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TheGrandWazoo

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You must be the only driver I've ever heard say that. streetlites are the worst thing ever to come out of the bus industry
There was a Sheffield driver who posted on this forum. His view was that they were ok, depending on the engine, but acknowledged that the brakes/retarder were harsh.

There have been worse vehicles too! Have you ever travelled on a DAF SB220LF/Plaxton Prestige? That was pretty bad, and god forbid you travelled on a Bristol LHS!
 
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Glasgowbusguy

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Another total first Glasgow failure tonight no buses on Duke Street (both directions) from at least 20:09 until at least 21:15 when I gave up and got an Uber. Can't blame football traffic as the 46 and 189 turned up with minimum delay (under 5 minutes).similar on gallowgate as a few people arrived on duke st saying nothing had turned up there apart from a 255 that sailed past as it was full.
 
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I’ve noticed the ADL E400EV demonstrator has started to stretch its legs again after being confined to the 5 in recent months. It’s been on the 38 and 61.

Glasgow tends to confine its non standard buses to the 5 for driver training purposes. 70101 was kept strictly to the 5 during its time on loan as was 33693.

Could be looking too into it but I wonder if with the plans to keep ADL Camelon opened - Glasgow has been put under some pressure to source locally and plans to order more ADL E400EVs?
70101 was on the 31 all the time not the 5, The Leicester Reds E400 was strictly kept on the 5, there was once it went on a 60A but only to cover a breakdown
 

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I wouldn't exactly call the Ex-Glasgow E300s solid underneath... The outgoing Streetlites are better in that regard, but the running gear itself is better on the E300s.

Aberdeen have been wanting to standardise the diesel single deck fleet on the E300s for quite some time. When looked after they're very reliable and cheap to run, albeit since the fitting of the Euro 6 exhaust systems they've been plagued by emissions lights. The Streetlites in comparison are not as reliable and not really suited to the Aberdeen network with their cramped interiors.

To be fair 63208 is one of the better ones. The Streetlites vary depending on the gearbox programme as not all of them are the same, it tends to be that you either get one that's fast and jumpy or sluggish but less jumpy.

Glasgow have actually done not too bad with the Ex-Aberdeen Streetlites. Most of the ones they've received are the better ones of the batch. 63209 in particuarly was very good. In contrast Halifax getting 63194 and 63196 is rather unfortunate for them. :lol:
One of the better ones, despite the fact Glasgow haven’t even given the time to repaint it out of the Aberdeen 23 route livery.

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At the risk of going off topic, having driven First Scotstoun Depots E300 & StreetLites, the StreetLite is a much better drive. Given the choice, I'd take the StreetLite.
The drivers at Scotstoun have said they’ll be happy for when the Streetdeck Repowers arrive and get rid of some of the E300s there.
 

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An eyewitness said: "I was standing at the bus stop facing the Ark bar, on North Frederick Street.

"The 57A was parked at the bus top I was standing at and it began rolling backwards towards the corner of Flight Club. It eventually came to a halt after crashing into the building and street signs.

"People came within inches of being run over by the bus. I helped usher people off the bus as quickly as possible, there were no injuries on the bus.

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70101 was kept strictly to the 5 during its time on loan as was 33693.
70101 was reserved for the 31, not the 5.

There's not been a concrete explanation for why some of the loanees were sticking to one route aside from 38400. A couple people said it was to do with their lack of a cash vault but I really don't know how that could influence it.

The fact that 38600 has been on and off sticking to the 5 suggests a driver familiarisation motive like you said, as that certainly has a cash vault now. But clearly when Caley got the Repowers and 63208, there must have been a realisation that it's probably not worth keeping certain models out of reach from drivers who may not have had a shot of them yet.

[Edit: I didn't see any of the newer messages. Sorry]
 

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One of the better ones, despite the fact Glasgow haven’t even given the time to repaint it out of the Aberdeen 23 route livery.

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The drivers at Scotstoun have said they’ll be happy for when the Streetdeck Repowers arrive and get rid of some of the E300s there.
Have they asked what the drivers in cally think of the streetdecks, a bet they prefere the E300s
 

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One of the better ones, despite the fact Glasgow haven’t even given the time to repaint it out of the Aberdeen 23 route livery.
If you read the post it is in reply to you will see the comment about 63208 was in regard to performance, the exterior colour of the bus is irrelevent.
 

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Is there a reason why Bustimes aren’t showing the X85 87, X87, 88, and 89 routes for First Glasgow anymore?
 

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Another total first Glasgow failure tonight no buses on Duke Street (both directions) from at least 20:09 until at least 21:15 when I gave up and got an Uber. Can't blame football traffic as the 46 and 189 turned up with minimum delay (under 5 minutes).similar on gallowgate as a few people arrived on duke st saying nothing had turned up there apart from a 255 that sailed past as it was full.
I use the First App in Duke St. If there's a bus shown and its actually moving on the map then I wait. Usually I walk as its about as quick as the bus and there's no standing around
 

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I use the First App in Duke St. If there's a bus shown and its actually moving on the map then I wait. Usually I walk as its about as quick as the bus and there's no standing around
Walking isn't an option as I am going cross city and I would rather not walk that. The map on the app wasn't loading , but there is still no excuse for no buses on a major road for over an hour your talking multiple 41s , 60s and 60A's failing to run in both directions.
 

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Noticed a decker on the 201, not seen one on the 201 in while.
There has been at least one decker on a Sunday for a good few weeks now. Week day allocations are sporadic.

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The 201 would be a good contender for electric buses once Blantyre goes electric. The E300s are ageing.
Given the length of the route, would the batteries last?
 

JumpinTrainz

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There has been at least one decker on a Sunday for a good few weeks now. Week day allocations are sporadic.

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Given the length of the route, would the batteries last?
Depends which buses they order. If they’re sensible and get the correct range - anything is possible.
 
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Was seen on the 38 today
According to the latest fleet changes for FirstGroup,

Repowered Streetdeck 71033 (HIG1533) has finally entered service, as has Streetlite 63109 (SM13NCU) which came up from Manchester last year but never saw service. Streetlite 47596 has transferred to Dumbarton from Essex. Streetlites 63201, 63217 & 63218 have moved from Aberdeen to Overtown.
 
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According to the latest fleet changes for FirstGroup,

Repowered Streetdeck 71033 (HIG1533) has finally entered service, as has Streetlite 63109 (SM13NCU) which came up from Manchester last year but never saw service. Streetlite 47596 has transferred to Dumbarton from Essex. Streetlites 63201, 63217 & 63218 have moved from Aberdeen to Overtown.
Green Essex Streetlites 14 plates have a nice interior I'm sure that batch had a slight refurbishment a few years back when they where at Southampton, also have the White LED hanovers, good to see a shuffle about of more quirky stuff rather than it just being your bog standard Wright and ADL stuff, Fleet has been boring for years
 

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