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I've seen recently there have been a few questions about Class 450 workings on the suburban branches and to Reading. Maybe these should be included?

The following suburban services are booked for Class 450 on weekdays:
08:36 Guildford to London Waterloo via Cobham
09:47 London Waterloo to Chessington South
10:39 Chessington South to London Waterloo
11:24 London Waterloo to Dorking
12:35 Dorking to London Waterloo

Note: Above diagram is planned to become Class 455/456 once enough 456s become available
2H95 1813 London Waterloo to Shepperton via Richmond
2H62 1906 Shepperton to London Waterloo via Kingston

Class 450 to Reading, again weekday only:
2C91 1635 London Waterloo to Reading
2C60 1812 Reading to London Waterloo


Others that may be of interest:
Now, the Hounslow line is mainly Class 450 or 458/5 on weekdays. However there are a few services using 455+455.
The following use 455s on weekdays, and there may possibly be others:
2S10 0633 Staines to London Waterloo
2V45 1607 London Waterloo to London Waterloo
2V49 1707 London Waterloo to London Waterloo

Class 456 away from Ascot-Guildford on weekdays only:
2N13 0745 Clapham Junction to Guildford via Richmond and Ascot

Of course, anyone feel free to include ones I've missed, give corrections and to give ideas on whether it is a good idea including these or not :D
--- old post above --- --- new post below ---
Thanks to whoever updated the main list :)

There was a slight error: For 455s to Hounslow, they are the booked stock on weekends, and nowhere near "no service" ;) :lol:
 

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I do have the two FGW 150/9 diagrams somewhere; I'll dig them out later :)
PM451 & PM452. If I am correct they are

PM451
2K04 06.30 BRI-SVB
2K05 07.15 SVB - BRI
2K08 08.03 BRI - AVN
2K09 08.36 AVN - BRI
2E20 11.41 BRI - GCR
2C18 12.42 GCR - FRO
2F95 14.59 FRO - WMN
2E25 15.38 WMN - GMV
2T97 18.50 GMV - BRI

PM452
2K02 05.48 BRI - AVN
2K03 06.29 AVN - BRI
2K06 07.03 BRI - SVB
2K07 07.51 SVB - BRI
2K10 08.36 BRI - AVN
2K11 09.15 AVN - BRI
2K14 10.03 BRI - AVN
2K15 10.34 AVN - BRI
2K18 11.16 BRI - SVB
2K19 11.54 SVB - BRI
2K22 12.34 BRI - AVN
2K23 13.15 AVN - BRI
2K28 14.34 BRI - AVN
2K29 15.15 AVN - BRI
2D20 16.15 BRI - BPW
2F98 16.46 BPW - WMN
2C23 18.18 WMN - WSB
2K42 18.38 WSB - AVN
2K43 20.03 AVN - BRI
2U32 21.19 BRI - CDF
2C96 22.36 CDF - BRI

BRI = Bristol Temple Meads
SVB = Seven Beach
AVN = Avonmouth
GCR = Gloucester
FRO = Frome
WMN = Warminster
GMV = Great Malvern
BPW = Bristol Parkway
CDF = Cardiff

Hope this helps.
 

