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Kinchbus are hosting a series of events promoting their recent increase in frequency to their Skylink (Leicester - Derby) service.

They were in Derby yesterday (29th May), Loughborough Market Square today (30th May) and East Midlands Airport tomorrow (31st May) between 09:00 and 16:00 all days.
 
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Kinchbus are hosting a series of events promoting their recent increase in frequency to their Skylink (Leicester - Derby) service.

They were in Derby yesterday (29th May), Loughborough Market Square today (30th May) and East Midlands Airport tomorrow (31st May) between 09:00 and 16:00 all days.
The important question is....are there any freebies?
 

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I ended up buying Optare Tempo YJ07 VST - little did I know when studying Transport Management at Loughborough and seeing it daily on the 11 and 12 that it would be part of my fleet 10 years later. Sadly, I scrapped it recently as the engine lost its oil. Great bus though!
 

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I ended up buying Optare Tempo YJ07 VST - little did I know when studying Transport Management at Loughborough and seeing it daily on the 11 and 12 that it would be part of my fleet 10 years later. Sadly, I scrapped it recently as the engine lost its oil. Great bus though!

In my day it was Trent Leyland Nationals. Wish I’d bought one of those……..
 

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In my day it was Trent Leyland Nationals. Wish I’d bought one of those……..
I wish I could get 650 and start building a Skylink collection, but it's unfortunately just a fantasy. As it is, I'm surprised that 650 and 651 are still parked up at the depot's entrance for over a year now.
 

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I wish I could get 650 and start building a Skylink collection, but it's unfortunately just a fantasy. As it is, I'm surprised that 650 and 651 are still parked up at the depot's entrance for over a year now.
I had a chat with the Skylink team leader and he mentioned both of those vehicles are pretty much bare inside.

Another thing he mentioned is that 109, 174 and 175 are part of the Skylink fleet and won't appear on other routes. They are going back to Trentbarton once Kinch get new Skylink vehicles (There's nothing explicitly planned yet, but the Skylink ADLs will need replacing in the near future due to their ridiculous mileage). The 13 branded ADLs as well as the aforementioned three Mango liveried ADLs cover the peak vehicle requirement of 16, there's 3 branded YX20 Skylink ADLs off the road at the moment. (fortunately not any of the ones I need photos of!)
 

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I had a chat with the Skylink team leader and he mentioned both of those vehicles are pretty much bare inside.

Another thing he mentioned is that 109, 174 and 175 are part of the Skylink fleet and won't appear on other routes. They are going back to Trentbarton once Kinch get new Skylink vehicles (There's nothing explicitly planned yet, but the Skylink ADLs will need replacing in the near future due to their ridiculous mileage). The 13 branded ADLs as well as the aforementioned three Mango liveried ADLs cover the peak vehicle requirement of 16, there's 3 branded YX20 Skylink ADLs off the road at the moment. (fortunately not any of the ones I need photos of!)
Yes, when people think about which routes will get the new buses, it is easy to forget the mileage the Kinchbus Skylink Enviros clock up. I looked at the last mileage of Skylink bus 146 and Rainbow One route 158 as they were new about the same time. Significant difference in mileage, with Skylink being 24/7. Strangely one shows mileage in km. But the difference in mileage is significantly higher.
 

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Yes, when people think about which routes will get the new buses, it is easy to forget the mileage the Kinchbus Skylink Enviros clock up. I looked at the last mileage of Skylink bus 146 and Rainbow One route 158 as they were new about the same time. Significant difference in mileage, with Skylink being 24/7. Strangely one shows mileage in km. But the difference in mileage is significantly higher.
And the Skylink is the big moneymaker. I would have thought that the Sprint was too, but perhaps it isn't given that it's had the same buses ever since it was named the Sprint!
 

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Something I spotted at the weekend which I wasn't aware of: It seems that on Saturdays (daytime) Skylink Derby now has more journeys between Derby Rail Station and Derby Bus Station than Arriva, four buses per hour against Arriva's three.

However, Skylink has difficulty keeping to time on inward journeys to Derby and the Arriva often gets to the station first even though it's timed 10 minutes after Skylink. BUT, this is very beneficial because Arriva charge £1.30 into Derby, Skylink charges the £2 capped fare.
I think that's what's known as a 'no brainer'!
 

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Something I spotted at the weekend which I wasn't aware of: It seems that on Saturdays (daytime) Skylink Derby now has more journeys between Derby Rail Station and Derby Bus Station than Arriva, four buses per hour against Arriva's three.

