invalid railcard

[anglo477288266]

So they won’t make a decision off the outcome of the situation in the first letter- just to explain the tickets I’ve purchased? Thankfully they didn’t catch me with the oyster so they can’t investigate that I’m presuming?

 

[MotCO]

Think of it from their point of view. Inspectors caught you with an invalid ticket. They stop lots of people like you. Why would they think it would be worth their while looking at your Oyster usage as well - they don't even know if you have got an Oyster, whether it is registered in your name, address etc etc. If you didn't mention your Oyster when you were caught, they will be none the wiser.

 

[anglo477288266]

Just overthinking apologies just hoping it doesn’t escalate to being prosecuted. I’ve only been using Trainline the past 2 weeks so shouldn’t be over 400 pounds. I have a question they won’t issue the out of court settlement or make a conclusion on the first letter?

 

[Fawkes Cat]

. I have a question they won’t issue the out of court settlement or make a conclusion on the first letter?

It varies from case to case. But I would expect the railway to come to a decision when they have all the information they think they need, or when they have all the information they think they are going to get. It's worth remembering that neither of these tests are the same as having all the information that could be out there.

 

[SECR 65]

(I'm afraid I haven't read the whole 4 page thread so don't know details or even what Train Operating Company this is.)

I have a question they won’t issue the out of court settlement or make a conclusion on the first letter?

Most companies will write to you to ask what happened, then their response to your reply may offer and out of court settlement.

If this is GTR or SWR, then that's almost certainly what will happen.

 

[Trainman40083]

(I'm afraid I haven't read the whole 4 page thread so don't know details or even what Train Operating Company this is.)

Most companies will write to you to ask what happened, then their response to your reply may offer and out of court settlement.

If this is GTR or SWR, then that's almost certainly what will happen.

Appears to be SWR from the first post .

 

[anglo477288266]

do they send a letter to my email too because i may be moving houses within the next few months?

 

[Fawkes Cat]

do they send a letter to my email too because i may be moving houses within the next few months?

There's no guarantee of them using email - you will need to make sure you can still receive paper post. So if you move you will have to
- make sure that the railway prosecutions people have details of your new address and/or
- set up postal redirection through the Royal Mail - see https://www.royalmail.com/personal/receiving-mail/redirection for how to do this.

 

[anglo477288266]

I should get my first letter within the next 6 weeks if i got caught on the 30th august or is it too soon?

 

[AlterEgo]

We don't know when it will come. It can vary significantly. Either way you should get a mail redirection set up if you're moving.

 

[anglo477288266]

I don't know where i should redirect it to

 

[Titfield]

I don't know where i should redirect it to

You mean you don't know where you will be residing?

 

[WesternLancer]

I don't know where i should redirect it to

Ideally you would have the post redirected by Royal Mail to a reliable UK address where you know you can easily get post and it can safely be received - preferably of course where you are going to be living yourself (unless you are leaving the UK?). I suppose a trusted family member or friend's UK address could be a fall back as an alternative, as they could tell you about any post received, and you could go and get it from them, or if you were happy for them to do so, open it and scan or photograph it and e-mail it to you for example.

Of course these have to be viable suggestions for you.

 

[SuspectUsual]

Presumably the TOCs must have a process for dealing with people of no fixed abode?

In this case I think the OP has given an address but now realises they won’t be there, what would happen if they contacted the train company and said I’m about to become homeless?

 

[WesternLancer]

Presumably the TOCs must have a process for dealing with people of no fixed abode?

In this case I think the OP has given an address but now realises they won’t be there, what would happen if they contacted the train company and said I’m about to become homeless?

You might hope that if the person concerned contacted them and explained this, and requested that e-mail would be a useful way to make contact, at least initially, they would then actually use e-mail. If they have systems internally that can be suitably flexible to achieve that.

 

[SuspectUsual]

You might hope that if the person concerned contacted them and explained this, and requested that e-mail would be a useful way to make contact, at least initially, they would then actually use e-mail. If they have systems internally that can be suitably flexible to achieve that.

You’d hope so. After all, I don’t think it’s a requirement to have a postal address to travel by train

 

[anglo477288266]

Is there a way I can collect it from a post office- i provided the inspector with my email

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?

 

[WesternLancer]

Is there a way I can collect it from a post office- i provided the inspector with my email

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I don’t know but you could go to your local post office and ask if any service like that is provided.

 

[SuspectUsual]

https://www.postoffice.co.uk/mail/poste-restante