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[bnm]

but the incident you refer to was quite clearly not intentional. The referee just didn't realise.

So Osman didn't intentionally raise his hand and appeal to the referee after tripping over his own feet? And didn't look look the cat who'd got the cream after conning said referee?

 

[AlterEgo]

This is another statement I would expect only from a Liverpool fan (I seem to recall you telling me otherwise previously though). I know I'm an Everton fan and therefore my opinion isn't really valid, but the incident you refer to was quite clearly not intentional. The referee just didn't realise. MOTD called it correctly. Until now, everyone I know who has seen the incident (I forget which match it was) has agreed with them as well.

Osman cheated in the incident described. He appealed for a penalty knowing he had not been fouled. The end.

Everyone does it at every club.

 

[Ivo]

All right then, I shall see if I can find it on Youtube. Anyone remember who it was against?

...nope. Nothing. No video. So I can't give a definitive response.

I don't remember seeing him raising his arm in protest. But, if he did, then shame on him.

 

[Oswyntail]

....I don't remember seeing him raising his arm in protest...

Of course, he could have been raising his arm while saying to the ref "It's OK, no foul, I tripped over my size 10s". But, of course, tainted by all the evidence of cheating in the game, we all assume the worst. And, as for looking smug (or winking - remember that) afterwards - well, a critical decision has just gone in your team's favour. And he would have looked a right plonker if he had argued with the ref and got booked.

 

[ACE1888]

So wrong
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepag...e-Luke-McCormick-set-for-soccer-comeback.html

 

[richw]

So wrong
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepag...e-Luke-McCormick-set-for-soccer-comeback.html

I agree and disagree with being wrong, If he has served his time if the employer are willing to offer him employment, then I cant see a problem.
The problem is that he is in a public eye.
If a Tesco worker serrved his time would tesco re-employ and would you see that as wrong, or is it just wrong for him to get employment because he is in public eye?

 

[EM2]

Joey Barton has been given a twelve match ban for his behaviour during the match against Manchester City.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/18183661

 

[bnm]

All right then, I shall see if I can find it on Youtube. Anyone remember who it was against?

...nope. Nothing. No video. So I can't give a definitive response.

I don't remember seeing him raising his arm in protest. But, if he did, then shame on him.

He didn't just raise his arm in protest, he thumped the ground in anger after the ref didn't immediately blow for a penalty. Ref then awards penalty. Conned.

http://www.whoateallthepies.tv/ever...osmans-blatant-cheating-ignored-by-media.html

 

[Ivo]

Not the best of angles on either clip (the main one or the slow-mo), but from what you can see the signs aren't great. There is evidence of at least a little frsutration at seemingly not winning the penalty.

I fail to see what was so bad about this one incident in comparison to all the stunts pulled by Drogba, Torres, Ronaldo and others though.

Or Saint Gerrard for that matter: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uVb2gbMtN3I

 

[bnm]

I fail to see what was so bad about this one incident in comparison to all the stunts pulled by Drogba, Torres, Ronaldo and others though.

Just one blatant example I remember clearly, having a Mackem friend who was apoplectic that day.

 

[Xenophon PCDGS]

Joey Barton has been given a twelve match ban for his behaviour during the match against Manchester City.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/18183661

The fine of £75,000 should have been considerably more, considering what his monthly salary equates to.

Even the Professional Footballers Association will find it hard to come up with any defence of Barton when all his past disdememours are taken into account.

 

[Ivo]

Perhaps we should encourage Pay-as-you-Play contracts? The fear of getting banned for a period such as this would make players think twice before committing such despicable acts (or diving ).

I know it would never work, because players would then poverty (oh please!), but it would improve the game's conduct.

 

[ACE1888]

I agree and disagree with being wrong, If he has served his time if the employer are willing to offer him employment, then I cant see a problem.
The problem is that he is in a public eye.
If a Tesco worker serrved his time would tesco re-employ and would you see that as wrong, or is it just wrong for him to get employment because he is in public eye?

I am a Tesco worker and they wouldn't employ someone again

 

[Johnuk123]

Joey Barton has been given a twelve match ban for his behaviour during the match against Manchester City.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/18183661

Should have been 12 months, he's a thug pure and simple.

 

[SS4]

Should have been 12 months, he's a thug pure and simple.

But if he was good enough to make the England team he'd have had his judgement deferred past Euro 2012 :roll:

 

[richw]

I am a Tesco worker and they wouldn't employ someone again

When i worked at McDs we had several employees who had served time, the company had the opinion that they had served their time and should get a chance.
My new employers completed enhanced CRB checks so not so sure they would employ.
I used Tesco as an example, without knowing their policy, but would the opinion be the same if he was released and worked in an every day job?
Are you at penzance Tesco then?