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A couple of days ago I did a spin to Tamworth and some HST thrash!
57304
92044
66509-457Y 0426 Felixstowe North F.L.T. to Lawley Street F.L.T.
66567-447Z 0503 Trafford Park F.L.T. to Felixstowe North F.L.T.
66428-021X 0815 Crewe Gresty Bridge (Drs) to Daventry Drs (Malcolm W H)
66430-673G 0859 Crewe Bas Hall S.S.M. to Mountsorrel Sdgs
56303-0Z56 1000 Derby to Washwood Heath Met.Cammel
66109-643G 0536 Southampton Eastern Docks to Halewood (Jaguar Cars)
70007-407A 0922 Crewe Bas Hall S.S.M. to Southampton M.C.T.
43366+43285-1V50 0606 Edinburgh to Plymouth
66301-429Y 0428 Coatbridge F.L.T. to Daventry Drs (Malcolm W H)
66956-441A 0929 Rugeley B Power Stn (Fhh) to Hunslet Yard (Flhh)
66078-496Z 0917 Trafford Park Euro Term to Soton W Docks Berth 109
08943
66014-680J 1036 Washwood Heath R.M.C. to Guide Bridge B'sde Sdgs
20903-73103-09014-08918-31461-at Nemesis rail Burton
37670
43048
43304+43321-1V54 0632 Dundee to Plymouth
66186-602J 0918 Hope (Earles Sidings) Dbs to Walsall Freight Terminal
56312+56303-6Z56 1138 Washwood Heath Met.Cammel to York Engineers Yard
66543-427A 1230 Crewe Bas Hall S.S.M. to Felixstowe South F.L.T.
66426-494Z 1213 Daventry Drs (Malcolm W H) to Coatbridge F.L.T.
66076-686J 1017 Scunthorpe Trent T.C. to Eastleigh East Yard
92031-469Z 0605 Mossend Euroterminal to Daventry Int Rft Recep Rfd
66044-681J 1131 Halewood (Jaguar Cars) to Southampton Eastern Docks
66510-498Z 1233 Rugeley B Power Stn (Fhh) to Barnetby Dn Recp Sdg (Fhh)
66554-611J 1241 Barrow Hill Up Sdg No 1 to Rugeley B Power Stn (Fhh)
90035+90028-045Y 1335 Crewe T.M.D. (E) to Wembley Eur Frt Ops Cntre
66504-413Z 0932 Felixstowe North F.L.T. to Crewe Bas Hall S.S.N.
60039-612J 1141 Westerleigh Murco to Lindsey Oil Refinery
86637+86610-422A 1010 Tilbury R.C.T. to Crewe Bas Hall S.S.N.
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60099-610K 1104 Wolverhampton Steel Term to Masborough F.D
70803-454A 1212 Leeds F.L.T. to Southampton M.C.T.
68002-003Y 1233 Wembley Lmd to Crewe Gresty Bridge (Drs)
56302-624J 1450 Washwood Heath Met.Cammel to Boston Docks
43384+43301-1S51 1225 Plymouth to Glasgow Central
66193-638K 1140 Humber Oil Refinery to Kingsbury Oil Sdgs
66031-631M 1700 Washwood Heath R.M.C. to Peak Forest Cemex Sdgs
66555-463A 1254 Southampton M.C.T. to Trafford Park F.L.T.
66418-432Z 1035 Felixstowe North F.L.T. to Crewe Bas Hall S.S.N.
43303+43207-1S53 1325 Plymouth to Edinburgh
66548-433Z 1113 Felixstowe North F.L.T. to Trafford Park F.L.T.
66741-416B 1418 Trafford Pk Euro Tml Gbrf to Felixstowe North Gbrf
66592
70020-423A 1334 Felixstowe North F.L.T. to Lawley Street F.L.T.
90035+90036
 

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Has the SWT 158 on loan to FGW changed its diagram recently? Both the last two days I have seen it on the 10:49 Bristol Temple Meads - Westbury. Yesterday it was coupled to one of FGW's 2-car 158s and today it was working alone, approx. 20 minutes late.
 

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Has the SWT 158 on loan to FGW changed its diagram recently? Both the last two days I have seen it on the 10:49 Bristol Temple Meads - Westbury. Yesterday it was coupled to one of FGW's 2-car 158s and today it was working alone, approx. 20 minutes late.

That'll be because the line between Swindon and Gloucester via Kemble is closed for the re-signalling and connecting of the new track between Swindon and Kemble. Its closed for the rest of the week, so expect it to remain on this diagram till then of which I assume it will return to its normal diagram.
 

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That'll be because the line between Swindon and Gloucester via Kemble is closed for the re-signalling and connecting of the new track between Swindon and Kemble. Its closed for the rest of the week, so expect it to remain on this diagram till then of which I assume it will return to its normal diagram.

Ah, that makes sense. Thanks!
 

