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Should now be a mixture Blindtraveler, of 390s and 10-car 221 sets.

LM 321 workings have changed. 16:47 off MKC was a 350 today, and the 12:47 off MKC, formerly a 350, was a 321.
 
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suggesting they are making more use of there 321s. if anyone else can shed light on the pendo Edinburgh0workings that would be great! Not only do I want to avoid voyagers on my regular trips to Carlisle and Penrith but it hasnt escaped my notice that theres some rather nice FC advances on the new through services and although the journey is longer the prices sometimes make up for it!
 
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XC HST diagrams are not changing. Still 2 sets out per day, apart from Mondays and Fridays.

Sundays can still produce 3-4 sets depending on Engineering work, of if there is stock out of place

Mondays:
Diagram 1: 1V44 0600 Leeds - Plymouth, 1S51 1224 Plymouth - Glasgow Central
Diagram 2: 1V46 0632 York - Plymouth, 1S53 1324 Plymouth - Edinburgh
Diagram 3: 1V50 0606 Edinburgh - Plymouth, 1E63 1524 Plymouth - Leeds

Tue/Wed/Thur
Diagram 1: 1V44 0600 Leeds - Plymouth, 1S51 1224 Plymouth - Glasgow Central
Diagram 2: 1V50 0606 Edinburgh - Plymouth, 1E63 1524 Plymouth - Leeds

Fridays:
Diagram 1: 1V44 0600 Leeds - Plymouth, 1S51 1224 Plymouth - Glasgow Central
Diagram 2: 1V50 0606 Edinburgh - Plymouth, 1E63 1524 Plymouth - Leeds
Diagram 3: 1V54 0632 Dundee - Plymouth, 1E73 1724 Plymouth - Leeds
Diagram 4: 1V64 1306 Edinburgh - Plymouth (booked, but often a voyager)

Saturdays:
Diagram 1: 1V44 0600 Leeds - Plymouth, 1S51 1224 Plymouth - Glasgow Central
Diagram 2: 1V54 0632 Dundee - Plymouth, 1E73 1724 Plymouth - Leeds

Sundays (currently):
Diagram 1: 1V48 0810 Leeds - Plymouth, 1E67 1525 Plymouth - Leeds
Diagram 2: 1V50 0900 Leeds - Plymouth, 1E73 1625 Plymouth - Leeds
Diagram 3: Diagram 3: 1S51 1225 Plymouth - Edinburgh (booked, but can be a voyager)

Sundays tend to change due to Eng Works. If
 
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LM 321's

Monday-Friday

8 Car
2K50 0554 Milton Keynes-Euston
2T11 0704 Euston-Tring
2T52 0804 Tring-Euston
2T27 0905 Euston-Tring
2T12 0956 Tring-Euston

Northern Most Unit then forms:
2T41 1105 Euston-Tring
2T20 1156 Tring-Euston

Southern Most Unit then forms:
2K43 1124 Euston-Milton Keynes
2K28 1247 Milton Keynes-Euston
2T65 1405 Euston-Tring
2T32 1456 Tring-Euston

8 Car
2K53 0619 Milton Keynes-Euston
2J06 0755 Watford-Euston
2T23 0834 Euston-Tring
2T10 0926 Tring-Euston

Northern most unit then forms:
2K37 1024 Euston-Milton Keynes
2K26 1147 Milton Keynes-Euston
2T57 1305 Euston-Tring
2T28 1356 Tring-Euston
2T73 1505 Euston-Tring
2T36 1556 Tring-Euston

Southern most unit of 2T10 0926 Tring-Euston then forms:
2T91 1034 Euston-Tring
2T18 1126 Tring-Euston
2T53 1234 Tring-Euston
2T26 1326 Tring-Euston

8 Car units from 2T32 1456 (south end) and 2T36 1556 Tring-Euston’s (north end)
2T89 1712 Euston-Tring
2T06 1759 Tring-Euston
2T11 1905 Euston-Tring
2T14 1956 Tring-Euston
2N31 2224 Euston-Northampton

8 Car Set from 2T20 1156 and 2T26 1326 Tring-Euston’s
2T69 1434 Euston-Tring
2T36 1526 Tring-Euston
2K83 1624 Euston-Milton Keynes
2K04 1747 Milton Keynes-Euston
2K09 1852 Euston-Milton Keynes
 
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How do I find which Fife circular services are Loco hauled for tomorrow? A chap in the ticket office at Haymarket said they were back on again.
 