However, Skylink has difficulty keeping to time on inward journeys to Derby and the Arriva often gets to the station first even though it's timed 10 minutes after Skylink. BUT, this is very beneficial because Arriva charge £1.30 into Derby, Skylink charges the £2 capped fare.
I think that's what's known as a 'no brainer'!
Well thank you for telling me what Arriva charge. I did wonder. A while ago it went up from £1 to £1.10, and I actually wondered if they had increased it to £2 (after all, maybe people think it will be). I've tended to use the U1/114 with my £2 and got nearer to where I wanted to go.

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And the Skylink is the big moneymaker. I would have thought that the Sprint was too, but perhaps it isn't given that it's had the same buses ever since it was named the Sprint!
I remember when those slimline Solos were new (2007?) and entered service with Trentbarton on the Allestree routes. Very colourful.
 

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That batch of Slimlines (1-7) have always been on the sprint
Sorry, they haven't. They worked for Trentbarton on the Allestree route in Kinchbus livery before they went to Kinchbus. They were covering for Allestree Solos that were being overhauled all at the same time. 460-465 batch. Circa July 2007. I travelled on them on that route
 

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Sorry, they haven't. They worked for Trentbarton on the Allestree route in Kinchbus livery before they went to Kinchbus. They were covering for Allestree Solos that were being overhauled all at the same time. 460-465 batch. Circa July 2007. I travelled on them on that route
Ah, thanks for the clarification. That's me doing 3.5 minutes of flickr research; apologies!
 

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And the Skylink is the big moneymaker. I would have thought that the Sprint was too, but perhaps it isn't given that it's had the same buses ever since it was named the Sprint!

The Sprint is part funded by Loughborough University, as it’s free to use within the university and college areas. It must be profitable for the operator!
 

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Ah, thanks for the clarification. That's me doing 3.5 minutes of flickr research; apologies!
I did have a look on Flickr for one, but could not find any pictures to link. I used to get on them and think they seemed narrow. Had a bell ring that sounded like the Avon Lady calling. Ding dong
 

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Yes, when people think about which routes will get the new buses, it is easy to forget the mileage the Kinchbus Skylink Enviros clock up. I looked at the last mileage of Skylink bus 146 and Rainbow One route 158 as they were new about the same time. Significant difference in mileage, with Skylink being 24/7. Strangely one shows mileage in km. But the difference in mileage is significantly higher.
In effect, this will mean the entire Kinchbus fleet is replaced soon - the rest of the Kinch allocation will be replaced by the ZEBRA-funded electric fleet that is doubtless to be ordered in due course.

Quite the improvement, this will be...
 

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In effect, this will mean the entire Kinchbus fleet is replaced soon - the rest of the Kinch allocation will be replaced by the ZEBRA-funded electric fleet that is doubtless to be ordered in due course.

Quite the improvement, this will be...
Might that not see the entire fleet needing replacement again at the same time, some years into the future?
 

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Might that not see the entire fleet needing replacement again at the same time, some years into the future?
Not really - a good many will still need to be allocated to 2, 5, 9, 11, 12 etc with others on Sprint and Skylink. All very different mileages.
 
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In effect, this will mean the entire Kinchbus fleet is replaced soon - the rest of the Kinch allocation will be replaced by the ZEBRA-funded electric fleet that is doubtless to be ordered in due course.

Quite the improvement, this will be...
I understand that 21 vehicles that are being ordered for Kinchbus to electrify every route except Skylink Derby.
 

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That is correct. I spoke to the Skylink team leader and he essentially said exactly what you have. Their mileage is just ridiculous at their age, they’ll need cascading onto less intensive routes
That must be where I got the info from then, your original comment.
 

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I understand that 21 vehicles that are being ordered for Kinchbus to electrify every route except Skylink Derby.
Perhaps they should order more drivers too, so that they can return to operating all these other routes.
 

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Yellow Skylink is running a full peak vehicle requirement of 16 for the first time in god knows how long. 107 is back on the road as of yesterday evening after being off the road for just over a month
 

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Yellow Skylink is running a full peak vehicle requirement of 16 for the first time in god knows how long. 107 is back on the road as of yesterday evening after being off the road for just over a month
I'd imagine they'd have seen how important it was with Download Festival taking place
 

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Yellow Skylink is running a full peak vehicle requirement of 16 for the first time in god knows how long. 107 is back on the road as of yesterday evening after being off the road for just over a month
It included a Solo though, I saw one working into Derby yesterday (Wed) at about 1730 but couldn't see the number.
Totally unsuitable for a service such as Skylink, not only with Download being on but given the number of Amazon workers who travel to and from Castle Donington at peak times.
 

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It included a Solo though, I saw one working into Derby yesterday (Wed) at about 1730 but couldn't see the number.
Totally unsuitable for a service such as Skylink, not only with Download being on but given the number of Amazon workers who travel to and from Castle Donington at peak times.
Would be 501. 498 and 502 were in use on the 9 yesterday. Only 501 carries Kinchbus livery, the others are Mangoes.
 
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