HS2 Consolation Prizes No Longer Speculation

[JohnElliott]

Undoubtedly some interesting ideas announced. Looks like further electrification of trans-pennine as an example.

Mentions train line reopenings in the North, although none are actually mentioned by name (Ivanhoe line is mentioned for ) so would want to know what lines they're committing to.

Similarly with the rather nebulous "rail improvements in the SW" mentioned (would have been a good opportunity to mention Tavistock).

The Government would have been in a stronger position with this announcement if it had made some attempt to run the existing railway over the past couple of years.

There is a page on gov.uk giving the full list of projects: https://www.gov.uk/government/news/find-out-about-every-new-transport-project-in-your-region

They include:

• Reopening stations: Communities in the North East will be reconnected, including a new station at Ferryhill, Co Durham. The Leamside line, closed in 1964, will also be reopened.

• Reopening train lines: Communities will be reconnected, including through the restoration of the Don Valley Line between Stocksbridge and Sheffield Victoria, and new stations at Haxby Station, near York, Waverley, near Rotherham, and the Don Valley Line from Sheffield to Stocksbridge.

• Opening more railway lines: between Cullompton and Wellington.
• A new station built at Tavistock: connecting it with Plymouth. Plus, five miles of track will be reinstated.

 

[Arkeeos]

This is unfortunately not a serious document, there is likely a poor business case for much of the reopening's, and they are uncosted and have no timescales. Liverpool Manchester Leeds connection doesn't even seem worth to give a moment of time because there just isnt anything there. Is someone seriously going to tell me that reopening the Don Valley line will have a better business case than phase 2a, really?

 

[Nottingham59]

West Midlands​

• Reopening closed Beeching lines: including the Stoke to Leek line

Sunak is going to get torn to shreds if a properly briefed journalist gets the chance to interview him on these promises.

 

[NoOldEngine]

This is unfortunately not a serious document, there is likely a poor business case for much of the reopening's, and they are uncosted and have no timescales. Liverpool Manchester Leeds connection doesn't even seem worth to give a moment of time because there just isnt anything there. Is someone seriously going to tell me that reopening the Don Valley line will have a better business case than phase 2a, really?

Probably just remodel the railway lines at Leeds and Piccadilly stations. Nothing else will happen. Don't expect anything new like additional lines or even stations.

 

[HSTEd]

Given that TPRU is now expected to top £11bn, that should provide some frame for reference of how much to expect for the various schemes.

 

[stibz]

Hi, On the subject of HS2 all the toubles come as no surprise, we can't do infrastructure at a decent cost in the uk.. anyone listened to this report

 

[Arkeeos]

Hi, On the subject of HS2 all the toubles come as no surprise, we can't do infrastructure at a decent cost in the uk.. anyone listened to this report

It basically just repeats some allegations that have already been addressed, there’s not much of worth in it.