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Gizmogle's Cool Wall

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Gizmogle

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Totally copying Dennis, but ah well :)

Here's my cool wall. There's probably loads that I've missed out, but oh well, I only did it cause I got bored.

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Fotopic's image quality is seriously uncool.

PS: It's all just a matter of opinion!
 
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GhostCav might have a heart-attack when he sees the bottom-left corner of the 'Cool' column :lol: As for Class 37s - you'd better have them in their own mini fridge or you, my friend, will be called a Spoon Goon.
 

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I look like such a gimp in that photo :(

I would give the 37 it's own little fridge, but I can't be bothered to photoshop a fridge :p
 

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Lets all have a vote and Arguement, 455 450 444! ARE NOT IN THE UNCOOL! :p, 150s and turbos aren't that bad....
 

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Good calls on the 156s, 170s and HSTs 8-) but 221s? Uncool? Come on! I rather like them.
 

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I am just disgusted 185's have ended up so far down, they are complete hellfire!
 

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GhostCav might have a heart-attack when he sees the bottom-left corner of the 'Cool' column :lol:


I will let her off for the 175, it's a different experience in the saloon compared to the cab! Besides the sub zero section makes up for it with most of my favs in it especially the best loco ever:lol: Class 47. Shame that some other moulded plastic stuff made it to sub zero (i.e. 222's) & 390's are not or never will be cool, its a frickin MU pretending to be a long distance train (again).

Wonders off to see if I can fit a flux capacitor to a 158, wire's it up to the vultron destination blind display unit & eagarly types in "1985"!;). Just gotta find enough green signals to get this up to 88mph & all is good.
 

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319s ARE crap!

Spooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooon Goon!

221s, uncool? Upon what basis has this opinion been formed?
 

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221s are uncool!

They're plastic and smelly, they're always full and half of them have broken tables and seats!
 

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221s are uncool!

They're plastic and smelly, they're always full and half of them have broken tables and seats!

HST Rater, she's got my vote on that.
Now- 5 coach voyager DMU, no leg room,stuffed in like sardines listening to power units squeal & randomly rattle about. No real luggage space for bikes or anything bigish.Stinks of chemical's & human faeces. Trim quality that would make a 1980's skoda owner appalled. Tilt fitted to induce vomiting & nausea to a lot of people.


Then- 8 coach rake of Mk2 d/e/f's. Plenty of legroom, plenty of space to walk about, airy feel to them. Windows!! Proper luggage space in the guards brakend, quiet apart from aircon whine & rattley light fixtures (hell dont repair that just order a new train instead). To top it all off & for the help of the younger generation a Loco on the front, yes on a passenger train.:D:D . Plus the fact it was almost always spoon hauled! ;) ;) I'll go for then thanks.

I understand your points on HST's as they were good, sad to see the proper ones going, but come on, you cant really like 221's???? (or 220's,390's etc)
 

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I do like Voyagers and to a lesser extent 390s (390s are cool in my books because I hardly ever get to go on them - seeing a 390 on my booked tickets arriving makes me excited for that pure reason of their being rare traction for my travels - and they tilt - a good reason for me to like 221s), but they are of course inferior to LHCS and HSTs.
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Yet 321s are better?! At least 319/4s have 2+2 seating!

Besides, more and more 319s are becoming pink ;)



Upon what basis has this opinion been formed?

319s are crap, based on the opinions of short trips made on them and found to be generally boring. No noise, no thrash, no enjoyment. I have yet to find one good thing about 319s.
 

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319s are crap, based on the opinions of short trips made on them and found to be generally boring. No noise, no thrash, no enjoyment. I have yet to find one good thing about 319s.

Did you not sit in the pantograph coach? IMO they are one of if not the loudest EMU in service at the moment.
 

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Now- 5 coach voyager DMU, no leg room,stuffed in like sardines listening to power units squeal & randomly rattle about. No real luggage space for bikes or anything bigish.Stinks of chemical's & human faeces. Trim quality that would make a 1980's skoda owner appalled. Tilt fitted to induce vomiting & nausea to a lot of people.

The main flaw with Voyagers is the lack of seating IMO. 4/5 cars usn't enough and, whilst it's not bad for a more frequent service, you needed the longer trains to cope with busier services. Regarding luggage, I frequently travel with an extended bass clarinet, which takes a lot of room, and Voyagers can handle them not badly when they're quiet, but I could imagine a busy train being particularly... em... hellish. But they're fine for me.

I think Voyagers are comfy, though. And I feel they have a lot of leg room. Maybe not as much as their forerunners, but I think they're well designed from that perspective. Remember, you could have 158s from Dundee to Penzance <( (Not that I dislike 158s, they're just not comfy enough for that).

Tilt; I've only experienced limited tilt on Voyagers, but it makes the hourney more comfortable for me personally. I feel as though I'm not being "pulled" around the corner as much as being "gently carried" (I know this sounds like complete b0ll0cks, just bear with me ;) )when the tilt's on.

Let's rememember that Voyagers and Pendos have revolutionised WCML travel, so let's be greatful for reduced journey times at least.

Personally, I prefer the HST. Walking from Voyager to HST makes you realise that Voyagers aren't great for their job, but they do do quite well given their limitations.

However, I have yet to smell this famous "faecal matter odour". Working with incontinent elderly people does make it less noticable in general, but I'm sure I'd notice it in an enclosed environment. Then again, I'm always in Coach D (without a toilet), so that might make a difference?
 

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Giz's choices and decisions here. Disagree then make your own and post it....

Everyone has there own feelings about what is good and what is crap so lets not have a discussion every time someone slates a piece of stock you like.

My personal opinion is anything built before 1985 goes staight into the fridge and all the new stuff doesn't even make the board (ever wondered what was in the rubbish bag at the other end ????)
 

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My personal opinion is anything built before 1985 goes staight into the fridge and all the new stuff doesn't even make the board (ever wondered what was in the rubbish bag at the other end ????)

319s were first used in the late 80s ;)
 

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so lets not have a discussion every time someone slates a piece of stock you like.

Why not? Is that not really the point of this thread?

Also, I know I've missed a few things out. 158s, 180s and 59s would all go in the cool section.

Voyagers do smell. It's much more noticable if you get a seat near the toilet, obviously. Although I've had the smell hovering around the back of the coach with me before.
 

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More to the point, how do you make one? Never heard or seen a 'cool wall' until today.

For me, 'sub zero' would include the following:

HSTs powered by Valentas
37s
158s
Voyagers and Super Voyagers
56s
92s

'Cool' would be:

180s
HSTs powered by VP185s
59s
60s
87s
90s
20s
40s
50s
57s

For 'Uncool', I'd have the following:

HSTs with 16V4000s
66s
31s
33s
08s
09s
86s

Hmm, harder to remember all of the traction classes on the spot. I'll do a full version of a 'cool wall' eventually.
 

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The "Cool Wall" is featured on Top Gear and is obviously done with cars instead of trains.

I stole the background for mine from http://www.topgear.com/jsp/coolwall/index.jsp

And then just resized some of my pictures of trains, added a border, shadowing and put the class on the border to give a polaroid effect :) Also tilted them to give a good effect.

I'm a very visual, and usually a very bored person :p
 

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Ah! That's where I've heard of Cool Wall. Thanks Gizmogle, it suddenly clicked (I had thought I'd never heard of such a thing) as soon as I read the words 'Top Gear'.

Me, however, well I'm too lazy to go and dig around all of my hundreds of photos for such a project at this time.
 
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