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DarloRich

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I'd rather my team lost and be entertained than win and be bored.

I want to win. I don't care if it is 52 weeks of grinding 1-0 wins. Who cares when you get Champions next to your name. All this not in the X FC style does my head in.

Win first then win well.
 

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Let's hope that the Chinese do the right thing and sell off the land for Apartments... Alternatively they could sell it to Blues, saves the need for having to build a new stadium

They can get the owner to literally make them some more money ;)
 

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Why would you want a new stadium when you can't fill the one that you have?

The comment was supposed to be tongue in cheek. Having said that, Blues were seeking a new stadium about 9 years ago and it was going to be built on the site of the go kart track by the London-Birmingham railway at Adderley Park, but permission wasn't granted.
 

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The comment was supposed to be tongue in cheek. Having said that, Blues were seeking a new stadium about 9 years ago and it was going to be built on the site of the go kart track by the London-Birmingham railway at Adderley Park, but permission wasn't granted.

The owners at the time wanted Birmingham City Council to fund it though IIRC.
Look where them owners are now and what they have been given
 

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The owners at the time wanted Birmingham City Council to fund it though IIRC.
Look where them owners are now and what they have been given

Was it that dodgy ******* Carson Yeung? I remember when he got done a few years back.
 

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I want to win. I don't care if it is 52 weeks of grinding 1-0 wins. Who cares when you get Champions next to your name. All this not in the X FC style does my head in.

Win first then win well.
I can't disagree more with this. if all that matters is the result, why watch at all? Why not just check the newspaper the next day?
'Oh, Darlo won 1-0 again. Excellent, that's twenty in a row now'.
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The owners at the time wanted Birmingham City Council to fund it though IIRC.
Look where them owners are now and what they have been given
Do you mean 'what they have bid for through two bidding processes and found to offer the best bid'?
 

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Mourinho's move to Man Utd apparently held up by issues with his image rights. It seems Chelsea still literally own 'Jose Mourinho'. :lol:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/36382637

And an exhaustive list of what Chelsea can do with this name.

https://www.ipo.gov.uk/tmcase/Results/4/EU004365755

Negotiations over Jose Mourinho's image rights are delaying him becoming the new Manchester United manager.

Mourinho is expected to replace sacked Louis van Gaal, with talks ongoing between his agent Jorge Mendes and United officials.

But it has emerged that Chelsea still own the 'Jose Mourinho' name as a trademark - meaning United may need to pay a six-figure sum for the rights.

However, the issue will not scupper any deal, which is expected this week.

Discussions will now enter a third day, despite the deal to bring the 53-year-old former Chelsea boss to Old Trafford being largely complete. On Wednesday, Mourinho told waiting reporters at his home in London that he was going to Portugal.

What is the hold-up?

Chelsea registered both the name Jose Mourinho and his signature as a European trademark in 2005, meaning they can use it to sell merchandise such as toiletries, technology, clothing and jewellery.

Sports lawyer Carol Couse told BBC Sport it was "really unusual" for an individual not to own the trademark to their own name.

"Chelsea could be earning revenue every time someone uses Mourinho's name. It could prevent United from exploiting his signature," said Couse, of law firm Mills & Reeve.

"One of the things United will be looking to acquire is not only Mourinho's image but also his name.

"If United had a brand of Mourinho clothing it would be in breach of the trademark Chelsea currently own."

What are the possible solutions?

Mourinho cannot override the trademark, so the options are

*United do not use Mourinho's name against the exhaustive list of items that Chelsea have registered - read the full list here
*United pay Chelsea for a licence so they can use Mourinho's name on club merchandise
*United ask Mourinho to buy the trademark back
*United challenge trademark if they can prove it has not been used by Chelsea

"That would be pretty costly," said Couse, who estimated the fee for a licence as "hundreds of thousands of pounds".

"Look at the value of the deals that have been done for Mourinho to date. What would be the value of a Jose Mourinho watch?

"He has managed Inter and Real since then. They have either acquired the rights from Chelsea or managed the use of his name.

"If Chelsea didn't grant a licence, every time United used Jose Mourinho's name in a commercial capacity against those products, Chelsea could sue Manchester United. I would suspect United would rather just pay a licence fee."

Any other issues?

There is also potential conflict between Mourinho's personal deals - such as his one with car manufacturer Jaguar - and United's shirt sponsor agreement with Chevrolet.

"I don't think that in itself would hold up any negotiation," Couse explained. "A lot of world-class players go to Manchester United with their own personal deals. Mourinho's deals will be in a personal capacity."

Couse said United cannot force Mourinho to drive a Chevrolet car, for example, or wear Chevrolet clothes outside of club capacity, but they could pay him an incentive to buy out the Jaguar deal early.
 
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I can't disagree more with this. if all that matters is the result, why watch at all? Why not just check the newspaper the next day?
'Oh, Darlo won 1-0 again. Excellent, that's twenty in a row now'.

That did us last season. Grind out the points, win the league and get promoted. Another step on the long journey home. We overhauled a 12 point deficit and lost something like 2 out of 20. They weren't all 1-0's though ;)
 

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That did us last season. Grind out the points, win the league and get promoted. Another step on the long journey home. We overhauled a 12 point deficit and lost something like 2 out of 20. They weren't all 1-0's though ;)

To this day, noting how Hyde United disasterously ended last season, I cannot understand how Hyde United went to your ground one week and knocked you out of the F A Cup and the following week beat you on your ground again in the league, scoring three goals against you on both occasions.
 

