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I don't agree, you don't think that people would be raising concerns and complaining if a gang of Brits were behaving the same, of course they would IMO.
But they haven't. General anti-social behaviour by British people has been a problem for decades in certain places, but you don't see nationwide protests, riots in some cases, being organised by people who want to stop it.
People just seem to shrug their shoulders at British troublemakers and say "that's life", but do not do the same with migrants.
I'm not reporting things because it's not affecting me, I don't live on the estate. But I am mates with a few people that live there and yes, they have raised their concerns to the police, nothing has been done. I suppose they should just be quiet and put up with things.
What a ridiculous conclusion to make. Why would you suppose they should be quiet and put up with things? What sort of crazy conclusion is that?
They should take the crime references and keep complaining and escalating until the police do more. Go to the local press, the bigger press, and harass the local MP - giving them every crime report.
Plus if you aren't reporting the crimes and don't live there, how do you know your mates are telling 100% the truth? Are you sure they bothered to go the police? So many people rant on Facebook about things and when someone checks, nobody actually did anything as they assumed someone else would.
The more you speak, the more it appears that it is just like the 'they're eating the dogs' nonsense Trump spouted recently and was already mentioned above.
But they haven't. General anti-social behaviour by British people has been a problem for decades in certain places, but you don't see nationwide protests, riots in some cases, being organised by people who want to stop it.
People just seem to shrug their shoulders at British troublemakers and say "that's life", but do not do the same with migrants.
Because their cases clearly haven't been dealt with. I don't see why that makes a difference though, if they have been behaving improperly then this should be addressed, which it hasn't.
Because you don't usually find 20+ males partying at night in a single household, I wouldn't be happy if this was happening outside my house and I don't think you would.
Because you don't usually find 20+ males partying at night in a single household, I wouldn't be happy if this was happening outside my house and I don't think you would.
The solution therefore is to house them properly, and process their claims under the law as speedily as possible, instead of spendthrifting on Britannia Hotels everywhere. That does not seem to be the demand of people who participated in the recent far right protests though.
The solution therefore is to house them properly, and process their claims under the law as speedily as possible, instead of spendthrifting on Britannia Hotels everywhere. That does not seem to be the demand of people who participated in the recent far right protests though.
Because their cases clearly haven't been dealt with. I don't see why that makes a difference though, if they have been behaving improperly then this should be addressed, which it hasn't.
ok - what should be happening? If the police have visited and warned them as to their conduct, as has happened at parties I have been at, would that be appropriate? Alternatively is it that they are in a hotel that is the real issue?
EDIT - i know from personal experience the word on the street will be that nothing is happening because the forigns aren't baton charged, bundled into a van and thrown out of the country. The truth often turns out to be different.
Let me explain a bit. Down the road from me is "the mad house". It is sheltered accommodation for people with substance abuse problems and mental health problems. From time to time there are problems. From time to time the police come upto and including the armed response unit and once the hostage negotiators team. However, any community meeting is full of allegations of all kinds of stuff going on and the authorities doing nothing. The truth is they intervene when they have to. The allegations range from them getting free rent, drugs and booze to sexual misconduct via murder & perhaps satanic rituals!
Most often it is utter rolocks. It will be the same with migrants.
ok - what should be happening? If the police have visited and warned them as to their conduct, as has happened at parties I have been at, would that be appropriate? Alternatively is it that they are in a hotel that is the real issue?
Have I fact checked no, I'm going off locals who are frequently sharing posts in which the asylum seekers are playing their boombox in the early hours. It doesn't appear to have stopped.
Have I fact checked no, I'm going off locals who are frequently sharing posts in which the asylum seekers are playing their boombox in the early hours. It doesn't appear to have stopped.
Well it would be, if it happened. What do they actually want, if not for the people to be treated decently, have their claims processed - accepted or denied, and housed properly?
I'm quite sure that isn't what the protests were about.
Well it would be, if it happened. What do they actually want, if not for the people to be treated decently, have their claims processed - accepted or denied, and housed properly?
I'm quite sure that isn't what the protests were about.
