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You were extremely unlucky in that game.....how you didn't score was unbelievable.
Incidentally, if anyone from England wonders why the old firm always win the league, just take a look at Celtic's handball penalty given by a VAR wearing a green and white hooped shirt in the 94th minute today (when 3 minutes of injury time was indicated by the 4th official) to secure their 2-1 away victory at Kilmarnock.
We really should have scored a goal or two in the first few minutes and Newcastle weren’t particularly impressive but losing every week grinds you down a bit hence my negativity.
That Celtic penalty was ridiculous.
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Incidentally, if anyone from England wonders why the old firm always win the league, just take a look at Celtic's handball penalty given by a VAR wearing a green and white hooped shirt in the 94th minute today (when 3 minutes of injury time was indicated by the 4th official) to secure their 2-1 away victory at Kilmarnock.
Ah dry your eyes. Willie Collum (Head of Refereeing at the SFA) set out as recently as last Friday that penalties would be given under such circumstances - the player blocked the ball with an unnatural arm movement, and so the penalty was given. Boo hoo.
Ah dry your eyes. Willie Collum (Head of Refereeing at the SFA) set out as recently as last Friday that penalties would be given under such circumstances - the player blocked the ball with an unnatural arm movement, and so the penalty was given. Boo hoo.
And the announcement at the stadium will have been "the fourth official has indicated a minimum of three minutes additional time"
And in any event the incident occurred at 92:27
But the bigger issue that isn't ever going to go away is that everything is seen through the lens of the Old Firm. Everything that happens occurs because the ref / VAR supports Celtic / Rangers. Yesterday there are Rangers fans screaming "oh but the VAR is a lifelong Celtic fan, that's why he got involved" and Celtic fans saying "its a clear penner, the ref is a Rangers fan that's why he didn't give it straight away"
And the announcement at the stadium will have been "the fourth official has indicated a minimum of three minutes additional time"
And in any event the incident occurred at 92:27
But the bigger issue that isn't ever going to go away is that everything is seen through the lens of the Old Firm. Everything that happens occurs because the ref / VAR supports Celtic / Rangers. Yesterday there are Rangers fans screaming "oh but the VAR is a lifelong Celtic fan, that's why he got involved" and Celtic fans saying "its a clear penner, the ref is a Rangers fan that's why he didn't give it straight away"
just take a look at Celtic's handball penalty given by a VAR wearing a green and white hooped shirt in the 94th minute today (when 3 minutes of injury time was indicated by the 4th official) to secure their 2-1 away victory at Kilmarnock.
The incident took place in the 92nd minute and was- under the current handball rules- as blatant a penalty as you'll ever see. I seriously question why VAR even had to become involved.
We can argue all day whether the current handball rules are fit for purpose. I'd agree with people who say they are not. But under the rules it was a blatant penalty.
The real problem is that historically Rangers were the establishment club and got everything their own way. There was basically a revolving door between the SFA and the local Lodge, especially during the 80s and 90s.
So now Rangers fans see everything through that prism. Celtic now get treated fairly and Rangers fans perceive that as Celtic getting special treatment. They don't get special treatment, it's just that Rangers no longer get the special treatment either.
Anyway.
If we want to talk about dubious refereeing, look at Liverpool's winner at Burnley yesterday. Even with the current handball rules that decision was scandalous. As a Bradford City fan I have no time at all for Burnley but even I feel sorry for them, robbed of a point on two successive weekends. Those two lost points could end up relegating them.
I firmly believe that the refereeing in the English Premier League now makes Serie A in the 1990s look honest. There isn't a referee in the English Premier League who I don't think is corrupt. The only question will be whether the systemic corruption in England will ever get exposed, or whether they'll just carry on as normal now David Coote has been thrown under the bus.
Last observation: it was wonderful to see Bradford City put the loudmouths from down the road back in their box.
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With the Old Firm, the other clubs simply don't stand a chance in the league. The cups are a bit better, if the Old Firm play each other before the final then, if you get the Old Firm on a bad day in the final, you have a chance. It was great to see Aberdeen win the Cup.