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To this day, noting how Hyde United disasterously ended last season, I cannot understand how Hyde United went to your ground one week and knocked you out of the F A Cup and the following week beat you on your ground again in the league, scoring three goals against you on both occasions.

because we played badly and Hyde played well. We were in the middle of a run of one win in 6. We responded by getting some better players in, a change of tactics/shape and lost 4 in 27 from December to the end of the season including beating Hyde 3-1 away ;)

(Prior to December we played 19 and lost 5.)
 

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That did us last season. Grind out the points, win the league and get promoted. Another step on the long journey home. We overhauled a 12 point deficit and lost something like 2 out of 20. They weren't all 1-0's though ;)
I've lived through four seasons of Sam Allardyce 'football'. It was horrendous, even when the team were winning it was (mostly) painful to watch. And when the team were losing, it was even worse :(
 

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I've lived through four seasons of Sam Allardyce 'football'. It was horrendous, even when the team were winning it was (mostly) painful to watch. And when the team were losing, it was even worse :(

West Ham? BFS secured premier league security and stability that allowed Bilic to build on solid foundations. Something West Ham have often lacked........

Sunderland stayed up because BFS knows what he is doing - it ain't pretty but it works.
 

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West Ham? BFS secured premier league security and stability that allowed Bilic to build on solid foundations. Something West Ham have often lacked........

Sunderland stayed up because BFS knows what he is doing - it ain't pretty but it works.

Boo!!! they just got lucky ;)

However Im pleased Rafa has decided to stay and work on what he started.
 

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I am shocked Newcastle seem to have taken a sensible decision! What is Ashley playing at? Rafa out. Dennis Wise in!

Steady on you. I think its finally dawned on him that he took action too late and this is what has happned and his grand scheme hasnt worked at all. Yes we have got decent income but it never granted us survival.

will be a bit of a rollercoaster for sure . Cant wait :)
 

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Here in Oldham we may be having our sixth manager in 18 months as it look like John Sheridan will become new Notts County manager some time tomorrow. funny enough Oldham haven't said anything about this parfrom yesterday when they said that "they have not received an approach for him" yet today Notts County are making out that he will become new manager as he already agreed three years deal with them. :?
 
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West Ham? BFS secured premier league security and stability that allowed Bilic to build on solid foundations. Something West Ham have often lacked........

Sunderland stayed up because BFS knows what he is doing - it ain't pretty but it works.

If I was at a small team I'd want Sam or Tony at the helm. Dull football but safety guarantees- if I'm not mistaken neither ever relegated from the premier league?
 

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Here in Oldham we may be having our sixth manager in 18 months as it look like John Sheridan will become new Notts County manager some time tomorrow. funny enough Oldham haven't said anything about this parfrom yesterday when they said that "they have not received an approach for him" yet today Notts County are making out that he will become new manager as he already agreed three years deal with them. :?

And it was confirm today that John Sheridan have left Oldham and become new Notts County boss.

John Sheridan has left Oldham Athletic to become Notts County's new manager on a three-year contract.

Sheridan, 51, led Oldham to 17th in League One after taking over from David Dunn in January.

"There are several reasons behind this move and not all will be apparent to everyone, but John goes with my blessing and eternal thanks for his tremendous effort," Latics chairman Simon Corney told his club's website.


http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/36397455

Sad to see him go as it wasn't for him Oldham would been playing in League two next season (2016/17) I felt if he stayed in charge then I would say Oldham would finishes in top half maybe pushing for play offs next season, now I fell we need someone good to be charge as if not then I can see Oldham 20 years stay in third tier coming to end.
 
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West Ham? BFS secured premier league security and stability that allowed Bilic to build on solid foundations. Something West Ham have often lacked........
But not necessarily what West Ham supporters wanted. I'll concede that it is almost certainly what the West Ham board wanted, though...
 

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But not necessarily what West Ham supporters wanted. I'll concede that it is almost certainly what the West Ham board wanted, though...

so: nice football and lose rather than functional football and win

That functional football laid the foundations which allowed West Ham to challenge at a much higher level than they have for years?
 

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Noting the four positions in the Manchester United team that Mourinho says need new players in, one being that of a dominant centre-forward, has anyone any idea what role would Anthony Martial then fill?


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Championship play-off final

Hull City 1...Sheffield Wednesday 0
 
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Noting the four positions in the Manchester United team that Mourinho says need new players in, one being that of a dominant centre-forward, has anyone any idea what role would Anthony Martial then fill?

The same as he has all this season, out on the left.
 

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VICTORY!!!

Hull City 1 - 0 Sheffield Wednesday!

Me and the old man listened to it on the radio and were dancing around the room when Big Mo scored his goal. And what a magnificent goal it was too... At least 25 yards with a full power volley

VTEC have already taken the proverbial you-know-what out of East Midlands Trains over the result
 

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VICTORY!!!

Hull City 1 - 0 Sheffield Wednesday!

Me and the old man listened to it on the radio and were dancing around the room when Big Mo scored his goal. And what a magnificent goal it was too... At least 25 yards with a full power volley

VTEC have already taken the proverbial you-know-what out of East Midlands Trains over the result

Gutted for Sheffield Wednesday - a city of their size really should have a top-flight team...
 

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