I didn't see any of that to be honest. I saw a lot of racism and hatred though; those people are never going to be welcome and will always be viewed as a threat by some people in our society.
I didn't see any of that to be honest. I saw a lot of racism and hatred though; those people are never going to be welcome and will always be viewed as a threat by some people in our society.
There's a new housing estate close by, the asylum seekers have been out in the car park with their boombox playing throughout the night in to the early hours. Local residents have complained but it continued. After the riot I believe they were moved out.
Have I fact checked no, I'm going off locals who are frequently sharing posts in which the asylum seekers are playing their boombox in the early hours. It doesn't appear to have stopped.
Well that explains your ill-informed posts on this thread then.
Posts on social media are often exaggerated or based on hearsay. How do you know all of the random people on a Facebook group are being completely accurate? Bear in mind plenty of people were sharing misinformation, either on purpose or accidentally, about the perpetrator of that Southport attack - many said he was a Muslim which resulted in thugs targeting a mosque, even though he wasn’t a Muslim. This is why you need to be careful what you read on social media.
I often look on my local residents group on Facebook. There’s so many examples of ill-informed information. For example there was a recent post blaming university students for recent anti-social behaviour. It turned out it had nothing to do with university students, but that was after countless people had their say on how awful students are.
Also recently a neighbour of mine was complaining about someone playing rave music ‘all night’. I sleep badly, so was awake until the early hours. They stopped playing music about midnight, and they didn’t play it ‘all night’. Just another example of exaggeration.
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I have seen it, I assure you. I could share FB posts but don't think that would be wise. The protests were definitely spoiled by brain dead thugs.
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There's a new housing estate close by, the asylum seekers have been out in the car park with their boombox playing throughout the night in to the early hours. Local residents have complained but it continued. After the riot I believe they were moved out.
What does this have to do with them being migrants? Were all the migrants in the hotel taking part in this anti-social behaviour? Or was it just some of them?
Well that explains your ill-informed posts on this thread then.
Posts on social media are often exaggerated or based on hearsay. How do you know all of the random people on a Facebook group are being completely accurate? Bear in mind plenty of people were sharing misinformation, either on purpose or accidentally, about the perpetrator of that Southport attack - many said he was a Muslim which resulted in thugs targeting a mosque, even though he wasn’t a Muslim. This is why you need to be careful what you read on social media.
I often look on my local residents group on Facebook. There’s so many examples of ill-informed information. For example there was a recent post blaming university students for recent anti-social behaviour. It turned out it had nothing to do with university students, but that was after countless people had their say on how awful students are.
Also recently a neighbour of mine was complaining about someone playing rave music ‘all night’. I sleep badly, so was awake until the early hours. They stopped playing music about midnight, and they didn’t play it ‘all night’. Just another example of exaggeration.
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What does this have to do with them being migrants? Were all the migrants in the hotel taking part in this anti-social behaviour? Or was it just some of them?
I also have mates who post things on Facebook. I don’t always fully believe the things they post.
Again, what does this behaviour have to do with them being migrants, rather than just annoying people? Why would a group of people playing loud music at anti-social hours justify protests about all migrants?
I also have mates who post things on Facebook. I don’t always fully believe the things they post.
Again, what does this behaviour have to do with them being migrants, rather than just annoying people? Why would a group of people playing loud music at anti-social hours justify protests about all migrants?
Please read my comments a bit more carefully. I haven’t said it couldn’t possibly have happened - but a video of loud music still doesn’t prove all the migrants are involved, or how long it was going on for.
Maybe look back to my post where I compare it to a few problem families on an estate. If a few families are causing problems, does that mean everyone on that estate is causing the problem and need to be ‘gone’?
Please read my comments a bit more carefully. I haven’t said it couldn’t possibly have happened - but a video of loud music still doesn’t prove all the migrants are involved, or how long it was going on for.
Well, you certainly implied it has.
Maybe look back to my post where I compare it to a few problem families on an estate. If a few families are causing problems, does that mean everyone on that estate is causing the problem and need to be ‘gone’?
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