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Has anybody got the diagrams for 221s on the EUS-BHM runs?

Also plastic pig diagrams would be a good idea!




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I noticed that yesterday (11th) the 1518 ex-Paddington (Bedwyn service) was run by 180102, suggesting to me that either the diagram has been changed, or there was a unit displacement.
 
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I noticed that yesterday (11th) the 1518 ex-Paddington (Bedwyn service) was run by 180102, suggesting to me that either the diagram has been changed, or there was a unit displacement.
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As far as I know, 180s can't fit in the loop at Bedwyn as they are too long, so have issues turning around there. To my knowledge, the train you saw is booked for a 166 so I have no idea what is going on :P

Adam :D
 
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That's rather odd. A 180 can't fit in the reversing siding at Bedwyn.
 
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Rich McLean said:
XC HST diagrams are not changing. Still 2 sets out per day, apart from Mondays and Fridays.

Sundays can still produce 3-4 sets depending on Engineering work, of if there is stock out of place

Mondays:
Diagram 1: 1V44 0600 Leeds - Plymouth, 1S51 1224 Plymouth - Glasgow Central
Diagram 2: 1V46 0632 York - Plymouth, 1S53 1324 Plymouth - Edinburgh
Diagram 3: 1V50 0606 Edinburgh - Plymouth, 1E63 1524 Plymouth - Leeds

Tue/Wed/Thur
Diagram 1: 1V44 0600 Leeds - Plymouth, 1S51 1224 Plymouth - Glasgow Central
Diagram 2: 1V50 0606 Edinburgh - Plymouth, 1E63 1524 Plymouth - Leeds

Fridays:
Diagram 1: 1V44 0600 Leeds - Plymouth, 1S51 1224 Plymouth - Glasgow Central
Diagram 2: 1V50 0606 Edinburgh - Plymouth, 1E63 1524 Plymouth - Leeds
Diagram 3: 1V54 0632 Dundee - Plymouth, 1E73 1724 Plymouth - Leeds
Diagram 4: 1V64 1306 Edinburgh - Plymouth (booked, but often a voyager)

Saturdays:
Diagram 1: 1V44 0600 Leeds - Plymouth, 1S51 1224 Plymouth - Glasgow Central
Diagram 2: 1V54 0632 Dundee - Plymouth, 1E73 1724 Plymouth - Leeds

Sundays (currently):
Diagram 1: 1V48 0810 Leeds - Plymouth, 1E67 1525 Plymouth - Leeds
Diagram 2: 1V50 0900 Leeds - Plymouth, 1E73 1625 Plymouth - Leeds
Diagram 3: Diagram 3: 1S51 1225 Plymouth - Edinburgh (booked, but can be a voyager)

Sundays tend to change due to Eng Works. If
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Thanks very much for these :D Sunday diagrams have changed again already though ;)


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That's rather odd. A 180 can't fit in the reversing siding at Bedwyn.
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Hooray, I remembered that correctly ;)


Does anyone know what the new Grand Central HST diagrams are, if LM run any 150s to Hereford still and if both Fife circle 67s are running?

Adam :D
 
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bb21 said:
I noticed that yesterday (11th) the 1518 ex-Paddington (Bedwyn service) was run by 180102, suggesting to me that either the diagram has been changed, or there was a unit displacement.
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Oddly enough it shows 166208 working the service.

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1K68 PADDINGTN 15:18 166208
5K75 BEDWYN    16:30 166208
 
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The 1518 to Bedwyn and the 1552 to Worcester both left from platform 1, so I suspect the OP saw a 180 at the buffers end (for Worcester), and didn't see the 166 further down the platform.
 