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HST Diagrams: 08/09/14 - 13/12/14

Monday
1V44 LDS 0600 - BHM 0808a / 0812d - PLY 1146
1V46 YRK 0640 - BHM 0910a / 0917d - PLY 1247
1V50 EDB 0606 - BHM 1109a / 1120d - PLY 1446

1S51 PLY 1225 - BHM 1556a / 1603d - GLC 2228
1S53 PLY 1325 - BHM 1656a / 1703d - EDB 2213
1E63 PLY 1525 - BHM 1856a / 1903d - LDS 2106

Tuesday to Thursday
1V44 LDS 0600 - BHM 0808a / 0812d - PLY 1146
1V50 EDB 0606 - BHM 1109a / 1120d - PLY 1446

1S51 PLY 1225 - BHM 1556a / 1603d - GLC 2228
1E63 PLY 1525 - BHM 1856a / 1903d - LDS 2106

Friday (until 26/09/14 and from 24/10/14)
1V44 LDS 0600 - BHM 0808a / 0812d - PLY 1146
1V50 EDB 0606 - BHM 1109a / 1120d - PLY 1446
1V54 DEE 0632 - BHM 1308a / 1320d - PLY 1648
1V64 EDB 1306 - BHM 1806a / 1812d - PLY 2146

1S51 PLY 1225 - BHM 1556a / 1603d - GLC 2228
1E63 PLY 1525 - BHM 1856a / 1903d - LDS 2106
1E73 PLY 1725 - BHM 2052a / 2103d - LDS 2315

Friday (from 03/10/14 until 17/10/14)
1V44 LDS 0600 - BHM 0808a / 0812d - PLY 1146
1V50 EDB 0606 - BHM 1109a / 1120d - PLY 1446
1V54 DEE 0632 - BHM 1308a / 1320d - PLY 1648

1S51 PLY 1225 - BHM 1556a / 1603d - GLC 2228
1E63 PLY 1525 - BHM 1856a / 1903d - LDS 2106
1E73 PLY 1725 - BHM 2052a / 2103d - LDS 2315

Saturday (until 27/09/14 and from 25/10/14)
1V44 LDS 0600 - BHM 0808a / 0812d - PLY 1146
1V54 DEE 0632 - BHM 1308a / 1320d - PLY 1648

1S51 PLY 1225 - BHM 1556a / 1603d - GLC 2228
1E73 PLY 1725 - BHM 2052a / 2103d - LDS 2315

Saturday (from 04/10/14 until 18/10/14 )
1V44 LDS 0600 - BHM 0808a / 0812d - PLY 1146
1V54 NCL 0942 - BHM 1308a / 1312d - PLY 1643

1S51 PLY 1225 - BHM 1556a / 1603d - LDS 1802
1E73 PLY 1725 - BHM 2052a / 2103d - LDS 2315

Sunday (until 28/09/14)
1V48 LDS 0810 - BHM 1005a / 1030d - PLY 1442
1V50 LDS 0900 - BHM 1121a / 1130d - PLY 1544

1S55 PLY 1325 - BHM 1751a / 1803d - EDB 2235
1E67 PLY 1525 - BHM 1951a / 2003d - LDS 2204
1E73 PLY 1625 - BHM 2052a / 2103d - LDS 2302

Sunday (from 05/10/14 until 19/10/14)
1V48 LDS 0810 - BHM 1005a / 1030d - PLY 1442
1V50 LDS 0900 - BHM 1121a / 1130d - PLY 1544

1E67 PLY 1525 - BHM 1951a / 2003d - LDS 2204
1E73 PLY 1625 - BHM 2052a / 2103d - LDS 2302

Sunday (from 26/10/14)
1V48 LDS 0810 - BHM 1019a / 1030d - PLY 1352
1V50 LDS 0900 - BHM 1121a / 1130d - PLY 1452
1V56 EDB 0908 - BHM 1409a / 1413d - PLY 1742

1S53 PLY 1325 - BHM 1653a / 1703d - EDB 2212
1S55 PLY 1425 - BHM 1750a / 1803d - EDB 2304
1E63 PLY 1524 - BHM 1850a / 1903d - YRK 2131
1E75 PLY 1825 - BHM 2150a / 2203d - LDS 0016
 
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Thread fully updated with new routes :) Am thinking of doing some more, such as FGW HSTs to Carmarthen and EMT Meridians & HSTs to Melton Mowbray. WOuld anyone be interested in those?




