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Minilad

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I believe Ice Hockey has limited video technology, for goals IIRC, and that is one of the fastest team sports going, so if they can use it there, why not in football?

Would it not be beyond the bounds of reality to have video technology when the ref isn't sure and play on as the ref sees fit. If the video comes back as the other way round, the clocks are reset and play goes back to that point, if not, it continues as it was. This would prevent much of the time wasting aspect. It would ofcourse rely on refs being honest about what they saw or didn't see.

As an example, a player's pass reaches the byline and another player claims to have kept it in, the opposition disagree, and the ref and assistants are not sure, the ref allows play to continue, but calls for video to decide. the home team go on to score a goal from it, but when the video comes back it shows the ball going out. The goal is ruled out, the elapsed time is added as injury time, or the clocks are put back, and play goes back to where the ball went off the pitch.

Ice Hockey is fast yes. But there are lots of stoppages where the clock is stopped. Not so in football. Video is only watched in Ice Hockey (while the game is in progress) for goals. Which in football I wouldn't have a problem with. And then its only to verify if the puck has crossed the line nothing else.
Under the method you suggest a game would go on for hours as everyone would challenge every decision that is borderline.
 
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Has the law changed in this country?
How can the FA take the captaincy off John Terry when he hasn't done anything, Fabio Capello has every right to complain it's his team and he DID decide who plays and who is captain.
Same old FA, spineless and run by out of date old people who should off walked away.

No the law hasn't changed, but the FA/Capello are free to give the captaincy to whoever they want.

The captaincy of the England team is not something that you get to keep forever, or until you retire/die. It is an honour bestowed upon one of the England players who is assumed to have experience, leadership qualities and the respect of the rest of the squad.

Presumably, the FA consider that an impending court case (for whatever reason) means that particular player will not have the respect of the team, or indeed the country at large.

It is no different from an employee of a company being suspended on full pay if he has been charged with an offence and is awaiting a court hearing.

Personally, I would not give Terry the captaincy, because he would not be a first choice player in my team but that is just a personal opinion.

I am not quite sure what it is about Chelsea players that makes them think they have a divine right to play forever. It is the same with Lampard who is forever bleating about being on the bench.

Well, duh.... It is because of your age Frank, and there are younger players who are keen to take your place, same with John Terry.

Look at people such as Ryan Giggs or Jamie Carragher. Are they forever in the papers moaning because they dont start every match?

No, because they know that towards the end of their career they have to either accept the experienced substitute role, or get a transfer to a lower league club where they could start most matches but the pace of the game will be reduced.
 

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To my mind the intent isn't necessary for something like that. Straight red; end of.

Suarez needs to be taught a lesson (as does his manager for that matter!).
 

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I'm going to give him the benefit of the doubt there, even as a Spurs fan. Stupid, yes, intentional, no.
 

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So it seems 'ole 'arry has been cleared of tax evasion, seems a bit fishy given the evidence against him.

Perhaps fabio will get the boot tonight and redknapp will be offered the England managers job, given that the tabloids want him to get the job.

Still it's once again a prime example of one rule for them and another for everyone else, if it had been a regular person that got caught they would have been hung out to dry by now...

Phil 8-)
 

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That been said it can only be judged on the evidence in front of the jury and if the prosecution didn't try very hard it would be easy to find not guilty
 

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So it seems 'ole 'arry has been cleared of tax evasion, seems a bit fishy given the evidence against him.

Perhaps fabio will get the boot tonight and redknapp will be offered the England managers job, given that the tabloids want him to get the job.

Still it's once again a prime example of one rule for them and another for everyone else, if it had been a regular person that got caught they would have been hung out to dry by now...

Phil 8-)

BBC link

Does this mean you believe he was guilty? At no stage have I ever believed as much, and I am glad and pleased for 'Arry for the case is finally over. He's one of the most decent guys in football and should never have had to put up with this.

Note also the following quote from Alan Sugar:

If this was Harry Smith or Harry Brown, it would never have gone to court. This is an attempt by the authorities to make an example of a high profile personality which has backfired.

It dates back a long time to when pressure was put on the authorities to do something about alleged, so-called wrongdoing in football.

They were hoping to prove something and now they have egg on their face.

P.S.: Everyone knows your wife's name 'Arry; no need to mention it! ;)

Just seen this on Facebook:

No income tax, no VAT,
No points last week off Man City.
The future's bleak, he's looking pale...
Harry Redknapp's off to jail.

I wasn't going to comment on this, but with it having been so recent in comparison to the present (after the verdict) I thought I will. Matt, please go to the offenders and tell them how disgusting their poem is. It is this kind of thing that shows how disgraceful some supporters are.

(I know you won't though, but it's a despicable thing to do nonetheless.)
 

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Well what a surprise. The loathsome Redknapp gets away with it.
Well chaps you know what to do now if you don't wanna pay tax just put the money in an account with your pets name and tell everyone you are a bit thick.

Comes to something when Redknapps dog has more money than most people in the UK !!
 

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HMRC must have thought they'd have a reasonable chance of a successful outcome or they wouldn't have prosecuted. I'd imagine tax evasion is very hard to prove beyond reasonable doubt
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BBC link

Does this mean you believe he was guilty? At no stage have I ever believed as much, and I am glad and pleased for 'Arry for the case is finally over. He's one of the most decent guys in football and should never have had to put up with this.

Note also the following quote from Alan Sugar:

Allow me to quote the line in full
Following the verdicts, former Spurs chairman Lord Sugar told BBC Radio 5 Live: "If this was Harry Smith or Harry Brown, it would never have gone to court. This is an attempt by the authorities to make an example of a high profile personality which has backfired.

A personal friend and acquaintance of Mr Redknapp is defending him?! Stop the Press!

Tax evasion will never be tackled seriously, the cuts to HMRC should tell you that. Whether this is the government's intention or not is up to the reader to decide...
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In matters on the pitch Zambia beat Ghana by one goal to nil to see them through to the final of the African cup of nations
 

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At no stage have I ever believed as much, and I am glad and pleased for 'Arry for the case is finally over. He's one of the most decent guys in football and should never have had to put up with this.
I cannot believe it is a coincidence that Bournemouth, West Ham, Southampton and Portsmouth, all teams that Redknapp has managed, have all had major financial problems since he has left them.
 

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I cannot believe it is a coincidence that Bournemouth, West Ham, Southampton and Portsmouth, all teams that Redknapp has managed, have all had major financial problems since he has left them.
To be fair, most professional football clubs have "major financial problems" at present. But many in football seem to believe that paying tax is optional, and Chairmen and Managers throughout the game are guilty of that, HMRC should (IMHO) be more robust in chasing the massive sums defrauded from the public purse by clubs - and then, perhaps, they will also find the individuals responsible.
 

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To be fair, most professional football clubs have "major financial problems" at present. But many in football seem to believe that paying tax is optional, and Chairmen and Managers throughout the game are guilty of that, HMRC should (IMHO) be more robust in chasing the massive sums defrauded from the public purse by clubs - and then, perhaps, they will also find the individuals responsible.

What gets me about this is that HMRC seem to allow huge debts build up before doing anything about it. I could just imagine if an individual failed to pay for such a long while. I'm sure they would be tackled much quicker
 

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