 

[ACE1888]

When i worked at McDs we had several employees who had served time, the company had the opinion that they had served their time and should get a chance.
My new employers completed enhanced CRB checks so not so sure they would employ.
I used Tesco as an example, without knowing their policy, but would the opinion be the same if he was released and worked in an every day job?
Are you at penzance Tesco then?

28 years and counting...backdoor/warehouse, for my sins...

 

[Donny Dave]

I have a feeling that Barton will be released by QPR now, and that he will have a fair bit of difficulty in finding a new club.

No matter which club he's at next season, he'll be banned for a third of the EPL season, or a quarter of the Championship season. If someone does sign him and pay him a lot of money, then he's a very lucky person indeed.

Just to clear up 1 thing about his £75000 fine. Due to the archiac rules (set by the FA) still in existence, both clubs and the FA can only fine a player a maximum of 2 weeks wages. Believe it or not, clubs have to get a players permission if they want to fine them more than that.

Mind you, at least a couple of players have agreed to that in the past. Both Bowyer and Woodgate while they were still at Leeds Utd were convicted of assault. Leeds fined them 8 and 6 weeks wages. Both players agreed to this and asked for the money to go to local charities and good causes.

 

[Ivo]

If a club fines a player, who would usually get the money? In the case you've alluded to it would have been very un-Leeds-like to not pocket the money themselves, so good on them for agreeing, but if they hadn't?

 

[Donny Dave]

If it's the club issueing the fine, they get the money, same for the FA.

 

[AlterEgo]

And he would have looked a right plonker if he had argued with the ref and got booked.

Remember Robbie Fowler who fell over at Arsenal and protested with the ref that it wasn't a penalty in about 1996-97? He was applauded for his honesty.

Remember when Paolo Di Canio caught the ball in 2001 after an Everton goalkeeper (was it Paul Gerrard?) was down with a serious injury, even though Di Canio had a clear chance to score? Also applauded.

Every team has their fair share of divers. It's not just Ashley Young and Didier Drogba. Let he who is without sin cast the first stone.

 

[EM2]

Both Bowyer and Woodgate while they were still at Leeds Utd were convicted of assault. Leeds fined them 8 and 6 weeks wages. Both players agreed to this and asked for the money to go to local charities and good causes.

Er, no. Charged with causing grievous bodily harm with intent and affray, Bowyer was cleared of both charges and Woodgate was convicted of affray.

 

[Donny Dave]

Er, no. Charged with causing grievous bodily harm with intent and affray, Bowyer was cleared of both charges and Woodgate was convicted of affray.

Fair enough. It seems my memory is getting a bit faded in my old age

 

[YorkshireRider]

Also while Bowyer accepted the fine in the end, he wasnt happy about it and his relationship with board and manager never recovered.

 

[Ivo]

It seems we might finally be getting somewhere with goal-line technology!

From the BBC:

Goal-line technology to be trialled in England friendly

Goal-line technology will be tested at Wembley when England host Belgium in a friendly on 2 June.

Hawk-Eye, a camera-based system, will be used by independent testers during England's final game before Euro 2012.

But the match officials will have no access to data and the trial will have no impact on any contentious goal-line decisions.

Calls for goal-line technology have increased with dubious decisions marring a number of high profile games last season.

Weeks of talks between Fifa, the Football Association and Hawk-Eye have resulted in an England international being selected to experiment goal-line technology.

In March, football's law-makers - the International Football Association Board (IFAB) - approved two companies - Hawk-Eye and GoalRef - to take part in the second phase of goal-line technology testing.

IFAB are due to make a final decision on the introduction of goal-line technology in early July.

[If approved] any league or competition will be free to introduce the systems if they wish.

Despite the Premier League's long-term enthusiasm, the indications are that there may not be sufficient time to install a system in all 20 top-flight stadiums in time for the start of the 2012-13 season.

About time too! Still, at least Blatter and co. are starting to see sense now. Too bad we'll probably have to wait another season yet...

 

[EM2]

Bet there's a sweepstake in the England camp to see who's the first to get one in off the bar

 

[AlterEgo]

What happens if there are no goal line incidents to call? Seems like a bit of a daft test to be honest...

 

[richw]

What happens if there are no goal line incidents to call? Seems like a bit of a daft test to be honest...

Think they will test even when there's goals to analyse whether it detects the right timed of ball crossing the line. Only problem will occur if its nil nil

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[313103]

Remember Robbie Fowler who fell over at Arsenal and protested with the ref that it wasn't a penalty in about 1996-97? He was applauded for his honesty.

Remember it well, Seaman made the penalty save but it was scored on the rebound. Which proved to be the winning goal as Liverpool won 1-2.

 

[CC 72100]

So, Sepp Blatter wants an alternative to penalty shoot-outs. I'm not a massive fan of them, but sometimes it's the only way to get a winner. However, am I just being cynical, or is it somewhat ironic that he has said this after a German team (Bayern Munich) lost the Champions league final on pens, and is asking the honorary president of Bayern to look into it? Or just a mere coincidence http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/18205513