But without the Old Firm, the Scottish league will end up about as relevant as the Welsh Premier League. Not even people in Edinburgh seem to care much about Hearts v Hibs.
If we want to talk about dubious refereeing, look at Liverpool's winner at Burnley yesterday. Even with the current handball rules that decision was scandalous
I honestly don't understand where you're coming from with that. Not one Burnley player complained; Hannibal knew instantly he'd screwed up. He turns away from the ball and his arm is sticking out, and under the current laws that's an obvious penalty
Decide for yourself! (I was referring to club goal of the season, although I'm pretty sure it would be shortlisted for Goal of the Month if it was on MotD)
They have indeed, just in time for him to revitalise the Blades and probably get a result against one of his old clubs, Oxford United, in 12 days time!
I honestly don't understand where you're coming from with that. Not one Burnley player complained; Hannibal knew instantly he'd screwed up. He turns away from the ball and his arm is sticking out, and under the current laws that's an obvious penalty
The Newcastle vs Wolves penalty incident is the dubious one. Mosquera for Wolves elbowed the Newcastle attacker in the neck in the penalty area without making any attempt for the ball whatsoever. VAR checked it and waved it away. If anything, Mosquera was the last man and should've been sent off!
Hannibal's handball was a blatant handball and he knew it himself, you're right.
The Newcastle vs Wolves penalty incident is the dubious one. Mosquera for Wolves elbowed the Newcastle attacker in the neck in the penalty area without making any attempt for the ball whatsoever. VAR checked it and waved it away. If anything, Mosquera was the last man and should've been sent off!
Hannibal's handball was a blatant handball and he knew it himself, you're right.
I think the Wolves one was outside the box so the VAR couldn't get involved on question of it being a penalty, but could and should on the basis of it being a blatant foul as the last man. I think the ref and VAR got distracted by the path of the ball, as it deflected away from goal off the Wolves defender after the contact. Without that, Barnes (I think it was him) is clean through. The reddest of red cards
Decide for yourself! (I was referring to club goal of the season, although I'm pretty sure it would be shortlisted for Goal of the Month if it was on MotD)
I honestly don't understand where you're coming from with that. Not one Burnley player complained; Hannibal knew instantly he'd screwed up. He turns away from the ball and his arm is sticking out, and under the current laws that's an obvious penalty
Decide for yourself! (I was referring to club goal of the season, although I'm pretty sure it would be shortlisted for Goal of the Month if it was on MotD)
Nice goal! You may be right.....not many 25yd volleys scored at that level, I'd imagine. The reaction of his teammates seemed like a mixture of astonishment and disbelief!
Once again Farnborough treat the Hampshire Senior Cup as a nuisance against a Winchester City team comprising numerous youth players and Craig Stanley on the bench.
There were some posts here a few months ago about the FA and their system for monitoring player suspensions, as at non-league level there have been a couple of recent cases of players who were banned playing in games and their clubs being charged.
It seems to have happened again with Bury, but it’s revealed what a truly amateur, unfit for purpose system it is:
Statement from Bury FC here:
⚪ Club Statement: FA Trophy
We would like to provide an update following news at the end of last week regarding the FA charges brought against the club for fielding an ineligible player.
With the Shakers 3-1 up in the FA Trophy tie against Wythenshawe Town, Gavin Massey was introduced for his debut on 66 minutes. It was subsequently brought to the player’s, and the club’s, attention that Massey had been dismissed in AFC Fylde’s final game of last season against Barnet.
Following the final whistle of that game, the referee brandished a red card in the direction of a group of players and staff of AFC Fylde in the changing room area.
Massey left AFC Fylde in the summer and signed with the Shakers on 1st September.
However, the FA Portal only allows clubs to see the player registration detail once a player has made their first appearance for the club, with the discipline records on the portal showing one suspension for the game, that of Aiden Walker’s following his dismissal against Stalybridge Celtic in the FA Cup replay in August.
After being introduced against Wythenshawe Town, Massey’s record became visible to the club and showed that he should have been suspended for the FA Trophy tie.
This evening, an FA hearing took place relating to the charges brought against both Bury Football Club, and Gavin Massey.
