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I've had a Netgear router for years, now I've moved house and have cable, I just got the cable version of the router I had at my old house. Pretty good it is too.
Have to say, having Belkin and Netgear products, I prefer the Netgear.
I do happen to have a Netgear device on my network as well...A Sky branded NG-834 which I'm using as a network switch to cut down on the cabling in one of my clusters! :D

Unfortunateley I can't really say anything positive for Netgear's stuff...The firmware on the '834 was some kind of b@stardised crap commissioned by Sky (It was originally a Sky broadband router) and the thing would not allow access to any form of diagnostic or configuration interface (Forget about Telnetting! :roll:) so I couldn't even set any kind of firewall configuration or port-forwarding on it! <(

After a few weeks of playing around with the thing and gettingly increasingly aggrevated with it, I decided to "convert" it to a switch so that at least it would be half useful in one capacity...And after forcably removing the mini-PCI wifi card, flash chip and Broadcom processor from the thing, it's been perfect as a switch (And 100% reliable) ever since! 8)
(Aye, I did just say that I removed the routers CPU and firmware storage...But the NG-834 uses a "switch on a chip" that is completely self-contained. Despite a lot of damage to the routers PCB, the switch part of it is fine and does work perfectly! :D;))
 
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You're hit and miss with netgear, tbh. Some are pretty good, some are bad. Depends a lot on the firmware. Tiscali/Homechoice netgears were a major problem I remember, but I've used one and have no complaints, and a few friends also have them and, again, no problems.
 

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You're hit and miss with netgear, tbh. Some are pretty good, some are bad. Depends a lot on the firmware. Tiscali/Homechoice netgears were a major problem I remember, but I've used one and have no complaints, and a few friends also have them and, again, no problems.
Well, I certainly can't say anything good about Sky's offering wherever Netgear equipment is concerned! I mean, displaying a warning screen and/or some kind of "expert user verification" before serving advanced configuration pages would be fine...But blocking all users - No matter how experienced - From router configuration options (And everything else for that matter!) is just bang out of order and smacks of Apple communism, IMO! <(

One thing I have often wondered though is why there seems to be an odd historical difference between the equipment provided by different types of broadband providers. Consider the following points for a moment:
  • ADSL (Broadband over phone lines) providers often give the customer a broadband router with which to access their service. Now aside from being just a "router", the device will normally be comprised of a 10/100mbps wired ethernet switch, 802.11A/B/G wifi card (Optional), ADSL-Ethernet modem, and a multi-functional RISC processor that runs DHCP/routing/network firmware and links the other bits together...
    Therefore, a typical ADSL router forms a network in it's own right.
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  • On the other hand, Cable providers often give the customer a cable modem to allow service provision. Now this cable "modem" in my experience has often proven to be more like a network bridge and not a true "modem"...But either way the cable modem often performs no routing or similar functions, and will generally allow only one device (PC, VoIP phone, XBox 360 etc.) to access the Internet at a time.
    As a result: To form a network on a cable connection, one often needs to purchase a seperate router or other network hub device.
So my curiosity here is mainly: Why do ADSL providers supply an "all in one" device for access, whereas Cable providers make the customer purchase seperate bits of equipment? After all, if an ADSL modem can be "rolled" into a routing device, then surely a DOCSIS-standard network bridge could be integrated in the same way? :?:

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Finally: I know that this is a broadband thread, but I'm curious as to whether or not we have any forum members still using dial-up connections? The main reason behind my curiosity in this case is because earlier tonight I found that my long-redundant BT line is still apparently working (It gives a dial-tone) and I started thinking about the possibility of using it as an avenue for providing "in-house" access to my broadband connection through dial-up methods, and for remote machine control via the PSTN. :roll::)
This in turn kicked-off a succession of ideas in my mind about techniques and methods of using a dial-up connection in such an efficient manner that it might give the look and feel of a 2mbps broadband connection even with a 12.2kbps modem, and allowing multiple users to "time-share" a dial-up server on a single telephone line. :D

Now I cannot say if I will ever further this past the ideas stage, although I've already coined the acronym BBoD (Broadband over dial-up) for it...But if there was a program/service that would make it feel like ye were surfing on a proper broadband connection (Seemingly instant page loads, near instant e-mail retrieval etc.) and cut thy telephone access fees down, would ye be interested in using it? 8)<D
 
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