HST Diagrams: 08/09/14 - 13/12/14

Monday
1V44 LDS 0600 - BHM 0808a / 0812d - PLY 1146
1V46 YRK 0640 - BHM 0910a / 0917d - PLY 1247
1V50 EDB 0606 - BHM 1109a / 1120d - PLY 1446

1S51 PLY 1225 - BHM 1556a / 1603d - GLC 2228
1S53 PLY 1325 - BHM 1656a / 1703d - EDB 2213
1E63 PLY 1525 - BHM 1856a / 1903d - LDS 2106

Tuesday to Thursday
1V44 LDS 0600 - BHM 0808a / 0812d - PLY 1146
1V50 EDB 0606 - BHM 1109a / 1120d - PLY 1446

1S51 PLY 1225 - BHM 1556a / 1603d - GLC 2228
1E63 PLY 1525 - BHM 1856a / 1903d - LDS 2106

Friday (until 26/09/14 and from 24/10/14)
1V44 LDS 0600 - BHM 0808a / 0812d - PLY 1146
1V50 EDB 0606 - BHM 1109a / 1120d - PLY 1446
1V54 DEE 0632 - BHM 1308a / 1320d - PLY 1648
1V64 EDB 1306 - BHM 1806a / 1812d - PLY 2146

1S51 PLY 1225 - BHM 1556a / 1603d - GLC 2228
1E63 PLY 1525 - BHM 1856a / 1903d - LDS 2106
1E73 PLY 1725 - BHM 2052a / 2103d - LDS 2315

Friday (from 03/10/14 until 17/10/14)
1V44 LDS 0600 - BHM 0808a / 0812d - PLY 1146
1V50 EDB 0606 - BHM 1109a / 1120d - PLY 1446
1V54 DEE 0632 - BHM 1308a / 1320d - PLY 1648

1S51 PLY 1225 - BHM 1556a / 1603d - GLC 2228
1E63 PLY 1525 - BHM 1856a / 1903d - LDS 2106
1E73 PLY 1725 - BHM 2052a / 2103d - LDS 2315

Saturday (until 27/09/14 and from 25/10/14)
1V44 LDS 0600 - BHM 0808a / 0812d - PLY 1146
1V54 DEE 0632 - BHM 1308a / 1320d - PLY 1648

1S51 PLY 1225 - BHM 1556a / 1603d - GLC 2228
1E73 PLY 1725 - BHM 2052a / 2103d - LDS 2315

Saturday (from 04/10/14 until 18/10/14 )
1V44 LDS 0600 - BHM 0808a / 0812d - PLY 1146
1V54 NCL 0942 - BHM 1308a / 1312d - PLY 1643

1S51 PLY 1225 - BHM 1556a / 1603d - LDS 1802
1E73 PLY 1725 - BHM 2052a / 2103d - LDS 2315

Sunday (until 28/09/14)
1V48 LDS 0810 - BHM 1005a / 1030d - PLY 1442
1V50 LDS 0900 - BHM 1121a / 1130d - PLY 1544

1S55 PLY 1325 - BHM 1751a / 1803d - EDB 2235
1E67 PLY 1525 - BHM 1951a / 2003d - LDS 2204
1E73 PLY 1625 - BHM 2052a / 2103d - LDS 2302

Sunday (from 05/10/14 until 19/10/14)
1V48 LDS 0810 - BHM 1005a / 1030d - PLY 1442
1V50 LDS 0900 - BHM 1121a / 1130d - PLY 1544

1E67 PLY 1525 - BHM 1951a / 2003d - LDS 2204
1E73 PLY 1625 - BHM 2052a / 2103d - LDS 2302

Sunday (from 26/10/14)
1V48 LDS 0810 - BHM 1019a / 1030d - PLY 1352
1V50 LDS 0900 - BHM 1121a / 1130d - PLY 1452
1V56 EDB 0908 - BHM 1409a / 1413d - PLY 1742

1S53 PLY 1325 - BHM 1653a / 1703d - EDB 2212
1S55 PLY 1425 - BHM 1750a / 1803d - EDB 2304
1E63 PLY 1524 - BHM 1850a / 1903d - YRK 2131
1E75 PLY 1825 - BHM 2150a / 2203d - LDS 0016

Thank you so much for this, saved me a lot of work :D

Thread fully updated with some new routes as well

Adam :D
 
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Does anyone have access to the local unit diagrams in and around Newcastle?