Having provided the FA with all mitigating evidence, the panel decided that Gavin Massey will now serve a one match ban.
A second hearing, in the case of the Football Club, has determined that the FA Trophy tie against Wythenshawe Town will be replayed.
The replay will take place at Ericstan Park tomorrow evening, Tuesday 16th September 2025, 7:45pm kick off.
Bury Football Club would like to put on record that no issues with player registrations occurred in this instance, and that usual processes were followed by our administration team in preparation for the FA Trophy tie.
I believe the FA are still asking clubs to use carbonated paper when nominating their teams instead of an online process which could flag suspended players and allow them to be replaced. How much money do the FA make from fines and where does it go?
There were some posts here a few months ago about the FA and their system for monitoring player suspensions, as at non-league level there have been a couple of recent cases of players who were banned playing in games and their clubs being charged.
It seems to have happened again with Bury, but it’s revealed what a truly amateur, unfit for purpose system it is:
Today Bradford’s leading scorer completed a 3- match suspension after picking up a red card in an FA Cup tie against Mossley in early August. Nothing unusual about this you make think except …
… the incident was not seen by the referee or his assistants. The player apparently was suspended purely on the say so of Mossley who apparently lodged an appeal with the FA, presumably with video evidence.
I have never heard of anything like this. What sort of precedent does this set?
Today Bradford’s leading scorer completed a 3- match suspension after picking up a red card in an FA Cup tie against Mossley in early August. Nothing unusual about this you make think except …
… the incident was not seen by the referee or his assistants. The player apparently was suspended purely on the say so of Mossley who apparently lodged an appeal with the FA, presumably with video evidence.
I have never heard of anything like this. What sort of precedent does this set?
If it was based on video evidence the suspension isn't at the say so of another team? Suspending players because an unseen incident was caught on video is common at all levels of the game.
An utterly mad game. Incessant rain all day in the north east and it was touch and go whether the game could start. By half time the ball didn’t bounce or roll freely on either wing, but on we went.
The ref gave three first half penalties, one to Gateshead (scored) and two to Halifax (one saved, one scored). So 1-1 at halftime and Halifax scored a second on the hour and saw the game out without any real concerns.
And something I’ve never seen before in 50 years of going to football matches. As a Gateshead player got the ball and looked up to decide what to do, the Halifax sub Jack Jenkins kicked water at him from a puddle to distract him
And something I’ve never seen before in 50 years of going to football matches. As a Gateshead player got the ball and looked up to decide what to do, the Halifax sub Jack Jenkins kicked water at him from a puddle to distract him
If it was based on video evidence the suspension isn't at the say so of another team? Suspending players because an unseen incident was caught on video is common at all levels of the game.
But that is normal surely? The whole point is the incident went unseen by the match officials, but you aren't at a level where Sky TV is picking it up. How else does any other unseen incident get dealt with at that level?
The two clubs might have very different access to video evidence (although Mossley were the away side on this occasion). So it may not be a level playing field. And in all my 65 years watching football, I’ve never come across an incident quite like it. I’m not even sure what Mossley stood to gain from their complain as the two clubs are in different regional divisions.
Today Bradford’s leading scorer completed a 3- match suspension after picking up a red card in an FA Cup tie against Mossley in early August. Nothing unusual about this you make think except …
… the incident was not seen by the referee or his assistants. The player apparently was suspended purely on the say so of Mossley who apparently lodged an appeal with the FA, presumably with video evidence.
So he didn't actually "pick up a red card"? He was charged on the basis of some video evidence. A process which would allowed him to have a personsl hearing and answer the charge.
And in all my 65 years watching football, I’ve never come across an incident quite like it. I’m not even sure what Mossley stood to gain from their complain as the two clubs are in different regional divisions.
In 65 years you haven't come across a player being charged retrospectively for an unseen off the ball incident based on video evidence? It is extremely common now.
Ah dry your eyes. Willie Collum (Head of Refereeing at the SFA) set out as recently as last Friday that penalties would be given under such circumstances - the player blocked the ball with an unnatural arm movement, and so the penalty was given. Boo hoo.
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