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Liam

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They may well have seen it but I don't think they are allowed to signal a foul. I imagine goal line technology will see them gone.

http://www.uefa.com/uefa/footballfirst/matchorganisation/refereeing/news/newsid=879407.html

"the additional assistant referees will provide two extra pairs of eyes to monitor the game and ensure that the Laws of the Game are upheld, informing the referee of incidents of any kind that he may otherwise have missed, particularly in key areas of the field like the penalty area and its surroundings. The referee will remain in sole charge of the match and the only match official with decision-making powers."

(my bold)
 
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http://www.uefa.com/uefa/footballfirst/matchorganisation/refereeing/news/newsid=879407.html

"the additional assistant referees will provide two extra pairs of eyes to monitor the game and ensure that the Laws of the Game are upheld, informing the referee of incidents of any kind that he may otherwise have missed, particularly in key areas of the field like the penalty area and its surroundings. The referee will remain in sole charge of the match and the only match official with decision-making powers."

(my bold)

In that case I guess football commentators know less about the game than I thought.
 

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He fully deserved the 10 match ban, especially when you consider he has bitten before and got 7 matches for it. It would have been utterly stupid to say, "Oh you've done it before, here's another 7 game ban". Its about deterrent and making sure he doesn't do it again. Its just an aggressive, pre medidated, nasty attack. Its not like a two footed tackle where the ball is at stake, he's gone out his way to bite someone. If your average match on the street had gone it, they'd be police involved.
 

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Seems a bit harsh to me - the skin was not broken - would probably have got less for a tackle that did real damage like breaking someones leg :idea:

Possibly, but I guess the fact that he had already been banned for seven games previously for the very same offence made a lot of the difference.

Clearly he is not learning.
 

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... Its just an aggressive, pre medidated, nasty attack. Its not like a two footed tackle where the ball is at stake, he's gone out his way to bite someone. ...
I very much doubt that it was "pre-meditated" - unlike some of the two-footed tackles one sees. Reverting to childishness tends to be spur of the moment.Yes, it's nasty, but no nastier than some of the violence that gets a yellow card.
 

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I very much doubt that it was "pre-meditated" - unlike some of the two-footed tackles one sees. Reverting to childishness tends to be spur of the moment.Yes, it's nasty, but no nastier than some of the violence that gets a yellow card.

And no 10 game ban :p
 

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I dont think Suarez's ban should be greater than the 3 matches Keane got for this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p_st29mlQwU
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surprised nobody mentioned about Bayern watering/ turning the centre circle to a swamp to stop Barca with some of their passes!
 

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Repeat offence is irrelevant when Keane went out to delibrately injure and ended a players career.
 

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What was the intention?

Moving Ivanovic's arms towards his mouth and at the least burying his jaw / mouth into it certainly strikes me as intending, or at least implying to do so, of biting.

Repeat offence is irrelevant when Keane went out to delibrately injure and ended a players career.

... Except for it didn't end his career. he retired the season after owing to an injury to his other knee...
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As a side thought, what would happen nowadays if the Battle of Santiago was to happen? Suarez's bite is the high point of friendship by the standards there!
 

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I wouldn't worry, the way football's going tackling will soon be outlawed and everyone will play like Spain making for a very boring game
 

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I think Keane was actually banned for eight matches.

Three at first and then five more after he admitted in his autobiography it was intentional.

It wasn't career ending either.
 

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Keane got three for the red card (not the foul) and five for 'bringing the game into disrepute' when his book came out. Manchester United felt it was lenient and did not appeal the five match ban for fear of it being increased (they admitted expecting the ban to be longer).

I believe people are seeing Suarez's bite as something that could have broken the skin and so it is not unreasonable to see Keane's challenge as one that could have ended a career.
 
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I think Keane was actually banned for eight matches.

Three at first and then five more after he admitted in his autobiography it was intentional.

It wasn't career ending either.

Keane was due to have surgery anyway and miss loads of games so his ban meant nothing.

Has anyone on here come across the Wealdstone Raider yet? Its gone viral.
 

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Signor Mancini is known for moaning about this, that and the other and saying that United are or have this, that or the other. We are all used to this from him, and his apparent version of the mind games that SAF has made so famous.

All season, he has been saying that signing van Persie would win United the title, and now, he is saying he has been proven right. BBC articles on the matter, with #2 being the main one: 1 2 3

Well, the BBC have calculated the effect of the top scorer factor in the Premier League, and rewritten the table based on how it would be without the goals of each club's top scorer. Has RVP really made that of a difference? Are Liverpool and especially Tottenham really one-man teams? How do the lower clubs with goals spread throughout the team fare? And is Michu truly the signing of the season?

Let's find out...

METHODOLOGY: If we take the game when Liverpool beat Norwich 5-2, Luis Suarez scored a hat-trick. So if you take his goals out, the game looks like a draw BUT Norwich's leading scorer Grant Holt also scored one goal for his side. This means the net score would have been 2-1 to Liverpool and Suarez's heroics resulted in a net contribution of zero points.