It would be good to know what is usually 142 and what is 156/150.
 

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Bit late for me now (unless someone's able to get them posted before Tuesday afternoon!), but GTR (formerly FCC, still having to stop and think what the new TLA is!) 317s and 321s wouldn't be a bad shout for the thread. I'm surely not the only one who's going after them?
 

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Bit late for me now (unless someone's able to get them posted before Tuesday afternoon!), but GTR (formerly FCC, still having to stop and think what the new TLA is!) 317s and 321s wouldn't be a bad shout for the thread. I'm surely not the only one who's going after them?

The 321s would be good.
 

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The 321s would be good.

I would have thought they'd be of interest to a fairly decent number of cranks!

I've now received a copy of some 317 and 321 diagrams, although they may be out of date, they should be close so we'll see.

They're not my diagrams and I don't know who they came from so I won't be posting them here at this time, if I find out whose they are and get permission to post them that will be done :)
 

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On Thameslink, are any of the full Brighton to Bedford services formed of 377s on Sundays?

Or are they all just 319s?
 

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Should be a mix. Based on the May 2014 diagrams it should be 6 pairs of 377s out all day and 5 pairs of 319s out all day. There may be slightly more workings covered by 377s now though because of the introduction of 377/2s on Thameslink and the displacement of 319s.
 

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Thanks

I would rather do the whole distance on a 377 than a 319 (unless it is one of the former southern units with tables)
 

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The following XC HST Diagram changes come into effect on Fridays - Sundays only from the dates below until the December TT Change. No changes for Mon - Thurs diagrams

Friday (from 24/10/14)
1V44 LDS 0600 - BHM 0808a / 0812d - PLY 1146
1V50 EDB 0606 - BHM 1109a / 1120d - PLY 1446
1V54 DEE 0632 - BHM 1308a / 1320d - PLY 1648
1V64 EDB 1306 - BHM 1806a / 1812d - PLY 2146

1S51 PLY 1225 - BHM 1556a / 1603d - GLC 2228
1E63 PLY 1525 - BHM 1856a / 1903d - LDS 2106
1E73 PLY 1725 - BHM 2052a / 2103d - LDS 2315

Saturday (from 25/10/14)
1V44 LDS 0600 - BHM 0808a / 0812d - PLY 1146
1V54 DEE 0632 - BHM 1308a / 1320d - PLY 1648

1S51 PLY 1225 - BHM 1556a / 1603d - GLC 2228
1E73 PLY 1725 - BHM 2052a / 2103d - LDS 2315

Sunday (from 26/10/14)
1V48 LDS 0810 - BHM 1019a / 1030d - PLY 1352
1V50 LDS 0900 - BHM 1121a / 1130d - PLY 1452
1V56 EDB 0908 - BHM 1409a / 1413d - PLY 1742

1S53 PLY 1325 - BHM 1653a / 1703d - EDB 2212
1S55 PLY 1425 - BHM 1750a / 1803d - EDB 2304
1E63 PLY 1524 - BHM 1850a / 1903d - YRK 2131
1E75 PLY 1825 - BHM 2150a / 2203d - LDS 0016
 
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Between Christmas and New Year - Monday 29th for example - Chiltern's services out of Marylebone have an altered timetable. Is there any way of knowing which if any of these services will be loco hauled?
According to Chiltern's a Saturday will operate. Does that mean no loco hauled trains?
 
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Between Christmas and New Year - Monday 29th for example - Chiltern's services out of Marylebone have an altered timetable. Is there any way of knowing which if any of these services will be loco hauled?
According to Chiltern's a Saturday will operate. Does that mean no loco hauled trains?