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The 1518 to Bedwyn and the 1552 to Worcester both left from platform 1, so I suspect the OP saw a 180 at the buffers end (for Worcester), and didn't see the 166 further down the platform.
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Aye. That is quite possible. Apologies about the confusion.

I didn't think Networkers ever ventured down that side of Paddington.
 
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I could've sworn this was in the list, but here are the Chiltern Class 172 diagrams.

Mondays to Fridays

1H02 05:20 BAN - MYB 06:31
1H14 07:32 HWY - MYB 08:16
1H17 06:28 BMO - MYB 08:28
2H26 09:19 GER - MYB 09:52
2H29 09:44 GER - MYB 10:18
1H35 09:12 BSW - MYB 11:11
1H37 09:14 SAV - MYB 11:29
2H43 12:20 GER - MYB 12:57
1H44 11:58 BCS - MYB 13:00
2H48 13:20 GER - MYB 13:57
1H49 12:58 BCS - MYB 14:00
1H63 15:58 BCS - MYB 17:00
1H82 17:35 SAV - MYB 19:49
2H87 20:02 BCS - MYB 21:10
2H91 21:27 HWY - MYB 22:10
2U97 22:12 BSW - BAN 23:23
2H96 23:00 HWY - MYB 23:52

1D05 06:45 MYB - SAV 08:57
1G07 07:15 MYB - BSW 08:59
2G14 08:31 MYB - GER 08:58
2G16 08:51 MYB - GER 09:27
1N26 10:48 MYB - BCS 11:46
2G26 10:52 MYB - GER 11:25
1N31 11:48 MYB - BCS 12:46
2G31 11:52 MYB - GER 12:27
1N46 14:48 MYB - BCS 15:46
1D48 15:18 MYB - SAV 17:35
1R58 17:18 MYB - BMO 19:16
1N65 18:50 MYB - BCS 19:52
2W74 20:27 MYB - HWY 21:08
2W82 21:52 MYB - HWY 22:38
2W84 22:24 MYB - HWY 23:08
1U92 00:05 MYB - BAN 01:22

Saturdays

1H09 06:29 BAN - MYB 07:42
1H35 09:12 BSW - MYB 11:14
1H40 10:12 BSW - MYB 12:17
1H66 15:37 SAV - MYB 17:44

1G07 07:00 MYB - BSW 09:07
1G10 08:00 MYB - BSW 10:09
1D39 13:09 MYB - SAV 15:33
2G64 18:15 MYB - GER 18:44

Sundays

1H47 11:38 SAV - MYB 13:41
1H82 17:38 SAV - MYB 19:41

1D19 09:30 MYB - SAV 11:29
1D47 15:09 MYB - SAV 17:30
1U72 20:09 MYB - BAN 21:32
2U90 23:45 MYB - BAN 01:20

BAN - Banbury
MYB - London Marylebone
HWY - High Wycombe
BMO - Birmingham Moor Street
GER - Gerrards Cross
BSW - Birmingham Snow Hill
SAV - Stratford-upon-Avon
BCS - Bicester North
 
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Thread Updated :D

Biggus Tiggus said:
I could've sworn this was in the list, but here are the Chiltern Class 172 diagrams. As with the 67 diagrams, the numbers in brackets refer to set numbers.

Mondays to Fridays:

