GWR Loco Hauled Stock

[Brian Aylott]

More so because DB desperately needs some work for a class where half are already in storage!

How is 11 half of 30?
Brian

 

[CosherB]

How is 11 half of 30?
Brian

Pedant.

:roll:

 

[68011]

I thought it was already with TransPenine for testing with a class 68 loco?

It should have moved from Norwich on the 21st to Laira for refurbishment before it heads off to TPE.
It didn't happen and is still residing on Crown Point.

 

[AnthonyRail]

anymore info on whos tendering for this?

 

[PHILIPE]

anymore info on whos tendering for this?

Not even definite at the moment.

 

[superalbs]

It may have been a facebook post, but I saw that GWR will be retaining the units until 2018, having an 'impact up north'.

 

[Clarence Yard]

It may have been a facebook post, but I saw that GWR will be retaining the units until 2018, having an 'impact up north'.

That FB post looks as if it included a lift from the NAO report. Until the exact 2017/8 cascade has been worked out the use of LHCS can't be ruled out but it now doesn't look likely to be a huge number of sets.

 

[AnthonyRail]

Any update on the tender for business yet

 

[PHILIPE]

Any update on the tender for business yet

Nothing. Probably will never happen. The latest is that the Cardiff/Taunton/West of England route will be short HSTs. I have read on a Forum that there are already 4 HST coaches in Doncaster Works for Power doors to be fitted.

 

[1179_Clee2]

Nothing. Probably will never happen. The latest is that the Cardiff?Taunton/West of England route will be short HSTs. I have read on a Forum that there are already 4 HST coaches in Doncaster Works for Power doors to be fitted.

According to Rail Express magazine
2 Cross Country coaches have gone 42036 and 42370
2 First group owned coaches have gone 42168 and 44055
Door mods AND CET mods

 

[AnthonyRail]

Shame was hoping we would finally get loco hauled trains ?????? in the south west ( yes I know bout 57 summer Saturday)

Can't wait to see a IEP next to a class 43 HST

 

[Class 170101]

Can't wait to see a IEP next to a class 43 HST

As Requested
HST next to IEP at Paddington

 

[gazthomas]

As Requested
HST next to IEP at Paddington

Quite surreal!

 

[AnthonyRail]

Any more news on this. Or are the 150s staying?

 

[PHILIPE]

Any more news on this. Or are the 150s staying?

No. It seems to be a dead duck. The latest is that 2+4 HSTs will be used on the routes between Cardiff, Taunton and Penzance.

 

[co-tr-paul]

Any more news on this. Or are the 150s staying?

See post 297 on GWR Night Riviera updates thread.

 

[AnthonyRail]

Don't understand the need for IEP programme then if HST stay

 

[sprinterguy]

Don't understand the need for IEP programme then if HST stay

Electric trains are required to operate the (partially) electrified GWML, and the Hitachi trains can improve journey times and increase capacity. The HSTs are forty years old, making all of Great Western's HST sets PRM TSI compliant by 2020 would be a huge undertaking, and half of them (in terms of power cars, less in terms of total vehicles) are earmarked for use by Scotrail.

 

[PHILIPE]

Don't understand the need for IEP programme then if HST stay

But they are not staying for what is currently HST work. These will be replaced by IEPs.

 

[AnthonyRail]

See post 297 on GWR Night Riviera updates thread.

#297 mentions nothing about it, don't think.

 

[Clarence Yard]

The retention of the 14 cl.153 units till at least January 2018 now means LHCS is no longer required.

 

[PHILIPE]

The retention of the 14 cl.153 units till at least January 2018 now means LHCS is no longer required.

Not sure that this had a direct influence on the LHCS but the supposed decision to use the short HSTs on the route

 

[Clarence Yard]

Not sure that this had a direct influence on the LHCS but the supposed decision to use the short HSTs on the route

No - it was the DMU shortfall prior to the Didcot switch on that was driving the LHCS requirement. The short HST units, apart from the prototype unit, were (and are) not due in service until late 2018.

Now that the 143 and 153 units are being retained for longer and the cascade of the bulk of the 150/1 units to Northern has been put back, the stock shortfall during 2017 will no longer exist.

 

[PHILIPE]

All talk of LHCS had gone quiet. Still I'm not going to expect anything now until it happens as there have been so many changes of plan due to slippages, the main one being electrification.

 

[Kite159]

With the delays caused by the wiring, could the Summer Saturday 57 hauled extra be making a comeback this summer?

 

[PHILIPE]

With the delays caused by the wiring, could the Summer Saturday 57 hauled extra be making a comeback this summer?

Should do. The Sleeper will be running and the wires not affecting Cornwall.

 

[AnthonyRail]

Should do. The Sleeper will be running and the wires not affecting Cornwall.

Hope so, only had the 57 from Newton abbot to dawlish
Last year. Plymouth to Exeter return run hopeful this year. Great value on £10 Devon rover ticket

 

[co-tr-paul]

As posted on its own thread a while back, summer Saturday trips will be on for this year but probably the last season subject to cascade timing.

 

[absolutelymilk]

Someone has put on Wikipedia that this month's Modern Railways is reporting (p. 67) that GWR will

retain 24 powercars and 48 carriages to form 11 four-carriage sets for use on local services between Cardiff and Penzance. These will be fitted with automatic doors and controlled emission toilets to allow there operation beyond 2020 at Doncaster Works.

Is this correct?

 

[43096]

Someone has put on Wikipedia that this month's Modern Railways is reporting (p. 67) that GWR will

Is this correct?

No official confirmation, but yes, it is.

4 GW trailers are at Wabtec as the first conversions.