Glasgow Ticketing - Anniesland/Jordanhill

[Breamish]

I live close to two stations in Glasgow: Anniesland and Jordanhill. I quite often take the train into the City Centre, either Glasgow Central or Glasgow Queen Street - the ticket is valid to either. Most of the time I'd get a return from Anniesland, which costs £3 (same as a single, curiously). A return from Jordanhill to Glasgow Cen/Qst is £2.90.

Anniesland is an especailly handy station because it serves 3 lines: the North Clyde line, which goes through Queen Street Low Level, the Argyle Line, which goes through Central Low Level, and the Maryhill Line which goes runs between Anniesland and Queen Street High Level - for this, we'll ignore the Maryhill Line as it's usually slower to get back. I've attached a very crude diagram of the stations and lines of interest.

Sometimes when I'm in the city ready to head home, I'll check the train times and I can get unlucky and have a bit of a longer wait back to Anniesland from whichever of the two stations I'm closest too. However, there might be a train that stops at Jordanhill from Central, which as I mentioned, is close to home too. My question is - is my Anniesland to Glasgow (Any) return ticket valid to get off at Jordanhill? Or would I have to get off at the previous stop (Hyndland) as I could in theory change onto a train for Anniesland there? I have got off at Jordanhill before, and honestly, I don't think any conductor would care (they're super friendly!) as I've got the more expensive ticket and they're so cheap in any case. It would seem a bit outrageous to have to get another single ticket for the way back.

In addition, somewhat related - does anyone know if the Central/Queen Street tickets are valid at any other stations near the centre? E.g. Charing Cross, Argyle Street, High Steet, etc? Where do you even find this out, where is the "rulebook"?

Essentially this just highlights to me the need for tap-on, tap-off like London!

 

[Dewedin]

Tickets to Anniesland from Glasgow Central/Queen Street are not valid to Jordanhill and vice versa unless there is some 'local' easement I am unaware of. A new single from Hyndland would be needed (or previous stop if the train doesn't stop at Hyndland).

A ticket to Dalmuir would obviously be valid to both but don't think that's cheaper.

Tickets are valid to start/stop short at any station before Central/Queen Street but not after. If you already hold a ticket you should be able to buy an over-distance excess or obtain a zero fare excess if the fares are the same (e.g. if travelling to Argyle Street). Do this before travelling where possible. If not possible at your origin then must be obtained on the train as excesses may not be available once you have reached your destination.

 

[Breamish]

Tickets to Anniesland from Glasgow Central/Queen Street are not valid to Jordanhill and vice versa unless there is some 'local' easement I am unaware of. A new single from Hyndland would be needed (or previous stop if the train doesn't stop at Hyndland).

A ticket to Dalmuir would obviously be valid to both but don't think that's cheaper.

Tickets are valid to start/stop short at any station before Central/Queen Street but not after. If you already hold a ticket you should be able to buy an over-distance excess or obtain a zero fare excess if the fares are the same (e.g. if travelling to Argyle Street). Do this before travelling where possible. If not possible at your origin then must be obtained on the train as excesses may not be available once you have reached your destination.

Thanks for this - answer is as I suspected. The next time this happens, I'll try to ask the conductor if they're generally ok with letting people do that, or if they're strict enough to enforce getting off at Hyndland/paying the extra fare. I suspect most won't mind.

I understand the justification, but Jordanhill is immediately after the junction, and costs less, so doesn't really help flexibility.

 

[Hadders]

Historically there is a local Scottish Routeing Guide that list a number of easements like this for adjacent stations but Anniesland and Jordanhill aren't on the list.

 

[lewisdicks]

As someone in the same position location wise, most ticket inspectors just tell you to change at Hyndland, but it's at discretion. At the end of the day it's only a 10p difference so do it to suit your travel plans and odds are you're unlikely to be challenged. I myself usually buy from Anniesland but if there's a Jordanhill train that would get me back sooner I would stay on.

On your second question, it's a bit of a tricky one but generally depends on direction of travel. High Street does not have barriers but does have staff checking tickets at peak times. Argyle Street has barriers and I think tickets are accepted on them now when marked as central/queen street. Safest bet is to purchase the end point as Argyle Street or High Street if needed.

 

[Breamish]

As someone in the same position location wise, most ticket inspectors just tell you to change at Hyndland, but it's at discretion. At the end of the day it's only a 10p difference so do it to suit your travel plans and odds are you're unlikely to be challenged. I myself usually buy from Anniesland but if there's a Jordanhill train that would get me back sooner I would stay on.

On your second question, it's a bit of a tricky one but generally depends on direction of travel. High Street does not have barriers but does have staff checking tickets at peak times. Argyle Street has barriers and I think tickets are accepted on them now when marked as central/queen street. Safest bet is to purchase the end point as Argyle Street or High Street if needed.

Howdy neighbour! Thanks for information. That's what I'd expect most inspectors to say, and on the occasion that they catch you between Hyndland and Jordanhill, I'm sure a "woops, I thought this was the Anniesland train, how much do I owe" would probably get you off with it, especially because by the time they worked it out, you'd be getting off, given how close Jordanhill is to Hyndland.

Thought so on the point about Argyle/High Street. It would just be nice to have a bit more flexibility in this system given how close many of the stations around the city are to one another. I should be able to get on at Anniesland, get off at Queen Street, wander around, get on at Argyle Street and head to Jordanhill, all without really worrying about my ticket being valid, and it should cost roughly what a return from Anniesland to Central costs, given the very small differences in all the fares.