho.