First Class on Angry-Country to Birmingham

[Oracle]

I have got to got to Birmingham International 16-17 from Southampton. For £120 with my disabled R/C I can go First Class as against say £60 Standard. In First with Cross-Country do you get any catering in theory please? For double the money I would hope that I would actually get a seat from Brum in the evening ... last tme I did the trip the 1715 from Brum International to Bournemouth was like a cattle truck! Only cattle have 'human rights' as do sheep these days.

 

[RJ]

Cattle and sheep have rights because they are forced into what they do. You however, have a physical choice whether you get onto a packed train or not. Are there not reservations available?

 

[Tom B]

I didn't think you could get railcard discounts on FC tickets?

 

[Nym]

You do if you're not young...

Y-Ps are the only ones that don't get discounted FC tickets, Disabled, Old etc. do

I don't think MoD cards do either...

 

[thefab444]

You do if you're not young...

Y-Ps are the only ones that don't get discounted FC tickets, Disabled, Old etc.

If you're normal, that is to say, YPR or FAM you don't, but otherwise you do.

 

[Tom B]

Hmph! It is rather unfair that all other railcards attract a discount, yet YPR doesn't. If it was all railcards but not OAPs, there would be an outcry...

 

[voyagerdude220]

To answer the FC offer question:

On Cross Country Voyagers, you get exactly what VXC used to offer, albeit with different hot drink cups.

The offer is:

A snack box- consisting of a small filled sandwich, with two options to choose from- One Meat/Fish etc, and One Vegetarian option.
Kitkat
Pretzles
Apple slices

For breakfast, you can have a snack box with a hot bacon roll, which are good when not very over cooked, or a cheese and egg roll. These come with a yogurt, and apple slices.

Drinks- Orange Juice, Water, Hot Chocolate, Cola, Tea and Coffee.
Headphones are complimentary on request.

FC on Voyagers is quite good if you've not had to pay a huge quantity more for FC vice SC, especially for people like myself who get used to the reclining seats, quieter carriages, and superior legroom.

 

[me123]

Hmph! It is rather unfair that all other railcards attract a discount, yet YPR doesn't. If it was all railcards but not OAPs, there would be an outcry...

Fair enough with disabled person's railcards; it's as much or a right as holding a parking sticker. But I don't see why Y-P don't qualify and OAPs, for example, do. Most young people are sensible, and the few that aren't must make the difference here. It's a terrible prejudice on us. In my experience, anyway, older people are more likely to cause problems because some take the "respect your elders" motto just a bit too far...

Of course, I also think that anyone intelligent enough to buy a Y-P railcard would be intelligent enough to understand the benefits; most trouble makers probably won't see that when they buy it.

Having said all that, rarely if ever would I even think of using FC (the only exception that comes to mind is a Pendo, and that'd be for the meal service).

 

[voyagerdude220]

Try getting a Value First Advance C/B/A on a Pendolino Primo service....
Go on... You'll have a bit of a challenge on your hands to get one! :razz:

*I won't mention the fact that I blagged myself onto the 17:35 ex Euston 2 Wednesdays ago, and enjoyed the starter, Pork, and cheese and biscuits with my free ticket

I also won't mention that my other two Primo sevices were in the region of £25-£50 for FAS singles ex Euston :razz:

 

[Nym]

MoD doesn't get discount 1st tickets, although it would have been fun to actualy travel on my MoD card, back when I had it.

Anyway, there's no Heathy person's railcard, and the YPR doesn't have the discounts because everyone's institutionaly ageist!

Although VT are the nicest when it comes to RCDs

 

[djw1981]

Fair enough with disabled person's railcards; it's as much or a right as holding a parking sticker. But I don't see why Y-P don't qualify and OAPs, for example, do. Most young people are sensible, and the few that aren't must make the difference here. It's a terrible prejudice on us. In my experience, anyway, older people are more likely to cause problems because some take the "respect your elders" motto just a bit too far...

Of course, I also think that anyone intelligent enough to buy a Y-P railcard would be intelligent enough to understand the benefits; most trouble makers probably won't see that when they buy it.

Having said all that, rarely if ever would I even think of using FC (the only exception that comes to mind is a Pendo, and that'd be for the meal service).

On my recent booking s on both NXEC and VWC from Glasgow, FC AP tickets were cheaper than SC with YPR, due to the quota system, and SC quota's being used up before FC quotas.

 

[Oracle]

You do if you're not young...

Regrettably I'm not now. It was a palaver and a half to get my Disabled card. However when I was a YP, before I could get a Student R/C, there was no such thing as a Y/P Card. It was Child Fare and that was it! Buses we could get a Rover for at Child Rate and there was a Child Twin Rover for the Underground. When I was a student though i used it...£6.20 Open Return I think it was from Feltham to Bristol Parkway via Reading. It was so good that I used to go home at weekends from Bristol and get fed up and have washing done! It was HSTs then and then a slow electric train the Feltham and then bus, on a Friday evening. In reverse on Monday mornings it was Mum's taxi to Feltham, then train to Reading, then wait for 20 minutes, folliwed by a train to Parkway then bus to College and be at desk by 0930! I USED that Student R/C, and it was worth every penny. By the way that was in 1976-77!

 

[paul1609]

HM Forces (mod card) do get discounts on first class.