Code:
[B]                        Difference
 P   Team          Pts    Pos  Pts[/B]
 1   Man Utd        65     ±0  -19
 2   Arsenal        58     +1  - 5
 3   Man City       57     -1  -11
 4   Chelsea        57     ±0  - 5
 5   Everton        49     +1  - 7
 6   Tottenham      46     -1  -15
 7   Liverpool      42     ±0  - 9
 8   West Ham       37     +2  - 5
 9   West Brom      36     -1  - 9
10   Swansea        35     -1  - 7
11   Norwich        34     +2  - 4
12   Southampton    31     ±0  - 8
13   Stoke          31     +2  - 6
14   Newcastle      31     +2  - 6
15   Fulham         30     -4  -10
16   Sunderland     29     -2  - 8
17   Wigan          26     +1  - 5
18   Aston Villa    21     -1  -13
19   QPR            20     ±0  - 4
20   Reading        16     ±0  - 8

In other words, yes, RVP has made a huge difference - United lose more points than anyone else. However, this would have been mostly early in the season when the defence didn't know where its own goal was, so a stronger defence akin to that seen in February and March would have drastically reduced this. And ultimately they still win anyway; just by a far smaller margin.

Notable beneficiaries include Arsenal, who are in the top two, Everton, who are in the Europa League spot (:p), and Wigan, who are outside the drop zone. Notable losers include Tottenham, Fulham and Aston Villa; of these three clubs, two are known to depend on the services of one certain player. In other words, Tottenham are less of a force without Bale - and Villa are doomed without Benteke...

Interestingly, Michu doesn't make that much of a difference! Or rather, he doesn't until the next table is considered: The percentage values of goals scored by each club's top scorer...

Code:
[B] P   Team           Top Scorer  Gls  % Gls  % Pts[/B]
 1   Aston Villa    Benteke     15   41.67  38.24
 2   Swansea        Michu       17   39.53  16.67
 3   Liverpool      Suarez      23   37.70  17.65
 4   Tottenham      Bale        18   31.03  24.59
 5   Newcastle      Ba          13   30.23  16.22
 6   Man Utd        van Persie  24   29.79  22.62
 7   West Brom      Lakaku      13   29.55  17.65
 8   Southampton    Lambert     14   28.95  20.51
 9   Fulham         Berbatov    13   27.02  25.00
10   Sunderland     Fletcher    11   27.02  21.62
11   Wigan          Kone        10   23.33  16.13
12   Reading        Le Fondre   10   21.57  33.33
13   Stoke          Walters      7   20.33  16.22
14   Everton        Fellaini    11   18.46  12.50
15   Man City       Dzeko       12   18.18  16.18
16   Arsenal        Cazorla     12   17.50   7.94
17   QPR            Remy         5   17.24  16.67
18   West Ham       Nolan        7   17.24  11.90
19   Chelsea        Lampard     12   17.24   8.06
20   Norwich        Holt         5   15.15  10.53

Note that I have swapped West Ham and Chelsea on the basis that I am using points difference as a tie-breaker, whereas the BBC have no obvious tie-breaking criteria.

The most interesting point here is that most of the six European challengers are down the bottom end of the table. Does this prove United's dominance, or that they are more dependent on van Persie than other top teams on their top scorers? In my opinion, both are correct! One will also see just how high up Liverpool and Tottenham are, with their respective cheats "stars" clearly making enormous differences to them.

Oh, and Newcastle fans: Hang your heads in shame.
 

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I'm glad Ivo didn't do that for League 1, as without Leon Clarke's goals, the alternative tables would show Scunthorpe well and truly down ....

PS. 4 months after Clarke left the club, he's still our top scorer. Says a lot about the players signed by Knill ....
 

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tl;dr - Benteke is awesome :D

If there's one thing this PL season has shown it's that the Belgians are taking over. In fact you could almost make a plausible Belgian national XI out of PL footballers: GK Mignolet, D Vermaelen Kompany Vertonghen, M Hazard Dembélé Fellaini, F Benteke Mirallas Lukaku. Throw in another defender (e.g. van Buyten) and you've got a pretty formidable team.
 

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Well at least the Wolves finally know for sure which division they're in next season and it ain't the Championship.
We must be without any doubt whatsoever the most badly managed and organised club in the country.
Morgan might be a good ex brickie but as a Football chairman he's worse than the Venkys.
 

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Well at least the Wolves finally know for sure which division they're in next season and it ain't the Championship.
We must be without any doubt whatsoever the most badly managed and organised club in the country.
Morgan might be a good ex brickie but as a Football chairman he's worse than the Venkys.

Looks like some attendees are intent on causing trouble at Molineux
 

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Well, at least Scunthorpe leave League 1 with a bang. A 3-1 win against Swindon is academic as Colchester won 2-0 away to Carlisle.

Btw, I think I'm the only person to score points from this fixture in the Prediction League :D 8-)
 

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Doncaster are champion of League One as Brentford miss a very late penalty (I think in 96th mins) and Doncaster went up field and score, what a way to end a match if u where Doncaster fan.

Unlucky to Scunthorpe but I think they should do well in League Two next season maybe even top 7 place?

Oldham draw 1-1 to Leyton Orient so don't bad way to end season and finish 19th in table which I probably took about four weeks ago so not bad place to finish in table.

Wolves look more likely to be playing Oldham in League one next season after they lost 2-1 to Burnley mean Wolves have to beat Brighton next Saturday and hope that Barnsley lose at Huddersfield, amazing to think last year they was in Premiership and now look like be playing League One football come May 4th.
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I'm thinking that Alty could take fourth in Halifax's place (if Alty Beat Halifax, CHester beat Halifax, and then whatever happens at Stalybridge to Halifax, plus Alty beat Droylsden.) I already know that Brackley are fishing 3rd this season.

^^ Well u be happy tonight as Altrincham won 6-0 against Droylsden and Stalybridge beat Halifax 1-0 mean in play offs is Guiseley v Halifax and Brackley v Altrincham, do u think u can beat Brackley and then beat Guiseley or Halifax in Play Offs final?
 

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