Chiltern's Saturday service now has three loco hauled trains each way, but haven't seen anything to indicate if these will operate in the Christmas period.
 

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Thread is now fully updated with new XC HST times, plus the new additions of Virgin to Shrewsbury & Blackpool and ATW's new LHCS services. Sadly, the Pretendolino has been removed on account of it's upcoming demise.

Adam :D
 

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All are HSTs, except the sleeper which is usually 57, most via Newbury but some via Bristol.
 

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XC HST Diagrams from December until at least February

Mondays

1V44 LDS 0600 - BHM 0808a / 0812d - PLY 1146
1V46 YRK 0640 - BHM 0910a / 0917d - PLY 1247
1V50 EDB 0606 - BHM 1109a / 1120d - PLY 1446
1V54 DEE 0632 - BHM 1308a / 1320d - PLY 1648

1S51 PLY 1225 - BHM 1556a / 1603d - GLC 2228
1S53 PLY 1325 - BHM 1656a / 1703d - EDB 2213
1E63 PLY 1525 - BHM 1856a / 1903d - LDS 2106
1E73 PLY 1725 - BHM 2052a / 2103d - LDS 2315

Tuesdays & Thursdays
1V44 LDS 0600 - BHM 0808a / 0812d - PLY 1146
1V46 YRK 0640 - BHM 0910a / 0917d - PLY 1247
1V50 EDB 0606 - BHM 1109a / 1120d - PLY 1446

1S51 PLY 1225 - BHM 1556a / 1603d - GLC 2228
1S53 PLY 1325 - BHM 1656a / 1703d - EDB 2213
1E63 PLY 1525 - BHM 1856a / 1903d - LDS 2106

Wednesdays
1V44 LDS 0600 - BHM 0808a / 0812d - PLY 1146
1V50 EDB 0606 - BHM 1109a / 1120d - PLY 1446
1V54 DEE 0632 - BHM 1308a / 1320d - PLY 1648

1S51 PLY 1225 - BHM 1556a / 1603d - GLC 2228
1E63 PLY 1525 - BHM 1856a / 1903d - LDS 2106
1E73 PLY 1725 - BHM 2052a / 2103d - LDS 2315

Friday
1V44 LDS 0600 - BHM 0808a / 0812d - PLY 1146
1V50 EDB 0606 - BHM 1109a / 1120d - PLY 1446
1V54 DEE 0632 - BHM 1308a / 1320d - PLY 1648
1V64 EDB 1306 - BHM 1806a / 1812d - PLY 2146

1S51 PLY 1225 - BHM 1556a / 1603d - GLC 2228
1E63 PLY 1525 - BHM 1856a / 1903d - LDS 2106
1E73 PLY 1725 - BHM 2052a / 2103d - LDS 2315

Saturday
1V44 LDS 0600 - BHM 0808a / 0812d - PLY 1146
1V54 DEE 0632 - BHM 1308a / 1320d - PLY 1648

1S51 PLY 1225 - BHM 1556a / 1603d - GLC 2228
1E73 PLY 1725 - BHM 2052a / 2103d - LDS 2315

Sunday

1V48 LDS 0810 - BHM 1019a / 1030d - PLY 1352
1V50 LDS 0900 - BHM 1121a / 1130d - PLY 1452
1V56 EDB 0908 - BHM 1409a / 1413d - PLY 1742

1S53 PLY 1325 - BHM 1653a / 1703d - EDB 2212
1S55 PLY 1425 - BHM 1750a / 1803d - EDB 2304
1E63 PLY 1524 - BHM 1850a / 1903d - YRK 2131
1E75 PLY 1825 - BHM 2150a / 2203d - LDS 0016
 
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Ah so the 3 diagrams on Tuesday/Wednesday/Thursday is staying for a little longer then?

I know they have been these last two weeks due to lack of voyagers (or maybe lack of turbostars = use of voyagers on turbostar diagrams -> lack of voyagers) but I didn't anticipate this lasting too long.

I need to work in a way of doing the January diversions via Westbury - would be a lot easier if I was still at home coming from Cheltenham!
 
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