The 05 plates will not be scrapped anytime soon apart from Overtown's 42888 which the last i heard was an donor bus for the other working darts. As far as I am aware the other 3 05 plates are running perfectly fine. If they are due for retirement they will still get repainted regardless. look at 61617 which could be withdrawn at anytime now and also 65696 which was repainted and has now been withdrawn (on reserve)
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TheGrandWazoo
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“67101, 67102 and 67105 have now arrived at First Cymru, upseated and repainted in two-tone blue. They join 67106, which transferred in April, though hasn't been reseated.”
Upseated, you say?
There were reports of these heading to the X3/X11 and gaining the new Cymru Clipper livery?
Upseated, you say?
There were reports of these heading to the X3/X11 and gaining the new Cymru Clipper livery?
Jordan Adam
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“67101, 67102 and 67105 have now arrived at First Cymru, upseated and repainted in two-tone blue. They join 67106, which transferred in April, though hasn't been reseated.”
Upseated, you say?
They've had the luggage racks removed, 3 tip up seats fitted and all signs of their previous Glasgow life removed or covered over. The base livery colours do match that of the Cymru Clipper.
42888 is gone and 2 of the other 3 are not in the best condition.
TheGrandWazoo
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Found a pair on Flickr. Reference to the X3/11 on there too and the colours look right.
I suspected that they would be upseated as luggage racks are a bit of a luxury when seats are generally more necessary. The Somerset ones were an exception because of the large number of luggage wielding tourists for Butlins at
Appreciate that Glasgow has its LEZ challenge and might have wanted to retain them but it’s probably the nearest First Cymru will get!
TBH I would rather have one of they darts over a lot of the rest.
overthewater
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Are First Glasgow consulte over the planned changes like Aberdeen and Midland?
Highly doubt it tbh. Think Simplicity was the last time
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67100 and 67096 repainted but still have old airport seats in at caledonia both are 16 plates
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Jordan Adam
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Indeed, it was only 67101/2/5 i was referring to having the modifications.
JumpinTrainz
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The airport E200MMCs were short lived but glad they’ll be put to good use down in Wales.
The E400City looks the part however thundering down the M8. Really like that design. I hope First consider ordering more for some of their other routes.
The E400City looks the part however thundering down the M8. Really like that design. I hope First consider ordering more for some of their other routes.
TheGrandWazoo
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Cheers chaps. Here's the ones in Swansea https://www.flickr.com/photos/joshs-bus-pics/48607937636/in/dateposted/
Suspect the ones still in Caley are to be altered before heading south
TheGrandWazoo
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Indeed they will. First Cymru got a good chunk of new fleet in 2013/4 but not much since. Instead having to rely on cascades incl some ex Lanarkshire deckers
Go to all that time and trouble to paint a bus but they can't be bothered to even attempt to give the wheels a clean. Useless.
Jordan Adam
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Given that the vehicles are unfinished it could still be yet to be done.
TheGrandWazoo
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Not much point doing it before sending them on a 400 mile journey south. Will probably get done when they apply the vinyls in Ravenhill.
I know it sounds like a non-issue and a bit pointless but to me it just smacks of Firsts usual half a job way of doing things. I doubt they will be painted/replaced down south to be honest and Caley could have quite easily sorted them there. A 400 mile trip isn't going to leave freshly painted wheels looking like they've came off an Avondale bus.
Jordan Adam
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In all fairness the Aberdeen repaints have been returning with old dirty wheels and been getting them tidied up and painted here. I assume it'll be the same with these.
TheGrandWazoo
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If they don’t do it at Swansea, then fair enough but they have done it on the refurbished B9s.
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I certainly like those alloys found on Glasgow 400Citys, just a pity there not kept clean or polished occasionally.
Gingerbus1991
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Yes it is, the 400 City design was initially put together to compete with the borisbus and its variations.
No these buses get used all over and are not confined to the 2. No more new buses this year apart from the two electric ones anyway.
Yeah I knew they weren't confined just found it very different that I've now seen them on quite a few different services within the last week. 5,6,7,57A,61 etc
Been let loose of the 2 , seen one a 4 .
Think they've let everything loose on anything tbh. Only a small number of services seem to have the same buses constantly
JumpinTrainz
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Even the 2 has had B7RLEs and B7TLs on it today. Weird seeing a decker on the 2 it’s been so long.
The B7TLs are bad.... really tired inside and that horrible fan noise does nothing for them.
There was an E400 (33906) on the 2 a week ago today, it was the same day that 'the one' which starts at Clydebank at 07.52 which is operated by Scotstoun was a Caetano bodied Dart.