05:20 Banbury - Marylebone (arr 06:29) (1)
07:33 High Wycombe - Marylebone (arr 08:14) (4)
06:28 Birmingham Moor Street - Marylebone (arr 08:26) (2)
09:19 Gerrards Cross - Marylebone (arr 09:50) (4)
09:44 Gerrards Cross - Marylebone (arr 10:16) (2)
09:12 Birmingham Snow Hill - Marylebone (arr 11:06) (3)
09:14 Stratford-upon-Avon - Marylebone (arr 11:29) (1)
12:20 Gerrards Cross - Marylebone (arr 12:55) (4)
11:58 Bicester North _ Marylebone (arr 13:00) (2)
13:20 Gerrards Cross - Marylebone (arr 13:55) (3)
12:58 Bicester North - Marylebone (arr 14:00) (1)
15:58 Bicester North - Marylebone (arr 17:00) (3)
17:35 Stratford-upon-Avon - Marylebone (arr 19:47) (4) FX / (2)+(4) FO
20:02 Bicester North - Marylebone (arr 21:08) (1)
21:27 High Wycombe - Marylebone (arr 22:08) (4)
22:12 Birmingham Snow Hill - Banbury (arr 23:18) (3)
23:00 High Wycombe - Marylebone (arr 23:50) (1)

06:45 Marylebone - Stratford-upon-Avon (arr 08:52) (1)
07:15 Marylebone - Birmingham Snow Hill (arr 08:56) (3)
08:31 Marylebone - Gerrards Cross (arr 08:56) (4)
08:51 Marylebone - Gerrards Cross (arr 09:25) (2)
10:48 Marylebone - Bicester North (arr 11:44) (2)
10:52 Marylebone - Gerrards Cross (arr 11:23) (4)
11:48 Marylebone - Bicester North (arr 12:44) (1)
11:52 Marylebone - Gerrards Cross (arr 12:25) (3)
14:48 Marylebone - Bicester North (arr 15:44) (3)
15:18 Marylebone - Stratford-upon-Avon (arr 17:30) (4) FX / (2)+(4) FO
17:18 Marylebone - Birmingham Moor Street (arr 19:11) (3)
18:50 Marylebone - Bicester North (arr 19:50) (1)
20:27 Marylebone - High Wycombe (arr 21:06) (4)
21:52 Marylebone - High Wycombe (arr 22:36) (1)
22:24 Marylebone - High Wycombe (arr 23:06) (4)
00:05FX Marylebone - Banbury (arr 01:20) (1)

FO = Fridays Only
FX = Fridays Excepted

Saturdays:

06:29 Banbury - Marylebone (arr 07:40) (1)
09:12 Birmingham Snow Hill - Marylebone (arr 11:12) (2)
10:12 Birmingham Snow Hill - Marylebone (arr 12:15) (1)
15:37 Stratford-upon-Avon - Marylebone (arr 17:42) (1)+(2)

07:00 Marylebone - Birmingham Snow Hill (arr 09:02) (2)
08:00 Marylebone - Birmingham Snow Hill (arr 10:04) (1)
13:09 Marylebone - Stratford-upon-Avon (arr 15:31) (1)+(2)
18:15 Marylebone - Gerrards Cross (arr 18:42) (1)

Sundays:

11:38 Stratford-upon-Avon - Marylebone (arr 13:39) (1)+(2)
17:38 Stratford-upon-Avon - Marylebone (arr 19:39) (1)+(2)

09:30 Marylebone - Stratford-upon-Avon (arr 11:24) (1)+(2)
15:09 Marylebone - Stratford-upon-Avon (arr 17:25) (1)+(2)
20:09 Marylebone - Banbury (arr 21:30) (1)
23:45 Marylebone - Banbury (arr 01:20) (2)
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Thank you very much indeed for these :D They have been added to the thread and I have included you in the "Many Thanks" list in the first post.
Thanks again,
Adam :D
 
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XC HST diagram update

WEF: 18/01/14 until 09/02/14

Weekday Diagram 1

1V44 0600 Leeds to Taunton 1018
1T45 1048 Taunton to Bristol Temple Meads 1120
5T50 1131 Bristol Temple Meads to Bristol Temple Meads 1235 (via Bedminster 1134-1232)
1T50 1250 Bristol Temple Meads to Taunton 1322
1S51 1352 Taunton to Glasgow Central 2228

Weekday Diagram 2

1V52 0601 Glasgow Central to Taunton 1416
1T53 1448 Taunton to Bristol Temple Meads 1520
1T56 1550 Bristol Temple Meads to Taunton 1623
1E63 1652 Taunton to Leeds 2106

