I don't think it would have been written without checking with the DfT.
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East-West Rail (EWR): Consultation updates [not speculation]
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I don't think it would have been written without checking with the DfT.
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Andyjs247
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There will be a Public Inquiry as objectors have been notified; I don’t know the precise date other than Q1/2019.
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so at which point do you say....tough.
deadline was know for ages, plenty of opportunity to submit greviance,
I see no such leaway for extensions in filling in tax returns!
Bit of a change when I went that way earlier today - buffer stop near the Jarvis Lane crossing is now back, and the track has been lifted from there to Charbridge Lane. Track remains on the Launton side of Charbridge Lane.
Charbridge Lane crossing looking towards Launton
Charbridge Lane crossing looking towards Jarvis Lane and Bicester Village
Jarvis Lane crossing looking towards Charbridge Lane crossing and Launton
Jarvis Lane crossing looking towards Bicester Village
Also, not sure that compound by the Launton roundabout is railway related - there's what appears to be electrical installation work going on in Charbridge Lane coming from the general direction of the new substation on Skimmingdish Lane, and the pipes stacked in that field looked similar to what was being installed.
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eastdyke
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The Winslow Town Council is reporting the start date of the Public Inquiry to be Wednesday 6th February 2019.
Assume this to be the Inquiry proper rather than the pre-inquiry meeting?
In which case I was wrong about the Inquiry timetable dates given a few posts back not being met
https://www.winslowtowncouncil.gov.uk/east-west-rail-announcement-of-public-inquiry-details/
Assume this to be the Inquiry proper rather than the pre-inquiry meeting?
In which case I was wrong about the Inquiry timetable dates given a few posts back not being met
gordonthemoron
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The Winslow Town Council is reporting the start date of the Public Inquiry to be Wednesday 6th February 2019.
https://www.winslowtowncouncil.gov.uk/east-west-rail-announcement-of-public-inquiry-details/
Assume this to be the Inquiry proper rather than the pre-inquiry meeting?
In which case I was wrong about the Inquiry timetable dates given a few posts back not being met
very handy for people who need to go to work (and, in my case, support the project) not
Why is a Public inquiry needed for this stretch. I thought it was just upgrading a stretch that is closed but still with Network Rail.The Winslow Town Council is reporting the start date of the Public Inquiry to be Wednesday 6th February 2019.
https://www.winslowtowncouncil.gov.uk/east-west-rail-announcement-of-public-inquiry-details/
Assume this to be the Inquiry proper rather than the pre-inquiry meeting?
In which case I was wrong about the Inquiry timetable dates given a few posts back not being met
swt_passenger
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Basically to allow closure of numerous level crossings by diverting and combining necessary roads and footpaths. Similar to what they did with Oxford to Bicester - also an operational railway prior to the project.
eastdyke
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As said by @swt_passenger many bits of the proposal require work outside what is operational rail land. Nonetheless had there been no objections, or the objections had been such that negotiation would have led to the objections being withdrawn, then there would not have been an Inquiry.
I am surprised that there is nothing yet about the Inquiry on the EastWestRail website.
Perhaps they don't see interaction with 'The Public' as a priority?
I suppose you could say the purpose of the inquiry is to consider objections that were submitted during the objection period, and those objectors will already have been notified of the date and place.
Ah, got it. Thank you.
eastdyke
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Sure, as part of the formal process handled by the TWA Orders Unit (or their agents) on behalf of the Secretary of State.
The TWAO Application was submitted by Network Rail on behalf of East West Rail Alliance who will build the western section. This is apart from East West Rail Company Ltd. who are supposedly charged with running the railway when complete (separately from NR!).
EastWestRail Consortium, the Local Authorities, Business Groups etc. is the public facing driver of the project. There is nothing in the News Section of their website since 11th September when they submitted their letter of support for the TWAO (well they would wouldn't they!).
https://www.eastwestrail.org.uk/
Just surprised that they are not more outgoing with information thats all.
DarloRich
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It is the crossing closures and the impact on the villages that Is the concern
The backers of CamBedRailRoad have written a lettter to EWR...
http://www.royston-crow.co.uk/news/cbrr-letter-to-ewr-boss-1-5771489
http://www.royston-crow.co.uk/news/cbrr-letter-to-ewr-boss-1-5771489
eastdyke
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Until we have an indication of where the real housing growth is going to be how can they know?
And who are these communuters? Clearly not as important as great crestednuters
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Until we have an indication of where the real housing growth is going to be how can they know?
And who are these communuters? Clearly not as important as great crestednuters
There is already a big housing development at Cambourne and with a new town coming at Northstowe so the CamBedRailRoad route with a northern approach to Cambridge does make a lot of sense, especially if it could be planned alongside the Oxford to Cambridge Expressway corridor.
However, what I don't quite understand is how much support for CBRR is coming from people along the proposed route or whether it is a Nimbyist plan from those around Sandy who don't want the line near them.
This bit of railway will get built once the funding is in place. Government don't want to pay, so the plan at the moment is to take a cut from house builders. Picking a route that goes past settlements which already exist, or where planning permission has already been given for new houses, but teans there is less cash to build it. Once the line is built, then it might be more profitable
DarloRich
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We need both rail AND road improvements in the corridor. it isnt one or the other.
Yet this blinkered Government can find £30billion to pay for roads despite choking us to death with air pollution!
It has been proved that building more roads doesn't relieve traffic congestion. When will they learn?
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Why, after the IPCC report on climate change was so damning of road traffic pollution?
I think the A428 (between A1 and M11 at least) is to be upgraded to “Expressway” standard as part of the Oxford-Cambridge Expressway project. No idea on timing of the upgrade for that section, but I would be surprised if it isn't done before the railway, whichever route that takes. A421 between M1 and A1 (including going past Bedford) has already been done, but the rest of the route still in planning stages … now, as for the Western part of the Expressway, between the M1 and somewhere near Oxford, ………
My understanding is a through service via Aylesbury has now been de-scoped - so passengers will now have to change trains at Aylesbury on the MK-Aylesbury-High Wycombe-Marylebone route. I am assuming this means Chiltern won't be getting as far as MK and East-West will be a standalone franchise to start with ( Oxford-MK, Oxford-Bedford , Aylesbury - MK )
swt_passenger
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Already discussed more recently. You’re quoting a post from over 4 years ago, I think it was correct at that time...
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It has not been proved that building roads doesn't relieve traffic congestion. I know several towns which once were gridlocked but which now have no traffic because a bypass has been built. Buckden, for example, used to have the A1 running though it. Now, you can stroll down the middle of the road to look at the Bishop's Palace.
A cop out again with railways. Why is it always railways and never roads descoped.
This was an obvious extension. When will the passengers interests be put first?
No it hasn't relieved it, it has just moved it to elsewhere.
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Yes, on to that free flowing bypass.
Which will become less of an issue with the move to electric, hybrid and ulltra-low emission vehicles.
if we are going to upgrade links in the Ox-Cam arc then it makes sense to integrate road, rail and housing planning a much as possible into a joined-up policy. I thought that's what the National Infrastructure Commission was supposed to be there for.
Mordac
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Which benefited everyone living in the town by relieving it of trafic gridlock, including the associated pollution you were so concerned with earlier.
Short memory there - a whole swathe of road improvements were put on hold by John Prescott in 1997 when he canned the roads programme which damned a number of towns and villages to excessive traffic for 20 years as their long-awaited by-passes got deferred indefinitely.
To pretend that the road network has seen continued funding is disingenuous.....
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