Saturday Diagram

1V44 0600 Leeds to Taunton 1018
1T45 1048 Taunton to Bristol Temple Meads 1120
5T50 1135 Bristol Temple Meads to Bristol Temple Meads 1237 (via Bedminster 1138-1234)
1T50 1250 Bristol Temple Meads to Taunton 1322
1S51 1352 Taunton to Glasgow Central 2228

Sunday Diagram

1V56 0908 Edinburgh to Taunton 1625
1T64 1652 Taunton to Bristol Temple Meads 1722
1T84 1744 Bristol Temple Meads to Taunton 1823
1E73 1849 Taunton to Leeds 2337
 
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Manchester77 said:
Don't know if you want to add the First TransPennine Express Class 350/4 diagram to the list?

1S32 0558 MIA - EDB : http://opentraintimes.com/schedule/Y82682/2014-01-15
1M95 1008 EDB - MIA : http://opentraintimes.com/schedule/Y82546/2014-01-15
1S66 1400 MIA - EDB : http://opentraintimes.com/schedule/Y82705/2014-01-15
1M91 1612 EDB - MIA : http://opentraintimes.com/schedule/Y82535/2014-01-15

MIA - Manchester Airport
EDB - Edinburgh Waverley

Weekday only as far I know.
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Useful post. I emailed tpe wanting to know this but did not get a response.
How do you tell that a class 350 operates at those times from the url's that you have posted?
 
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Useful post. I emailed tpe wanting to know this but did not get a response.
How do you tell that a class 350 operates at those times from the url's that you have posted?
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Because that's the diagram which has been previously posted and the diagram I've caught a. 350/4 on three times now :)
 
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Rich McLean said:
XC HST diagram update

WEF: 18/01/14 until 09/02/14

Weekday Diagram 1

1V44 0600 Leeds to Taunton 1018
1T45 1048 Taunton to Bristol Temple Meads 1120
5T50 1131 Bristol Temple Meads to Bristol Temple Meads 1235 (via Bedminster 1134-1232)
1T50 1250 Bristol Temple Meads to Taunton 1322
1S51 1352 Taunton to Glasgow Central 2228

Weekday Diagram 2

1V52 0601 Glasgow Central to Taunton 1416
1T53 1448 Taunton to Bristol Temple Meads 1520
1T56 1550 Bristol Temple Meads to Taunton 1623
1E63 1652 Taunton to Leeds 2106

Saturday Diagram

1V44 0600 Leeds to Taunton 1018
1T45 1048 Taunton to Bristol Temple Meads 1120
5T50 1135 Bristol Temple Meads to Bristol Temple Meads 1237 (via Bedminster 1138-1234)
1T50 1250 Bristol Temple Meads to Taunton 1322
1S51 1352 Taunton to Glasgow Central 2228

Sunday Diagram

1V56 0908 Edinburgh to Taunton 1625
1T64 1652 Taunton to Bristol Temple Meads 1722
1T84 1744 Bristol Temple Meads to Taunton 1823
1E73 1849 Taunton to Leeds 2337
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Manchester77 said:
Don't know if you want to add the First TransPennine Express Class 350/4 diagram to the list?

1S32 0558 MIA - EDB : http://opentraintimes.com/schedule/Y82682/2014-01-15
1M95 1008 EDB - MIA : http://opentraintimes.com/schedule/Y82546/2014-01-15
1S66 1400 MIA - EDB : http://opentraintimes.com/schedule/Y82705/2014-01-15
1M91 1612 EDB - MIA : http://opentraintimes.com/schedule/Y82535/2014-01-15

MIA - Manchester Airport
EDB - Edinburgh Waverley

Weekday only as far I know.
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List updated with both of these in new "Temporary Diagrams" section. Thanks very much for these :)

Adam :D
 
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anybody have an idea what will form the 10:15 BHM>EDB (the 08:43 I think)? Off EUS? Trying to avoid if possible 4h07 on a voyager!↲
 
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